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Shaik Rabee' bin Haadee al-Madkhalee Defends Shaikh Ubaid And Speaks About the Followers and Defenders of Abul Hasan

This is a transcript of some questions posed to the Shaikh today in a session that was broadcast over Paltalk at around 4.30pm

Question: O Shaikh, what is your view concerning Shaikh Ubaid al-Jaabiree, and is he not a Scholar, but just a student of knowledge?

Shaikh Rabee' bin Haadee al-Madkhalee: By Allaah, the one who reviles him and says that he is jaahil, then he follows the paths of the devils. And he follows the way of Hizbiyyah in reviling the Scholars of the Salafee manhaj. Shaikh Ubaid is from the most excellent of the Scholars of the Salafiyyeen, and he is known for wara' and zuhd (piety and abstemiousness) and for speaking the truth - may Allaah bless you - and no one who (truly) desires the face of Allaah the Blessed and the Most High would revile him.  And we have known these methods to be the ways of the Hizbiyyeen.

Question: Concerning a man who says he is withholding on the issue of Abul-Hasan al-Maribee while he has actually read the refutations of the scholars is he to be warned against and boycotted?

Shaikh Rabee' bin Haadee al-Madkhalee: Give them some respite. Give them some respite till some other days. If they stood by the truth, aided it, and [word unclear] the falsehood and belittled it, then they are your brothers. And if they continue to argue, wallow (in the falsehood), then we never doubt, or hesitate in (holding) that they are Ashaab ul-Ahwaa (people of desires). Henceforth, they are to be boycotted and there is no liberty. However, I ask Allaah that he does not prolong their affair until they show arrogance and stubbornness, and being occupied in falsehood. Returning to the truth is better than wallowing in falsehood, and a believer is one who always returns to Allaah. And a believer is one who constantly repents, and Allaah rejoices with the repentance of His servant, and Allaah loves those who constantly repent and those who purify themselves.

So if he has stood by Abul Hasan until this date, there is no doubt that he is upon falsehood, and if comes and brings these tricks and plots, then he is given respite, for a week, or two, so he either repents [...section cut]... and goes with the Scholars of the Salaf and the Scholars of the Salafee Manhaj, in the truth [that they are upon] and in aid of the truth for which they stood for, then he is from us and is our brother. And the one who refused except but to follow the devil then he is to be boycotted.

And I say to all of those who are listening, I say... let me speak..., I say to all the Salafees, let me speak yaa akhee! I say to all those who are present:

Verily, Abal-Hasan, he is the one who kindled this fitnah, he is the one who planned for this fitnah from a very long time ago, and Allaah made him to speak that he had explained the usool and the afkaar of Shaikh Rabee'... that he explained them in his book "as-Siraaj". But in reality he waged a war against the Salafee Manhaj in [this book] "as-Siraaj", he waged a war against the Salafee manhaj, and at that time, I knew of his plots, but at that time I was gentle with him, and I explained his deviations with good manners and justice, and I sent them to him from myself in secret, based upon the hope that he will return to Allaah, Subhaanahu wa Ta'aalaa,  and that he takes the correct path, and I was like this for years, I did not inform anyone of these deviations which I came across and which I had explained to him. This was all between me and him and I did not inform anyone about it. And I did not show anything to him except the good, and I did not deal with him except with manhood.

However, this man does not thank Allaah, and nor does he express thanks for the good, and he has no rujoolah (manhood) at all. Rather is a lowly worthless man, a man who is armed by the Ahl ul-Ahwaa, and armed by the hizbiyyah organisations, those organisations that have armed him and his likes for the purpose of waging a war against the Salafee Manhaj.

Now, he is the leader, director, of these tribulations, he is the carrier of the flag (of these tribulations) against the Salafee manhaj and its adherents.  And there is nothing more clear than his corrupt laying down of principles, which he began to propound and which no one from the groups of misguidance, and nor any head from the heads of misguidance brought before him. And all of these usool are for the purpose of waging a war against the Salafee manhaj.

And the Scholars have known them and they have explained what they contain of misguidance, and they convicted him and these false princples, after having a long time of patience... however after this (after he was advised), he announced openly that he desires splitting, separation (and not unity). So then he began to implement what he had planned for creating splitting (amongst the Salafees), and he began to spread his poison in the East and the West for this purpose, and in every place, so that he may prevent the Salafees and so that he can extract from them a hizb, and in Allaah is the refuge.

He excels over all the groups, with his evil and with his plots, his lies and his war against the Salafee manhaj. And now, after the scholars have written what they issued in their verdicts and after I wrote about all of these corrupt principles... so after these writings and these clarifications, there is no on left as one who hesitates and wavers (in doubt) after this, except, and refuge is in Allaah, that he has hawaa (following of desire). However, we do not close the path for him, and we say to him, the door for tawbah is open, so repent and return to Allaah Azza wa Jall. It is better for you to return to the Salafee manhaj and stand by your brothers, calling to this manhaj, and that you learn the Islamic sciences regarding it, and the usool of the Salafee manhaj, and that you be amongst the du'aat who go towards Allaah, not du'aat towards Abul Hasan (al-Maribee) or to his corrupt manhaj or to his corrupt principles.

And at this moment in time, every sane person knows of his methods, that right now he defends the Hizbiyyeen, and I say that he is not a hizbee and nor a salafee, but he is man of acquiring benefit. He changes colors for the sake of wealth. And if those people were to abandon him (i.e. those who are equipping him), he would find others who will present wealth to him, and then he would stand by their side, and then defend them.

For by Allaah, I have not seen anyone more evil than those Hizbiyyeen, in these characteristics and from these angles, in lying, in changing colours, "takfeeri", then "salafee", then "hizbee", and so on. And the names are changed in accordance to what brings the wealth. This is a matter well-known, it is known by the Lebanese, the Emiratees, it is known that he is man who gathers wealth and who perishes over it. So the likes of this man sells his deen for a paltry price....

So what exactly do those people desire with this person Abul Hasan and this is his condition?

Shaikh Rabee bin Haadee also said in this session: Abul Hasan has fallen in Yemen. He has fallen, if Allaah wills, in the Emirates... and he is finished in the Mamlakah, and all praise is due to Allaah, he is finished, completely and now he lies, he says "with us is so and so and so and so", and he is a liar. The people have abandoned him. Everyone who had intellect and religion (aql and deen) has abandoned him...

Finally, beware of the falsehood being spread by those who allied with this Innovator. Their falsehood has been exposed and their loyalty for the Innovators and joining the trenches of the Hizbiyyeen has been exposed. And for a short while they carried the arguments and attacks of Abul Hasan al-Maribee against the Salafees, and now after all that has been exposed, they have started shouting that they are people of justice and moderation and balance, as has been pointed out about them on this forum and others like Sahab.Net and AnaSalafi.Net. This is only to hide the falsehood they are upon in their manhaj, and to confuse the ignorant ones. They are the losers and ignorant fools like Abu Usamah ath-Thahabi and those like him who wallow in the falsehood. They are the equivalents of Abul Hasan al-Maribee in the West, they attack the Salafees, speak with the usool of Abul Hasan, and play the same tricks and deceptions in their speech to confuse the Juhhaal. And it is now established from the Scholars that they are to be treated just like we treat the rest of the Innovators.

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أنظروا ماذا فعل الحزبيون في محاضرة الشيخ ربيع في مدينة مانشستر

لقد كان من المقرر أن تقام محاضرة الشيخ ربيع في تمام الساعة الواحدة بعد ظهر اليوم ولكن قام الحزبيون من أعضاء لجنة مركز السنة ومن كان على شاكلتهم بقطع الخطوط ومكبرات الصوت حتى لا تتم المحاضرة ومن الجدير بالذكر أنهم أجتمعوا من أنحاء متفرقة من البلاد , فقد جاء الحزبي البغيض أبو زرعة الشرقاوي من مدينة لوتن وجاء أبو يحي الليبي إمام مركز طيبة وأبو طلحة المصراتي من مدينة ليستر وجاء غيرهم لينصروا الباطل .
وقد تكلم الشيخ ربيع مع أبي زرعة عبر الهاتف فبدأ هذا الجبان يتهرب وسأله الشيخ عن رأيه في أبي الفتن فقال أنه قد تبينت له بعض الأشياء وأشياء أخرى لم تتبين له ولم يقرأها وقد كذب فهو لا يزال يناصر أبا الحسن وقد كتب مقال من أيام في شبكة السقامة بعنوان " إلى شيخنا الصابر المحتسب أبي الحسن " فلم هذا الكذب يا أبا زرعة ولكن الحمد لله قد فضحكم الله .
ثم والحمد لله , تمكنا من الإتصال بالشيخ فقام هؤلاء الحزبيون وخرجوا من المسجد , وهكذا أهل البدع تضيق صدورهم من الحق, ثم قام هؤلاء الحزبيون بإحضار الشرطة لنا حتى يوقفو المحاضرة ولكن الحمد لله عندما جاء الشرطة قلنا لهم أن هذا المحاضر يبين للناس الإسلام الصحيح ويحذرهم من الإرهاب فسمحوا لنا أن نستمر 10 أو 15 دقيقة والحمدلله الذي أخزى هؤلاء الحزبيون وأظهر ما يحملونه من حقد على علماء السلفية وكان مما قاله الشيخ ربيع أن هؤلاء بعملهم هذا يسلكون سبيل الإرهاب . والحمد لله الذي أخزاهم.

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Jazakallahu khair for posting this. Translation below:

The followers of al-Maribee tried to sabotage the lecture today.

This is the above statement of Abu Ishaq al-Athari translated:

The talk was planned for after dhuhr at 1.00pm, however the hizbees of the members of the committee for the Markaz as-Sunnah and whoever is upon their way tried to cut the wires for the microphones and speakers so that the lecture could not take place. And it is worthy to mention that they all gathered from different parts of this land, the Hating Hizbee, Abu Zur'ah as-Sharqaawee came from Luton, and Abu Yahya al-Leebee the Imaam of Markaz Tayyibah, and Abu Talhah al-Misraatee from Leicester came in order to support the falsehood.

And Shaikh Rabee spoke to Abu Zur'ah over the phone and this coward began to flee and become scared (of the questions put to him). Shaikh Rabee asked him about his view on Abul-Fitan and he said, "Some affairs have become clear to me, but others have not, and have not read them", and he lied, because he does not cease to support Abul-Hasan, he wrote a statement a few days ago on the website as-Saqaamah (alluding to a website whose name is slightly different) with the title, "To our Shaikh, the patient one, excpectant of reward, Abul-Hasan". So why this lie O Aba Zur'ah, but by the praise of Allaah, Allaah has disgraced you all.

Then by the praise of Allaah, we were able to connect to the Shaikh and then those hizbees stood and left the mosque, and this is the way of Ahl ul-Bid'ah, their hearts become tightened from the truth. Then these hizbees brought the police and the lecture was stopped, but by the praise of Allaah, when the police came, we said to them that the speaker is explaining the correct Islaam to the people, and he is warning them from terrorism, so they allowed us to continue for another 10-15 minutes.

And praise is due to Allaah who disgraced those Hizbiyyeen, and made the envy they carry for the Scholars of Salafiyyah to come out in the open. And from what Shaikh Rabee said was that these people by this action of theirs are taking the path of terrorism. And all praise is due to Allaah, the One who disgraced them.

This message was edited by naasir.ud-deen on 1-13-03 @ 9:26 AM

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Abu Zur'ah al-Leebee ash-Sharqawee and Abdul-Qadir

This Abu Zur'ah (mentioned in the above post by Abu Ishaq al-Athari) is the one recently spoken well of by Usamah al-Qoosee during the recent conference organised in Luton by the allies and defenders of Abul-Hasan al-Maribee, the Mubtadi'. Abu Zur'ah is a liar.

As you can see, he lied to Shaikh Rabee directly about his position on Abul-Hasan al-Maribee. Don't pay any attention to these good words poured upon them by Usamah al-Qoosee and his likes, because he and his likes only made flattery for these liars because they are together in their position on Abul-Hasan al-Maribee. Abdul-Qadir and Abu Zur'ah and people like them, such as Abu Usamah ath-Thahabi are followers and seekers of falsehood, and people of desires. And the scholars have verbally stated that they are to be treated like we treat the Innovators.

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