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09-04-2005 @ 5:21 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm Ayyub Haqikah bint Khaalid (The Bronx, NY )
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Assalaamu alaykum,

My husband works in Manhattan, but we live in The Bronx. Is traveling to Manhattan from The Bronx considered traveling? We are confused, because we understand that going to New Jersey is considered traveling. New Jersey is across the Hudson river, which is close to the distance between The Bronx and Manhattan. I'm asking for the sake of salatul Jumuah.

Barakallahu Feekum

Umm Ayyub Haqikah bint Khaalid

09-08-2005 @ 12:07 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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This may not be a direct answer to your question, however, it should be useful insha Allaah, I came across this on

The Distance by Which a Traveller may Shorten his Prayers


What is the distance by which a traveller may shorten his prayers? Is combining them permissible rather than shortening them?  


The distance by which the prayers are shortened; some scholars specified it to be around 83 kilometers. Other scholars specified it to be whatever is customarily considered traveling, even if he (the traveler) did not go beyond 80 kilometers. And whatever the people consider not to be traveling, then it is not traveling even if it reached 100 kilometers.
This last (opinion) is the opinion of Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (ıııı ıııı) and that is because Allaah did not define a specific distance by which shortening the prayers is allowed nor did the Prophet (ııı ıııı ıııı ıııı) specify an exact distance.

Anas ibn Maalik (ııı ıııı ııı) said:

ıThe Prophet (ııı ıııı ıııı ıııı); whenever he went out for 3 miles or Faraasikh (a measurement of length) then he used to shorten the prayer and pray two Rakıaats.ı [1]

The statement of Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah is closer to what is correct. There is also no hardship, whenever there is a difference in what is customarily considered traveling, if the person acts according to the statement of the specific, defined distance because some of the Imaams and scholars sincerely striving towards a verdict (Mujtahideen) have said it. So there is no problem, In shaa Allaah. As long as the issue is left undefined, then acting in accordance to what is customarily considered travel is the correct opinion.

As for (the question), ıIs combining (the prayers) permissible when shortening is allowed?ı Then we say, ıCombining (the prayers) is not associated with shortening. Rather, combining is associated with a need.ı So whenever the person needs to combine whether he is traveling or not, then let him combine. For this, the people combine because of rain, which due to it; it would be a hardship to return to the masaajid. Also, the people combine if there is harsh, cold wind during the days of winter, which due to it, it would be a hardship to go out to the masaajid. He combines if he fears losing his wealth or any harm in it, or whatever is similar to that - the person combines (his prayers). It is reported in Saheeh Muslim from ıAbdullaah ibn ıAbbaas (ııı ıııı ııııı) that he said:

ıThe Prophet (ııı ıııı ıııı ıııı) combined between Dhuhr and ıAsr, and between Maghrib and Ishaa not due to any fear nor rain.ı [2]

They asked, ıWhy did he do this?ı He said that he did so in order not to cause any hardship upon his Ummah. Meaning, he did not want to place any hardship that would make one leave the congregation.

This is the condition - whenever the person finds a hardship which would lead him to leave off the congregation, then it is permissible for him to combine. If there is no hardship upon him, then he doesnıt combine. However, traveling is most likely to place a hardship which would lead to leaving the congregation. If this is so, then it is permissible for the traveler to combine whether he was in the middle of his journey or has stopped to reside (at his destination). If he is in the middle of his journey, then combining is preferable and if he has stopped traveling (reached his destination) then not combining is preferable.

The exception to this is when a person is residing (reached a destination) in a land where the congregation is established, then it is obligatory to attend the congregation. In that case, he would not combine nor shorten (his prayers). However, if he missed the congregation, then he shortens and does not combine, unless he needs to combine (for some reason).

[1] Reported by Muslim, The Book of The Travelerıs Prayer, Chapter: The Prayer of the Traveler, no. 691.
[2] Reported by Muslim, The Book of The Travelerıs Prayer, Chapter: Combining Between Two Prayers While Residing, no. 705.

Abu Maryam Taariq bin 'Ali

ı ıı ııı ııı ıı ıııı ıııı ııııı ıııııı ııııı ı ııııı ıııı , ıı ııı ıııı ııı ııı ıııııııı, ııı ıııı ııııı ıı ıııı ııı ııı. ııııııı ııııııı ٤/۱٤٩

11-23-2010 @ 7:27 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Damilola Sadiq ibn Owodunni (Lagos, Nigeria || Eastern Province, KSA)
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wa 'alaikumussalaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh,

The Fatwa posted above by brother Abu Maryam (جزاه الله خيرا) is by the Noble Shaykh 'Uthaymeen رحمه الله. A more complete reference is available here and [url=]here[/url]

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