SalafiTalk.Net
SalafiTalk.Net » Affairs of Manhaj
» The Story of Shaykh Rabee? and Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh, the Heretical Sect of India
Search ===>




Part 1Part 2Part 3Part 4Part 5Part 6Part 7Part 8Part 9 • Part 10 • Part 11 • Part 12


   Reply to this Discussion Start new discussion << previous || next >> 
Posted By Topic: The Story of Shaykh Rabee? and Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh, the Heretical Sect of India

book mark this topic Printer-friendly Version  send this discussion to a friend  new posts last

abu.abdul.azeez
07-06-2003 @ 1:05 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Member
Posts: 216
Joined: Feb 2003
          
الحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله

Shaykh Rabee? was asked about Jamaa?ah ut-Tableegh, so he said:

I have never gone with this Jamaa?ah, but indeed, I went for work, then, like, to Kashmir. And I became vacated from this work, and I passed through Delhi, so it was said to me: ?Let us go to such and such place to visit the da?wah center of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh, and to, like, Nidhaam ud-Deen.?

Nidhaam ud-Deen, this is a masjid nearby the da?wah center of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh, and inside of it are five graves, atop which are domes, which are worshipped alongside of Allaah, a clear worship, no dust on it (i.e. a figurative expression meaning that it is plain for everyone to see).

Then we went out to the masjid of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh, and it was being said, like, the people were disagreeing with each other as to whether there were graves in it or there weren?t graves in it.

So ?Abdur-Rubb asked, this one whom I have mentioned, he asked a number of them: ?Is there in this masjid ? the masjid of Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh ? a grave or some graves??

The clever ones [amongst them] said: ?No, there are no graves in it. The grave of Illiyaas [1] is buried in Makkah,? or such-and-such place, some far away place.

So he continued to ask until an individual guided him or informed him that the grave of Illiyaas was in the masjid, and next to it, the grave of his wife.

Then he came with the brother ?Abdur-Rubb to the two graves and stood over them. Then after he made sure [that these were the graves], he came back and said: ?Come, I will show you these two graves.?

So we looked, and so he said: ?This is the grave of Illiyaas, and this is the grave of his wife, and they are inside of the masjid.?

Then after that, we verified that there were four graves in this masjid, not two. We verified [this fact] from some trustworthy people who accompanied Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh for years and knew this true state of affairs? [End of Shaykh's words]

From the book Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh (p. 450). The actual audio is also available here:

http://www.sahab.fm/index.php?action=file&id=6

Also refer to this thread on sahab:

http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&postid=326865

[1] He is Muhammad Illiyaas, the heretical Deobandee who founded Jamaa?at ut-Tableegh in the 1920s, may Allaah give him what he deserves. For further information on him and his evil sect, one should refer to the book ?al-Qawl ul-Baleegh fit-Tahdheer min Jamaa?at it-Tableegh? of the Noble Shaykh Hamood Bin ?Abdullaah at-Tuwayjiree (d. 1413). Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan praised this book, saying that he did not leave out anything with regards to his exposing this deviant sect.

------------------------------------------
Abu 'Abdul-'Azeez al-Misree
أبو عبد العزيز المصري

This message was edited by abu.abdul.azeez on 6-7-03 @ 6:35 AM

abu.abdul.azeez
11-06-2003 @ 12:15 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Member
Posts: 216
Joined: Feb 2003
          
Perhaps I didn't make this clear, but the link provided for the audio above is indeed correct, despite the fact that it is attributed to Shaykh al-Albaanee.

This is because most of the tape (the entire first side and about half of the second) consists of a one-sided debate between the Shaykh and a member of Jamaa'at ut-Tableegh. The remainder of the second side, however, contains both a revealing discussion between some students of knowledge and Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan and the sound byte of Shaykh Rabee' corresponding to what is translated above. In other words, look for the audio towards the final 1/4th of the second side.

------------------------------------------
Abu 'Abdul-'Azeez al-Misree
أبو عبد العزيز المصري

abu.abdul.azeez
22-09-2003 @ 1:01 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Member
Posts: 216
Joined: Feb 2003
          
The Eminent Shaykh Hamood Bin ?Abdullaah at-Tuwayjiree (d. 1413) on the Qubooriyyah and Shirkiyyaat of Jamaa?at it-Tableegh, may Allaah rid the earth of their evil and misguidance...

The Shaykh said, as quoted from his treatise ?Haqaa?iq ?an Jamaa?at it-Tableegh? (Realities Regarding Jamaa?at it-Tableegh):
quote:
والكثير منهم يعظمون قبور الأولياء والبناء عليها والطواف والنذر لها ولاينكرون هذه الأشياء المنكرة

Many of them (the Tableegh) glorify the graves of the awliyaa? and the structures on top of them, and they make tawaaf around them, and they make vows to them, and they no not reject these rejected (munkarah) things.
He also said:
quote:
وإن قبور رؤسائهم في المسجد! أعني قبر إلياس وقبر ابنه يوسف داخل المسجد وهؤلاء الجماعة ينذرون لهؤلاء المقبورين ويستنصرون بهم في المهمات وعندما ينكر عليهم يقولون في جوابهم لسنا وهابيين

And the graves of their leaders are in the masjid! I mean the grave of Illiyaas and the grave of his son are inside of the masjid. And that Jamaa?ah makes vows to those buried persons and seeks help from them in the important matters. And when this is rejected from them, they say: ?We are not Wahhaabiyeen.?
Look at the shirk and innovation of this evil sect and ask yourself, what should be said about the one who knowingly seeks to include them into Ahl us-Sunnah? Does he do so because of hawaa? Or is because he seeks to, bit by bit, revive the manhaj of Hasan al-Bannaa and melt the barriers between the Saved Sect and the 72 hell-bound sects? And what is to be said about he who defends those whose shirk (as mentioned above by the Noble Shaykh) takes them outside of the Ummah entirely?

In line with what Muhammad Bin Haadee al-Madkhalee has stated, al-Ma?ribee?s attempt to include the likes of this heretical sect into Ahl us-Sunnah is the clearest and most decisive sign of his deviance and plotting against Ahl us-Sunnah. This, keeping in mind the horrendous state of the aforementioned Jamaa?ah, should encourage those still having shubuhaat to immediately repent to Allaah ?Azz wa-Jal and thank their Salafee brothers for clarifying the truth. And Allaah ?Azz wa-Jal knows best.

Refer to the following thread:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=&postid=350052

------------------------------------------
Abu 'Abdil-'Azeez al-Misree
أبو عبد العزيز المصري

This message was edited by abu.abdul.azeez on 9-22-03 @ 1:31 AM






SalafiPublications.Com
TawhidFirst | Aqidah | AboveTheThrone | Asharis
Madkhalis | Takfiris | Maturidis | Dajjaal
Islam Against Extremism | Manhaj
Ibn Taymiyyah | Bidah
Learn Quranic Arabic Online


main page | contact us
Copyright © 2001 - SalafiTalk.Net
Madinah Dates Gold Silver Investments