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الحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله

All Praise to Allaah, the All-Mighty, the Dominator, for guiding us to the Salafee manhaj and keeping us away from the innovations and shirkiyyat of the devious, demented warriors of Satan and the gates of Hell to which they all call, as the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) stated.

And from the most evil of these callers to the gates of Hell from whom we seek the protection of Allaah is Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh - a sect, which, in the name of da?wah, has spread colossal levels of shirk and zandaqah throughout the world, specifically in lands of kufr, where knowledge and Salafiyyah is scarce, and the refuge is with Allaah. And indeed, the ?Ulamaa? have made it clear that such deviants are more harmful and more devastating upon the Ummah than the kuffaar themselves. Furthermore, due to the aid of Ikhwaan ul-Mufliseen (the other major sect of the 14th-15th centuries) and their destruction of the principles of walaa? and baraa? and refutation and criticism, innovators like the Tableegh have been allowed to spread with little resistance. Yet, as the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) stated, there will always remain a group apparent upon the truth which will not be affected by those who oppose them nor befriend them ? and this group is the Salafiyyoon, Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa?ah.

And from the traits of Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa?ah is that they perform jihaad upon the innovators and heretics within the Ummah before the kuffaar outside of it. And this jihaad is a jihaad of proofs and knowledge-based refutations, not a jihaad of the sword. Ibn Qayyim stated in the prologue of his mighty Nooniyyah:
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والجهاد بالحجة واللسان مقدم على الجهاد بالسيف والسنان

And the jihaad with the proofs and tongue comes before the jihaad with the sword and spear?
And the Salafee ?Ulamaa? of this era, such as the likes of Muhammad Aal ash-Shaykh, Shaykh Ibn Baaz, Shaykh al-Albaanee, Shaykh Ibn ?Uthaymeen, Shaykh al-Fawzaan, Shaykh Rabee?, Shaykh Hammood at-Tuwayjiree, Shaykh al-?Abbaad, Shaykh Hammaad al-Ansaaree, and others, have been at the forefront of this battle between tawheed and shirk, sunnah and bida?. That said, my intention, and may Allaah accept that from me, is to make this thread a weapon for the English-speaking Salafiyyoon to use against this heretical cult in carrying out this jihaad. In due time, in shaa? Allaah, I will add links to other material found on this forum as well as translate and post new fataawa and audio from the ?Ulamaa? for benefit. It should become an encyclopedia for information about this heretical cult to which anyone can refer for information.

Also... there was a brilliant lecture delivered by Muhammad al-Haajiree on the Tableegh which I would like to translate and post bit-by-bit. I am still waiting for a short resume or biography about him, although it has been said that he is well-known to the ?Ulamaa?, like Shaykh Rabee? al-Madkhalee. May Allaah preserve them all.

Lastly, anyone is free to assist in this endeavor, and praise be to Allaah, the Lord of All the Worlds.

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Imaam Muhammad Bin Saalih al-?Uthaymeen (d. 1421) Declares Tableegh and Ikhwaan to be Innovators

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?forum=16&topic=2489

Some of the fitnah-makers from Tableegh used to use some speech of the Shaykh in their defense. The above narration, however, essentially slams the door in their lying, sinning faces, wal-Hamdulillaah.

And the point is moot anyway, since dozens of refutations have come down upon Tableegh and Ikhwaan from those who are more familiar with them and their ways. And this is an old trick used by the people of dalaal, i.e. to take the speech of the ?Ulamaa? who are not aware of their reality and avoid that which has come from those who are more aware and have more expertise in such affairs. The current situation of ash-Shaykh ?Abbaad is an example of how the hearts of the innovators resemble one another, and refuge is with Allaah.

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Shaykh Rabee? ? a Scholarly, Eyewitness Account of the Shirk of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=1907

A clear evidence that the Tableegh are upon open shirk, even at their very headquarters.


The Great Scholar and Expert on the Tableegh, Hammood Bin ?Abdullah at-Tuwayjiree (d. 1413) Exposes the Shirk of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=1907

From the same thread as above.

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The Imaam and Muhaddith Hammaad al-Ansaaree (d. 1418) : Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh are not from Ahl us-Sunnah

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=23&Topic=2443

Another in a long list of names of the major scholars who have declared Tableegh to be a sect from amongst the 72 sects of the fire. He mentions how the Tableegh and Ikhwaan cannot be considered from Ahl us-Sunnah because they are upon ideologies that oppose those of Ahl us-Sunnah. The simplicity of this concept did not prevent al-Ma'ribee (and others before him) from creating confusion and concocting different ways to include such innovators into the fold of Ahl us-Sunnah. Wallaahu ul-Musta'aan.

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A Brief Description of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh by Muftee il-Janoob, Ahmad Bin Yahyaa an-Najmee

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=16&Topic=2075

An illustration of the misguidance and zandaqah associated with this cult's origin.

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The Tableegh Hate Shar?ee Knowledge

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=1978

This post illustrates how the Tableegh flee from knowledge and have no respect for the major Scholars. Both Shaykh Hammad al-Ansaaree and Saalih al-Fawzaan recall how the Tableegh got up and left the masjid as the duroos began.

Also, Shaykh al-Ansaaree's statements indicate the insincerity and corruption of the Tableegh in that they make khurooj to Saudi Arabia (a land clearly not in need of their likes) to make ?da?wah? while their headquarters is located in India ? one of the world?s greatest cesspits of idolatry and zandaqah.

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NEW! - Shaykh Muqbil (d. 1422) Destroys the Tableegh and Exposes Their Being Welcomed by the Kuffaar

Question: What is your statement about Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh and their way of da?wah, and what do you know about them?

Answer: The response: ash-Shaykh Hammood Bin ?Abdullaah at-Tuwayjiree wrote a treatise named ?al-Qawl ul-Baleegh fit-Tahdheer min Jamaa?at it-Tableegh (An Eloquent Statement of Warning Against Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh).? I advise reading this and likewise [what has been written by] the brother Faalih al-Harbee and the brother ash-Sharqaawee, from the residents of Jeddah. And the writings are many in clarifying their aspects of shirk and Soofiyyah, and what they are upon from misguidance. And their da?wah is a dead da?wah, and if it isn?t dead, it wouldn?t have gone to the communist lands during the times of communism[1].

And there came to us a French brother and we said to him: ?Are we able to go to your land for da?wah to Allaah??

He said: ?You are not able [to come and perform da?wah] except if it is in the name of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh, as it is permitted for them.?

And their da?wah, if it was in the time of Abee Jahl, he would not have rejected them. So they call to six practices[2], so their da?wah is founded upon ignorance (jahl). And Allaah Subhaanahu wa Ta?aala says:

 Yusuf (12):108
قُلْ هَـذِهِ سَبِيلِي أَدْعُو إِلَى اللّهِ عَلَى بَصِيرَةٍ أَنَاْ وَمَنِ اتَّبَعَنِي وَسُبْحَانَ اللّهِ وَمَا أَنَاْ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ

Say (O Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam)): "This is my way; I invite unto Allâh (i.e. to the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism) with sure knowledge, I and whosoever follows me (also must invite others to Allâh i.e to the Oneness of Allâh - Islâmic Monotheism) with sure knowledge. And Glorified and Exalted be Allâh (above all that they associate as partners with Him). And I am not of the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh; those who worship others along with Allâh or set up rivals or partners to Allâh)."


And those, the peddlers of alcohol and the average person who doesn?t know a single thing enters amongst them. So their da?wah is a da?wah of ignorance and misguidance. And I do not advise [you] to perform khurooj with them, and how nice would it be if they were prevented [from activity]. Never mind their scheduled times of khurooj, you would go out with them three days, or a month, or three months, and all of these are innovations[3]. And Allaah Subhaanahu wa Ta?aala says:

 At-Taghabun (64):16
فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ مَا اسْتَطَعْتُمْ وَاسْمَعُوا وَأَطِيعُوا وَأَنفِقُوا خَيْرًالِّأَنفُسِكُمْ وَمَن يُوقَ شُحَّ نَفْسِهِ فَأُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ

So keep your duty to Allâh and fear Him as much as you can; listen and obey; and spend in charity, that is better for yourselves. And whosoever is saved from his own covetousness, then they are the successful ones.


So you perform khurooj as per your level of activity and your capability. And I advise [you] to perform khurooj with Ahl us-Sunnah, for indeed, you will benefit by returning to the Qur?aan, memorizing ahaadeeth, warning against shirkiyyaat, or [partaking in] knowledge-based discussions. So we not in need of going khurooj with them.

Source:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

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[1] In other words, they were allowed to travel around and perform da?wah within communist countries without resistance. On a similar note, the Tableegh are known and widespread in the Jewish state - again, they are given no resistance simply because the kuffaar are well aware of their evil effects on the Ummah.
[2] They are the six points of Tableegh, which in shaa? Allaah will be expounded upon later in this thread.
[3] It is actually 3 days per month, 40 days per year, and 4 months per lifetime. Irrespective of the exact numbers, the act of placing specific limits and timetables for khurooj is an innovation for which Allaah has sent down no authority.

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Statements of the Scholars of the Sunnah Regarding Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh - Booklet by Shaykh Rabee' al-Madkhalee

This is an magnificent booklet of fataawa of the Major Scholars about the Tableegh. It was compiled and commented on by Shaykh Rabee? al-Madkhalee. Here is the original Arabic:

http://www.rabee.net/cgi-bin/rd/rd.cgi?id=64

And an English translation:

http://www.fatwa-online.com/downloads/dow003/0010602.zip

And a compact version in Arabic as well:

http://www.sahab.org/books/book.php?id=371

Please print out the compact version, hand it out, and post it everywhere you can ? let it serve as mercury in the bloodstream of this deviant sect?s da?wah. They were (and still are) quick to cite the 17 year-old fatwa of Shaykh Bin Baaz supposedly in their favor[1], yet they run away from his three fataawa as brought by Shaykh Rabee?, two of which were issued only a few years before the Shaykh?s death. So let this serve as a reminder to them that they should repent to Allaah before it is too late, and that they have been exposed by the ?Ulamaa?. While we sincerely desire guidance for them, this does not alleviate the obligation of warning against them and being harsh in doing so, as was the madhhab of the Salaf.

Also of special attention is the fatwa of Shaykh ?Abdur-Razzaaq ?Afeefee (d. 1414), it is short, but full of interesting points ? he was a member of the Lajnah and was known for having a vast knowledge of the deviant sects. One brother on sahab did a nice commentary on this fatwa, perhaps I will adapt it and post it here in due  time, in shaa? Allaah.

The booklet also contains a 40 year-old fatwa from Shaykh Muhammad Bin Ibraaheem Aal ash-Shaykh (d. 1389) in which he made tabdee? of the Tableegh and mentioned how they call to shirk and grave-worship. This fatwa indicates the fact that the deviance of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh is nothing new among the People of Knowledge, and that they have been warned and advised for decades. Thus, the statement that ?they don?t know? or that ?they haven?t been advised? is clearly false and has no basis.

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[1] The reality is otherwise, as will in shaa? Allaah be mentioned later when the lecture of Muhammad al-Haajiree is translated and posted here.

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NEW! - Shaykh ?Abdullaah al-Ghudayyaan, Member of the Council of Senior Scholars and the Lajnah, Warns Against Accompanying Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh

The Questioner asks: We are in a village and there has swarmed upon us something which is called Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh. So should we accompany them or not? We hope for clarification.

So the Shaykh said: Do not accompany them, you should only accompany the Book of Allaah and Sunnah of His Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam).[1]

Source: ?Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh? p. 446 by way of the following thread on sahab:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

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[1] This clearly indicates that the Shaykh does not consider them to be upon the Book and Sunnah.

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NEW! - Imaam Ibn ?Uthaymeen (d. 1421) on the Obligation of Warning Against and Limiting the Deviant Da?wah of Jamaa?at ut-Tablegh

The Shaykh was asked about Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh, so he responded: Likewise it has reached me regarding the leaders of that Jamaa?ah in the Islaamic countries outside of our land that they are upon deviance in ?aqeedah. So if that is true[1], then indeed, what is obligatory is warning from them and limiting their da?wah within our land in the legislated fashion.

Source: ?Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh? p. 435 by way of the following thread on sahab:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

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[1] And it is most definitely true, as has been stated by Shaykh Bin Baaz (and many, many others) and as will be explored later on when statements of kufr and shirk from Muhammad Illiyaas and Yoosuf al-Kandahlawee are posted here, in shaa? Allaah.

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NEW! ? Shaykh Hammood at-Tuwayjiree (d. 1413) Warns From the Tableegh and Affirms the Madhhab of the Salaf in Dealing with the Innovators

The Noble Shaykh said: As for the statement of the questioner, do I advise him to perform khurooj with the Tableegh within the land ? meaning the land of Saudi Arabia ? or outside of it, or not?

So its response is that I say: I advise the questioner and I advise everyone besides him from those who desire safety for their religion from the impurity of shirk, ghuloo[1], bida?, and khuraafaat (heretical superstitions), that they do not join the Tableegh, and that they do not perform khurooj with them ever. And this [ruling] is the same whether it be within the Saudi land or outside of it.

Because the least evil of that which can be said about the Tableegh is that they are people of innovation, misguidance, and ignorance with regards to their ?aqeedah and sulook (i.e. way and characteristics). And whosoever possesses this censured attribute, then no doubt, the safety is in disassociating from them and keeping away from them?

?And indeed, the Salaf us-Saalih used to warn from the people of innovations and go to great lengths in their warning from them. And they used to forbid sitting with them, befriending them, and listening to their speech. And they used to command disassociation from them, and hostility towards them, and hatred of them, and desertion/boycotting (hajr) of them.[2]

Source: ?al-Qawl ul-Baleegh? pp. 30-33 by way of the following thread on sahab:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

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[1] Ghuloo is showing extremism towards people (or places and even ideologies). It, as was explained by the A?imah, is the initial cause for the emergence of shirk amongst the Children of Aadam.
[2] And all of this is much to the chagrin of the Mumayyi?oon. The madhhab of the Salaf is crystal clear regarding dealing with the innovators ? the one who denies this is either (a) ignorant, or (b) diseased and desires to blast open the floodgates between Ahl us-Sunnah and deviant, heretical sects like Tableegh and Ikhwaan.

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NEW! ? Shaykh Saalih al-Luhaydaan, Head Judge of the Ministry of Justice in Saudi Arabia: The Tableegh Are Not From the People of the Correct Manhaj

The Shaykh said: The Ikhwaan and Tableegh are not from the people of the correct manaahij (pl. manhaj), and indeed, all of these groups and denominations have no basis in the Salaf of this Ummah.

Source:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=289128

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NEW! ? Shaykh Ubayd Bin 'Abdullaah al-Jaabiree Q&A on Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh (with Sound)

This is an excellent and highly recommended recorded question and answer session conducted by one of the Major Scholars, The Noble Shaykh ?Ubayd Bin ?Abdullaah al-Jaabiree. The original Arabic audio is here and a recorded English translation [url=http://www.troid.org/audio/manhaj/innovation/jamaaatuttableegh/questions.htm]is here[/url].

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Shaykh Saalih Bin Fawzaan al-Fawzaan on the Obligation of Warning From Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=2293

The Shaykh mentions how going out on khurooj with the Tableegh in order to advice them is a worthless deed ? rather, they do not accept the truth and only desire adherence to their misguided madhhab. And this is truth, for over 80 years have passed and this cult has yet to show any sign of turning towards the truth in any single matter, whether fundamental or subsidiary.

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Shaykh Saalih Bin Fawzaan al-Fawzaan Makes Tabdee? of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh and Forbids Accompanying Them (with Sound)

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=1896

A quick and decisive fatwa by Shaykh al-Fawzaan in which he declares the Tableegh ? all of them ? to be innovators and forbids going khurooj with them. This is followed by another fatwa in which he declares their khurooj an innovation and subsequently states that one should not accompany them ever, even if he is knowledgeable and desires to correct them. He also mentions them as being from the heretical Indian Deoband school of Soofee thought.

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NEW! ? Shaykh ?Abdul-?Azeez ar-Raajihee, From the Scholars of Riyaadh, Explains and Warns Against the Innovated, Soofee Da?wah of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh

Questioner: The questions regarding Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh have increased?

Shaykh ar-Raajihee: We say: It is known that Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh are Soofiyyah, and we do not advise performing khurooj with them, because they do not call to tawheed, do not enjoin the good, and do not forbid the evil. And they enjoin the khurooj, [saying] ?Perform khurooj, perform khurooj.? And they make it obligatory on the people to perform khurooj for 40 per year, 40 days, and likewise 2 days per week twice[1], and in every month, 3 days. And all of this has no proof. [They say] ?Perform khurooj, perform khurooj,? they call it in the path of Allaah, yet they only care about adhkaar (remembrance of Allaah). And likewise they make some of the general folk give advice and perform da?wah, yet they have no knowledge, they have no knowledge.

So we advise the youth with attending the knowledge-based lessons and seeking knowledge, and not performing khurooj. And if a person wishes to call, then after that, if he is qualified,  then he can call to Allaah. As for him performing khurooj while he is an ignoramus with no understanding, [then this is not permissible]. Some of the senior Shaykhs that they make speak ? senior Shaykhs that don?t know a single thing, he doesn?t read, and perhaps he doesn?t know and doesn?t write ? they make him speak in the masjid, he gives advice. And some of them are a group small youths who haven?t studied and haven?t learned.

And it is like this - Jamaa?at ut-Taleegh, if you were to enjoin tawheed [in their presence], then there is no way would that they would leave you alone. He will say, ?Don?t call to tawheed, and don?t enjoin [the good], and don?t forbid the evil, call to such-and-such, and nobody should speak about this.? The intention [in da?wah] is to advise the students with embarking on seeking knowledge, and learning, and gaining understanding, and gaining insight. Then, after that, [he can perform] da?wah to Allaah.

Source:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

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[1] They perform a ?local khurooj? twice per week on two different days. These are usually done on Wednesday and Saturday after the ?Asr or Maghrib salaah.

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NEW! - Shaykh Saalih Bin Fawzaan al-Fawzaan on How and Why the Tableegh Reject the Da?wah to Tawheed (with Sound)

Questioner: Noble Shaykh, the reality is not that they (i.e. Jamaa'at ut-Tableegh)? they reject the da?wah to tawheed. And thus, if some students of knowledge go out with them and wish to, for example, speak and clarify ?aqeedah, and tawheed, and the types of shirk, they shun him and become angry with him. So what is your opinion about this? Nay, even if he was to clarify some of the confirmed sunan from the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) in some of the affairs, they reject this.

Shaykh al-Fawzaan: I have witnessed this myself. I conducted a lecture on tawheed in some of the masaajid in Riyaadh, and they (the Tableegh) were gathered in the masjid, so they went out of the masjid [upon hearing the lecture]. And others like me as well ? some of the Scholars gave a lecture in this masjid on tawheed, so they went out of the masjid. Because they were coming into it, so when they heard the da?wah to tawheed, they went out of the masjid, along with [the fact that] they were [originally] calling for a gathering in the masjid. Yet, when they heard tawheed, they went out of the masjid.

As for them not accepting the da?wah to tawheed ? yes ? and that is not specific to them. Everyone who traverses upon a mapped out manhaj does not accept abandonment of it.

If they had fallen into this matter (i.e. their misguidance) due to ignorance, then they might possibly return to the right way. But they fell into this matter by a design, by a manhaj upon which they have traversed for a long time, which has been mapped out for them. So there is no way that they would retract from their manhaj, because if they retracted from their manhaj, then their Jamaa?ah would unravel, their Jamaa?ah would unravel, and they do not desire this.[1]

And the most recent book which has been written and has gathered in it their statements, and the criticisms against them, and those who used to befriend them then exited them and left them, the most recent book regarding this is the complete and comprehensive book, the book of Shaykh Hammood Bin ?Abdullaah at-Tuwayjiree[2], may Allaah have mercy on him. For indeed, it is a book which has not left out anything with regards to this topic. This is because it is a recent book in which everything which has been said from before has been compiled, and authentic information regarding them has been compiled.

So there has never remained any confusion [about the Tableegh]. Yet the fitnah, and the refuge is with Allaah, if it emerges, it blinds the visions. The fitnah blinds the visions.

And if not, then how can a human being who has lived upon tawheed, and studied tawheed, and came to know the ?aqeedah of tawheed, how could he be deceived by those?!? How could he perform khurooj with them? How could call to them? How could he defend them? Is this not from misguidance after guidance, and replacing that which is superior with that which is inferior? We ask Allaah for good health and security.

Questioner: What is your advice to your brothers from the general folk, those who do not know their (i.e. the Tableegh?s) objectives ? even the women now perform khurooj to Pakistan?

Shaykh al-Fawzaan: My advice to my brothers from the general folk and other than the general folk is that they do not befriend them. And if they desire good, then it is present, praise to Allaah, in their land. If they desire knowledge, then the Scholars are present. If they desire worship, then the masaajid and houses are open for worship. If they desire anything from the affairs of the Religion, then it is available, and the praise is to Allaah.

Source:
There original audio is available here (played as you enter the website) and a transcript is available [url=http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382]here[/url]. The transcript has been published in the book ?Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh? pp. 445-446.

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[1] Read and reflect over the previous two paragraphs, for there is much wisdom to be found in them. The Shaykh has basically stated what the Salafiyyoon have been saying for quite some time already ? that nobody adopts a manhaj other than the Salafee manhaj except that it is due to him having some mapped-out manhaj designed for specific objectives. This also explains why people like Salmaan al-?Awdah do not repent and retract from their errors even after being refuted and humiliated by the ?Ulamaa? ? they have specific objectives which they desire to achieve, and if they were to retract, their innovated methodologies (and thus desired objectives) would unravel.
[2] He is referring to the book entitled "al-Qawl ul-Baleegh fit-Tahdheer min Jamaa'at it-Tableegh." In shaa' Allaah, more excepts from this great book will be added to this thread eventually, including some stories of those who used to go with the Tableegh and later abandoned them after having discovered their reality.

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NEW! - The Imaam and Muhaddith, Shaykh ?Abdul-Muhsin al-?Abbaad al-Badar on the Innovated Tableeghee Manhaj and the Innovator Who Founded Them

The Shaykh said: As for Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh, then first of all, they have abominable affairs and it is an innovated manhaj. And it emerged from Delhi, it did not emerge from Makkah and nor Madeenah, rather, its origin and source is Delhi in India.

And India, as is well-known, is full of khuraafaat (heretical superstitions) and full of bida?, even if there may be many from Ahl us-Sunnah and those who are upon the Sunnah and the correct way, like Jamaa?at Ahl ul-Hadeeth, who are amongst the best of people in that land?

?And their founder[1] (i.e. of the Tableegh) is from the people of innovation and from the people of the Soofee orders and from the deviants in ?aqeedah, so it (the Tableegh) is an innovation and heresy.

In those lands, it (Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh) is found to be relying upon these affairs which have been placed down by their founder for this order.[2] And in their ?aqeedah they are deviants, and in their order as well they have amongst them the Soofiyyah, and amongst them are the Ashaa?irah ? those who are are not upon the manhaj of Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa?ah, neither in ?aqeedah, nor in sulook (i.e. way and characteristics).

Source: ?Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh? pp. 448-449 by way of the following thread on sahab:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

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[1] He is Muhammad Illiyaas al-Kandahlawee, whose bida', shirkiyyaat, and khuraafaat will be discussed later, in shaa' Allaah.
[2] Meaning that the innovations laid down by Illiyaas are the source of "guidance" upon which they firmly place their reliance, and the refuge is with Allaah.

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NEW! ? Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin al-?Abbaad on the Newly-Arisen, Innovated Sects Like Tableegh and Ikhwaan and Their Having Tremendous Errors

Questioner: O Honorable Shaykh, there are newly-arisen groups like the Ikhwaan and the Tableegh and other than them. So are these groups from Ahl us-Sunnah and what is you advice regarding this topic?

Shaykh ?Abdul-Muhsin: These various, newly-arisen sects, first of all, are heresies whose birth was in the fourteenth century. And before the fourteenth century, they were not in existence and nor were they born ? they were in the world of the dead.

As for the upright manhaj and the straight path, then its birth and origin is the sending of the Noble Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) ? whatever the Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) and his companions were upon when he was sent (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam). So whosoever emulates this truth and guidance, then he is the one who has attained safety and has been saved. And whosoever diverges from this, then he is a deviant.

These sects or these groups, it is known that they have correctness and they have errors. But their errors are large and tremendous, so they are to be warned from. And [one should] be persistent in following the Jamaa?ah which is Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa?ah, and they are those upon the manhaj of the Salaf of this Ummah, and those whose reliance is upon what came from Allaah and from His Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam). And their reliance is not upon what came from so-and-so and so-and-so, nor is it upon the orders and manaahij which were innovated in the fourteenth century upon this manhaj and upon this well-known way.

Source: ?Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh? pp. 448-449 by way of the following thread on sahab:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290382

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Please be patient, as there is in shaa' Allaah much, much more to come. I am still awaiting a short biography or tazkiyah for Muhammad al-Haajiree before I start adding material from his lecture on the Tableegh. Also, I plan to add the stories of those who once went with the Tableegh and later left them after having known their realities. So please bear with me as I prepare new material for this thread.

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