zaahir.abd | -- 20-02-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
AS SALAAMU ALAIKUM WA RAHMATULLAH CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST SOME INFO ON THESE BROTHERS, INSHA ALLAH? MUHAMMAD AL SHAREEF IS AGAINST THE DA'WAH I KNOW FIRST HAND. BUT WHAT IS HE ON AND HIS COMPANION? BARAKALLAHU FEEKUM AS SALAAMU ALAIKUM ZAAHIR ABDULLAH AL BUERTO RIKAANEE
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abdulilah | -- 20-02-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Salah as-Sawee says in the book 'Ath-thaabit wal Mutaghayaraat' p.145 "And there is no distinguishing limits between what enters into Tawheed Rububiyyah, Tawheed Uluhiyyah and Tawheed Asmaa wa Siffaat. Rather this division in this manner - there has not been reported- as far as we know- a decisive verse, or followed sunnah."!! However, i asked Sheikh Uthaimeen rahimaahullaah in Unaizah a few years ago about whether the 3 categories of Tawheed are a matter of Ijtihaad and the Sheikh rahimahullaah said "There is one verse which mentions all three categories of Tawheed, Soorah Maryah:65" "The Lord of the heavens and earth and what is between them, So worship Him and be patient upon His worship, do you know any simlitude to Him?" [Maryam:65] Sheikh Fawzan in his 'Duroos Minal Quran' answering the first question in the book, the sheikh refutes those who say that the 3 categories of Tawheed are a matter of terminology (istilaah) rather it is something derived directly from the Quran (istiqraa'i). In Imam Miqreezi's book 'Tajreed Tawheed al Mufeed' he mentioned the last Soorah's of the Quran such as Ikhlaas affirms mainly Tawheed asmaa wa sifaat, Soorah Kaafiroon affirms mainly Tawheed al Uluhiyyah and Soorah Falaq affirms mainly the Rububiyyah of Allaah. Soorah al-Faatihah and soorah Naas both affirm the 3 categories of Tawheed. So the Quran is all tawheed affirming the 3 categories of Tawheed from the beginning until the end. Other categories would come under these three not seperate. This is the foundation so beware of the newly invented matters coming from speakers not scholars. Salah Sawee is not from the scholars so his point in his book is refuted along with those who made similar errors such as Zarabozo, Ali Tameemi and all those who invented the 4th category al Haakimiyyah. Hukm yes belongs to Allaah but it comes under Uluhiyyah. Worse still comes from Salah Sawee's same book 'Ath-thaabit wal Mutaghayaraat' p.290 2nd edition: "in the offering that are to the people of the graves, and in the du'a by which they address the people in the graves - when the intent by that is seeking intercession from the wali with Allaah, and in tawaaf around them, all of that the most that be said about it is that it is innovation and not shirk"!!! That is sufficient to know what he is upon to keep away from him and his books. May Allaah keep us firm upon the truth with ikhlaas. Please note: The translated quotes from Salah Sawee's book 'Ath-thaabit wal Mutaghayaraat' have been taken from our noble brother Abu 'Iyaad.
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spubs.com | -- 14-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Salaah as-Saawee is not from the scholars, and he has great mistakes, and allows ijtihaad to enter issues of Imaan and Tawheed, and has problems in understanding affairs of shirk and matters related to the grave worshippers and there are mistakes regarding this in his books, and he challenges the established understanding of Tawheed (with its three types, which is taken from the Quran and is Ijmaa with Ahl us-Sunnah) and attempts to negate it, and he just like Suroor and others, belittles affairs of aqeedah and says some of these matters are old and bygone and it is not from Salafiyyah to raise them in our times. He is from the Ikhwaanees, Qutbees, Suroorees, and his dawah is built around issues of haakimiyyah, and he has many people with blind ta'assub to him. And Shaykh Muqbil (rahimahullaah) was writing a book on him, it is referred to in the footnotes to his book on al-Qaradaawee, and he called it "al-Kaawee fee Dimaagh as-Saawee" (the caustic/burning in the brain of as-saawee). So this person should not be referred to and his muta'assiboon followers (mainly in the US) should not be debated with. There is no need to go into any more detail than this because the man is majrooh, by the scholars such as Shaykh Muqbil, and his errors are manifest. ______________ www.spubs.com
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Umm.Layla | -- 16-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
As-salaamu alaikum wa Rahmantullahi wa Barakatuhu, Jazakallahu Khair for posting this information on Salah as-Sawee and Muhammad Al-Shareef. I had questions about these individuals myself. I have heard both of them speak. I know that you can bearly get either of the individuals to say "Salafi" or "Salaf us Salih." I bear witness to the immense changes, bida and fitna that have come about as a result of their affiliation with Dar es Salaam/Al Huda School. As Safi Khan was formerly my wakil (however Abu Tasneem corrected me that I can't fire a wakil at will), I had great discussions with him about Al Huda School, Dar es Salaam and goings on at the school. Suffice it to say that my concerns as well as the community's (i.e. the Salafi community as well as various communities) perception of those around him, as well as the inherent fitna with Indo-Pak political madness was in question. At least I can go before my Lord on the Day of Judgment knowing I tried my best to get the brother to see what is going on. Then again, if an individual speaks highly of Sayyid Qutb, what can I say? And this is just one reason why we have to travel to Baltimore or Ayah Musallah in order to hear the Haqq being spoken about. As was mentioned to me, the bidah of the school/Dar es Salaam is even more out in the open now. May Allah guide Safi, amin. At one time Safi wasn't so caught up in this bida that is now sooo prevalent there. May Allah keep us amongst those who sincerely strive to practice the deen in its pristine form, amin. As-salaamu alaikum Umm Layla This message was edited by Umm.Layla on 3-29-03 @ 2:26 AM
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AbooTasneem | -- 28-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
In a lecture delivered by me about two weeks ago in Laurel, Maryland, I read this quote: ..."in the offering that are to the people of the graves, and in the du'a by which they address the people in the graves - when the intent by that is seeking intercession from the wali with Allaah, and in tawaaf around them, all of that the most that be said about it is that it is innovation and not shirk"... Today I received a fax via my sister in-law from Salaah as-Saawee comprised of a 'response' to the above statement. His 'response' was from the Permanent Committee regarding tawaaf around the graves and the like. I am now in need of the Arabic text of the statement cited above by Mr. Saawee if someone out there has it. Baarakallaahu feekum Dawud Adib Aboo Tasneem Dawud Adib
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spubs.com | -- 29-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
These are some statements from his book ath-Thawaabit... and they are from Sahab.Net, around two and a half years ago. قال عن القبوريين"وفى الدعاء الذى يتوجهون به إلى أصحاب القبور,على أن المقصود هو طلب الشفاعة من الولى إلى الله.."إلى قوله"المقصود به أن يكون شبهة تنفى عنهم وصف الشرك حتى تقوم عليهم الحجة"!!!![ص219] :قال د.صلاح الصاوى "وفى الطواف بالأضرحة على أنه طواف تحية وليس طواف عبادة,فقصاراه أن يكون بدعة لا شركا. وفى طلب المدد على أنه طلب للدعاء والشفاعة إلى الله, فيؤول إلى التوسل المختلف فيه. ونحو ذلك من التأويلات التى تشيع فى عالم الصوفية...ليس المقصود به نفى البدعة والإثم عن هذه الأعمال, وإدراجها بين المسائل الإجتهادية التى لا ينكر فيها على المخالف, وإنما المقصود به أن يكون شبهة تنفى عنهم وصف الشرك,حتى تقوم عليهم الحجة ويثبت قصدهم إلى الإعتقادات الشركية الفاسدة,بما تثبت به الاعتقادات المبيحة للدماء."!!![الثوابت والمتغيرات:219]. :قال الصاوى "وردت الشرائع بمحبة الصالحين وتوقيرهم, وفى التبرك بآثارهم خلاف معتبر"!!![حاشية(1)ص187]. :قال الصاوى فى تقسيم التوحيد إلى ثلاثة أقسام "لم يرد به فيما نعلم آية محكمة أو سنة متبعة"!![الثوابت والمتغيرات:154]. :قال الصاوى[ص154]: "وليست هناك حدود فاصلة بين ما يدخل فى توحيد الربوبية, وبين ما يدخل فى توحيد الألوهية, وبين ما يدخل فى توحيد الأسماء والصفات"!! ______________ www.spubs.com
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AbooTasneem | -- 29-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is how Salaah as-Saawee responed to me: س 1: ما حكم الاستعانة بقبور الأولياء والطواف بها والتبرك بأحجارها والنذر لهم والإظلال على قبورهم واتخاذهم وسيلة عند الله. ج 1: الاستعانة بقبور الأولياء أو النذر لهم أو اتخاذهم وسطاء عند الله بطلب ذلك منهم شرك أكبر مخرج من الملة الإسلامية موجب للخلود في النار لمن مات عليه. أما الطواف بالقبور وتظليلها فبدعة يحرم فعلها ووسيلة عظمى لعبادة أهلها من دون الله, وقد تكون شركا إذا قصد أن الميت بذلك يجلب له نفعا أو يدفع عنه ضرا أو قصد بالطواف التقرب إلى الميت. وبالله التوفيق، وصلى الله على نبينا محمد, وآله وصحبه وسلم. اللجنة الدائمة للبحوث العلمية والإفتاء الرئيس عبد العزيز بن عبد الله بن باز نائب رئيس اللجنة عبد الرزاق عفيفي عضو عبد الله بن غديان عضو عبد الله بن قعود And with this: حكم الطواف وطلب الدعاء حول أضرحة الأولياء السؤال الرابع من الفتوى رقم (9879): س 4: ما حكم الطواف حول أضرحة الأولياء، أو الذبح للأموات أو النذر، ومن هو الولي في حكم الإسلام، وهل يجوز طلب الدعاء من الأولياء أحياء كانوا أم أمواتا؟ ج 4: الذبح للأموات أو النذر لهم شرك أكبر، والولي: من والى الله بالطاعة ففعل ما أُمر به وترك ما نُهي عنه شرعا ولو لم تظهر على يده كرامات، ولا يجوز طلب الدعاء من الأولياء أو غيرهم بعد الموت، ويجوز طلبه من الأحياء الصالحين، ولا يجوز الطواف بالقبور، بل هو مختص بالكعبة المشرفة، ومن طاف بها يقصد بذلك التقرب إلى أهلها كان ذلك شركا أكبر، وإن قصد بذلك التقرب إلى الله فهو بدعة منكرة، فإن القبور لا يطاف حولها ولا يصلى عندها ولو قصد وجه الله. وبالله التوفيق، وصلى الله على نبينا محمد, وآله وصحبه وسلم. اللجنة الدائمة للبحوث العلمية والإفتاء الرئيس عبد العزيز بن عبد الله بن باز نائب رئيس اللجنة عبد الرزاق عفيفي عضو عبد الله بن غديان And lastly this one: الطواف بالقبور والذبح عندها فتوى رقم (8086): س: يقول فيه نصيحة من مكة المكرمة ان الحاج عبد الله بن مصطفى قال: كنت نائما فرايت الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم امرني ان ابلغ هذه الرسالة بالمسلمين بالتعاون والايمان من يقرا هذه الرسالة عليه ان يكتبها 8 مرات ومن لا يقوم بتوزيعها يعاقب بالمرض ومن يقوم بتوزيعها يفرح بعد عشرة ايام فاذا كنت اكذب اموت على دين الكفر. هل هذا الكلام صحيح ام كذب؟ هل الناس الذين يذهبون الى القبة للزيارة ويكون معهم دجاج او نعجة ويذبحون حول القبة التي يوجد فيها الميت ويقول بان ذلك الميت مرابط هل هذا الشيء حرام ام حلال؟ ج: اولا: هذه الرؤيا باطلة لا اصل لها, وهي من جنس الرؤيا المنسوبة الى خادم الحجرة النبوية, وسبق ان كتب سماحة الشيخ عبد العزيز بن باز كتابة مطولة ونشرت في الصحف المحلية وغيرها. ثانيا: الطواف بالقبور حرام, وان قصد التقرب الى من فيها من الموتى فهو شرك اكبر يخرج من الاسلام, لان الطواف عبادة لقوله تعالى: {وليطوفوا بالبيت العتيق} وصرف العبادة او شيء منها الى غير الله شرك. ثالثا: الذبح عند القبور محرم, وان قصد به التقرب الى صاحب القبر فهو شرك اكبر لقول الله سبحانه: {قل ان صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العالمين لا شريك له وبذلك امرت وانا اول المسلمين} والنسك: هو الذبح, ولقول النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم: لعن الله من ذبح لغير الله خرجه مسلم في صحيحه وبالله التوفيق، وصلى الله على نبينا محمد, واله وصحبه وسلم. اللجنة الدائمة للبحوث العلمية والافتاء الرئيس عبد العزيز بن عبد الله بن باز نائب رئيس اللجنة عبد الرزاق عفيفي عضو عبد الله بن غديان عضو عبد الله بن قعود Does anyone here smell some talbees? Aboo Tasneem Dawud Adib
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Umm.Layla | -- 29-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
As-salaamu Alaikum, Abu Tasneem, is there an English translation available for the above, insha'allah? Umm Layla This message was edited by Umm.Layla on 3-29-03 @ 5:06 AM
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abu.iyaad | -- 29-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
-=amjad bin muhammad rafiq=- --as.salafi-- This message was edited by abu.iyaad on 3-29-03 @ 7:05 PM
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AbooTasneem | -- 29-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ahsant, ahsant wa baarakallaahu feekum jamee'an! Aboo Tasneem Dawud Adib
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abu.naimah.shamsuddi | -- 29-03-2003 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Al-Hamdulillah wa salatu wa salamu ala Rasulullah Amma ba'du; Salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah; Allah reward you for the information. Great piece showing many things, for example; 1. Why shirk is the greatest sin above even bid'ah, 2. Who to take knowledge from, 3. Why we need to be cafeful about passing on knowledge, 4. Ibadah, du'a, tawaf, all forms of worship are for Allah, Azza wa Jall. and I'm sure there was much more to be gathered from that Post. Abu Na'imah Shamsuddin
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Emenanjo | -- 06-02-2009 @ 6:07 AM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It is amazing that 5 years ago Yasir Qadhi openly attacked and criticized the likes of these people. Criticizing those who believe tawheed al hakimiyyah was a separate and 4th category of tawheed. Criticizing those upon taqleed of madhaaheb and grave worship. Now he unites with them and claims to be pleased with there company?! I heard him say with my own ears in December 2008: "I don't deserve to be own stage with the likes of Dr. Saleh As Sawhi. In countries that appreciate knowledge know I am nothing in comparison to him. I always turn to him for knowledge and guidance." Allah musta'aan.
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ibnwaheed | -- 07-02-2009 @ 11:52 PM | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The content of this thread and the thread below intersect in a few issues. The thread below links to this one, so perhaps this one should link to the thread below: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7298
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