HassanAs-Somali | -- 26-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/uploads/UthaiminNotSittingWithAhlulHawa.ram Link posted by the brother Abu Abdillaah. وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية: لا عيب على من أظهر مذهب السلف وانتسب إليه واعتزى إليه بل يجب قبول ذلك منه بالاتفاق فإن مذهب السلف لا يكون إلا حقا مجموع الفتاوى 4/ 149 This message was edited by HassanAs-Somali on 11-26-02 @ 2:33 AM
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HassanAs-Somali | -- 28-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
wa. ba`ad -----\|/----- We asked the Shaykh Allaamah Ubaid Al-Jabiri this question (Ruling on studying with the innovators) on the 25/11/2002, during a Q&A session. Inshaa Allaah the Jawaab will be posted asap. وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية: لا عيب على من أظهر مذهب السلف وانتسب إليه واعتزى إليه بل يجب قبول ذلك منه بالاتفاق فإن مذهب السلف لا يكون إلا حقا مجموع الفتاوى 4/ 149 This message was edited by HassanAs-Somali on 11-28-02 @ 4:03 AM
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al-haddul-faasil | -- 29-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
Assalaamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakaatahu
Fataawa A'imatul Muslimeen bi qat'il lisaanil mubtadi'een 131. (Taken from) Mawqif Ahlis Sunnah 2/689. This message was edited by al-haddul-faasil on 11-29-02 @ 3:13 AM
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faruq.as-salafi | -- 29-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
As-Salaamu' Alaikum. Suphan'Allah, Is the above kalaam taken from Ibn Uthaymeen as well? I do not know of the author of Mawqif Ahlis Sunnah. Baarak-Allaahu Feekum - wa sal-Allaahu wa-sallam 'alaa Nabiyyinaa Muhammad, was-Salaam 'alaykum wa-Rahmatullaahe wa-Barakaatuh. Abu' Salafi'ayn -From As-Salafiyoon in Columbus-
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al-haddul-faasil | -- 29-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
Ibraheem Ruhayli is the author Mawqif Ahlis sunnah. Here he quotes the Fatwa of some of the scholars of the past from Shaam and Magrib.
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AbdurRahmanAkil | -- 29-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
Does this ruling by Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen and Shaykh Ubaid al Jabiri refer to the innovator upon which the proof has been established or does this ruling apply to Ahl Bid'ah in general?
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sayfullaah | -- 29-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
For an understanding of what the word Ahl ul Bid'ah means look to the fatwa posted by our noble brother Amjad Rafeeq may Allaah preserve him.
--as.salafi-- Men are known by the truth, the truth is not known by way of men. This message was edited by Admin on 11-29-02 @ 6:02 PM
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al-haddul-faasil | -- 30-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
Muhammed Ibn Sireen said:
Intro. Saheeh Muslim 1/15. [format error updated by admin] This message was edited by Admin on 11-30-02 @ 12:50 PM
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uk_Salafi | -- 30-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
Hudhayfah ibn al-Yamaan radiallaahu 'anhu said. "The people used to ask the Messenger of Allaah sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam about the good, but I used to ask him about the evil for fear that it would overtake me ..." This message was edited by uk_Salafi on 11-30-02 @ 9:41 PM
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HassanAs-Somali | -- 30-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
The tape recording is found in the above link. وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية: لا عيب على من أظهر مذهب السلف وانتسب إليه واعتزى إليه بل يجب قبول ذلك منه بالاتفاق فإن مذهب السلف لا يكون إلا حقا مجموع الفتاوى 4/ 149
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amr.basheer | -- 01-12-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
I want to bring a point to clarify that there are differences in the ruling between accepting a riwaayah [narration] and studying with somebody which was the issue titled by our noble brother hassan. 1]Regarding narrations The shahaadah [witness] and riwaayah [narrating hadeeth] are similar in their ruling with ahl us-sunnah regarding acceptance. Some points to do with accepting narrations are; -A narration of an innovator who has fallen into major kufr is not accepted including the one who believes it is halal for him to lie to aid his hizb or madhab or party and their leaders [like most of the rawaafidh do]. If takfeer is not established upon the second type of individual, then his narration is rejected anyway for being a liar. -As for the innovator who does not fall in to major kufr some scholars will accept him [like aboo yusuf, al-izz bin abd us-salam and ahmed shaakir and al-albaanee] with the general requirements for a narrator being fulfilled, and some will reject him outright [like ibn sireen, as quoted by the brother previously] but the majority will accept his narration but making it conditional that he cannot be a caller to his innovation[s] and this seems to be the established and preferred opinion. 2] regarding studying and taking knowledge although accepting narrations is a part of gaining knowledge, it has some of its own special rulings. Here we mean taking explanations of texts, books and learning derived rulings from a particular shaikh. The scholars in this issue look less into his truthfulness and more to his influence on the student, as pointed out by shaikh al-uthaymeen. And jazakallahu khair to our brothers for translating these rulings from shaikh al-uthaymeen, rahumullaah and our noble shaikh ubaid al-jaabiree. There is a ruling from shaikh muqbil on the ?advice for students of knowledge section?. [For more details of what I mentioned refer to shaikh ar-ruhaylee?s excellent book which no salafi taalib should be without, pages 657-686.] This message was edited by amr.basheer on 12-1-02 @ 11:10 AM
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uk_Salafi | -- 01-12-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
Hudhayfah ibn al-Yamaan radiallaahu 'anhu said. "The people used to ask the Messenger of Allaah sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam about the good, but I used to ask him about the evil for fear that it would overtake me ..."
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HassanAs-Somali | -- 01-12-2002 @ 12:00 AM | ||||||
وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية: لا عيب على من أظهر مذهب السلف وانتسب إليه واعتزى إليه بل يجب قبول ذلك منه بالاتفاق فإن مذهب السلف لا يكون إلا حقا مجموع الفتاوى 4/ 149 This message was edited by HassanAs-Somali on 12-1-02 @ 6:38 PM
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Moosaa | -- 23-08-2003 @ 12:32 AM | ||||||
someone sent me an email recently asking about this topic...
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