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Moosaa
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Question: 'Abdul-Mun'im Al-Leebee, the chairman of the Qur'aan and Sunnah Society, now lives in our city, in Toronto.  Some of the members of his organization are here as well.  We heard that you have warned against him and his organization, however, they claim that this is not true.  So we are seeking clarification from you regarding this man, 'Abdul-Mun'im Al-Leebee, and his organization, as they are now in our city.

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I have warned against 'Abdul-Mun'im.  And I advise his organization, if they are truthful in their claim to Salafiyyah, to take a position against him, the Salafee position based upon guidance, the position that one takes for Allaah's Sake, not fearing the blame of the blamers. As there is no lip service in Salafiyyah, nor is there mutual flattery, nor are we to get behind people blindly.

And the meaning of (someone being a) Salafee is:

(a) To hold fast to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger, sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam;

(b) To take the utmost caution against things that contradict the Book of Allaah, the Sunnah of the Messenger, and what the righteous Salaf were upon;

(c) To not obey anyone in an affair of disobedience to Allaah;

(d) To not submit to any person of falsehood or desires;

(e) To not show allegiance except for the sake of Allaah;

(f) And to not show enmity except for the sake of Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic.

The firmest of the handholds of Islaam, or Eemaan, is one's loving for the sake of Allaah and hating for the sake of Allaah. [1]

So when 'Abdul-Mun'im aligns himself with the people of desires and the people of tribulations and turmoil, those who plot against the people of the Sunnah and the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah, and defend the people of innovation, inventing false principles in order to wage war against the people of the Sunnah and the principles of Ahlus-Sunnah, is someone who has allegiance to these kinds of people upon any kind of Salafiyyah?! I seek Allaah's Refuge from that.

This 'Abdul-Mun'im is mutahazzib for the misguided Abul-Hasan, the one who wages war against the people of the Sunnah, the one has launched an attack the likes of which we never seen before, with corrupt principles, lies, fabrications, and calumnies, the likes of which the people of the Sunnah have never encountered from any of the people of desires and misguidance before.

Al-Ikhwaan Al-Muslimoon, Jamaa'ah At-Tableegh, and the groups and parties of Qutbees have not done anything like what Abul-Hasan has done in his war against the people of the Sunnah.  How can 'Abdul-Mun'im have allegiance to this warrior against Ahlus-Sunnah and stand up for him, one who causes chaos and seeks to dominate them?!

How can he stand up for him if he has any respect for Salafiyyah or any respect for its people?!


This is something well known from Abul-Hasan's tapes and books - there is not a single person who advises him or criticizes his falsehood except that he attacks him and incites the people against him, seeking revenge, like a ferocious lion.  All this, while verily he is like an ostrich in the faces of the people of innovation, with his head in the ground, but a lion against us.

"A lion against us, but in the battles, an ostrich."

So this 'Abdul-Mun'im, what is it that has fastened him to Abul-Hasan?!  What is it that has fastened him to this man? As for his principles, then the scholars have testified to the falsehood of them.

And don't be deceived by 'Abdul-Mun'im's hiding behind the speech of Shaykh 'Abdul-Muhsin Al-'Abbaad!  For verily, 'Abdul-Muhsin is busy teaching the books of the Sunnah, and he has not departed from that so as to study the destructive path, irrationalities, or falsehoods of Abul-Hasan.

He (Shaykh 'Abdul-Muhsin) reads the arguments, however he does not really enter into the issues, nor does he know their origins, nor does he know how far they have reached, nor does he know who is aiding them!  He has merely has assumed good (about Abul-Hasan) and offered some advice, and moreover this advice is not free of mistakes.  However, we do not cast blame on him regarding his intention, in shaa' Allaah.

He has offered some advice, intending to extinguish the fitnah, and then, lo and behold, there is Abul-Fitan and his followers, the people of tribulations, kindling it from anew, claiming in front of the people that Shaykh 'Abdul-Muhsin is with them.

No!  Bring forth any of Abul-Hasan's principles, the corrupt principles that allow him to cancel this and affirm that (as he likes)!  Have any of the scholars of the Sunnah, from the East to the West, have any of the scholars of the Kingdom or Yemen adopted them?  None of them (meaning those who generally praise Abul-Hasan) have adopted a single thing that he has come with!  And many of them have not studied this affair.

And there also exists a great number of the eminent (scholars) of Ahlus-Sunnah, the forbearing men of them, that have studied the falsehoods, strayings, and principles of this corrupt manhaj of this man, and they have found that he is a person of misguidance and a caller to tribulations, and thus convicted him of innovation, and condemned his principles as being corruption and falsehood.

So what does 'Abdul-Mun'im want?  If he wants evil for his own soul, then with this jamaa'ah (QSS) follow him as he leads them into destruction, and makes it a point of argumentation between the Sunnah and its people and the representatives of misguidance?!

Verily Abul-Hasan has lead those who follow him right into the ranks of the people of falsehood!  A close union has formed between Abul-Hasan and the people of falsehood and misguidance.  Thus, the biased partisans of Al-Ikhwaan (Al-Muslimoon) and other people of misguidance have merged with him and have assisted him against the people of the Sunnah.

Don't you see that if this man was upon any type of truth, then would he have given allegiance to those people?  And they rejoice over his tapes, and they rejoice over this book that Shaykh Al-'Abbaad has written, intending it to be advice, turning it into a war against the people of the Sunnah!  

What is the real reason behind this?  The one who has the slightest sense of honor for the Sunnah and the slightest amount of intellect understands the real reason behind this joining of forces, mutual sympathizing, and ties of allegiance between Abul-Hasan and the people of misguidance!

This is the meaning of my warning to the people of the Qur'aan and Sunnah Society, I warn them from this man ('Abdul-Mun'im), so long as he does not repent to Allaah, return back to Allaah, and openly announce his repentance and disassociation from Abul-Hasan, the misguided one.  And if he does that (repents), then let them go along with him upon the way of the Book and the Sunnah.  And if he refuses, then it is upon each and every one of them to think about where he is going and not tie himself to the people of falsehood and take their path.

This is the affair of the people of misguidance, not the affair of the people of the Sunnah, (for they are) people who gain insight from the Guidance of Allaah and His Messenger, sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam, and follow it.

For if a man's own father strays into misguidance, then, by Allaah, he frees himself of him! If a man's own brother deviates, then, by Allaah, he frees himself of him!

If this is the case, then what about a man who you have no relationship with, no ties based upon Salafiyyah, and furthermore, no family ties or shared lineage or anything!?

"O our Lord, we obeyed our chiefs and elders, and they misguided us from the right path.  O our Lord, give them a double portion of punishment, and curse them with a mighty curse!" [2]


These are the disbelievers.  And the people of innovations and misguidance will also have a share of what is mentioned in it (the Verse).

So be warned against becoming from those who will have a share of Allaah's Threat, and He has shown that their end result is that they will mutually curse each other and argue with each other in the Next Abode, and Allaah's Refuge is sought.

I ask Allaah to guide them, and to take them by their forelocks and lead them to the Truth and to every good thing.



Aameen.

[taken from a recorded lecture by the shaykh]

Moosaa Richardson

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abu.ayyub.al-bukhari
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May Allaah reward and protect our Shaykh. ameen.



This message was edited by abu.ayyub.al-bukhari on 9-30-03 @ 7:34 PM

AbuBokorAs-Somali
01-10-2003 @ 9:34 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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asalaamu calaykum
could you please tell me where did you get this fatawaa from, is it on a websit or on tape. please sent me the website if you got it.

akram.al-bangalee
01-10-2003 @ 11:27 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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walaikum salaam

Here is the link for: A Clear and Decisive Answer Concerning 'Abdul-Mun'im al-Leebee, Chairman of QSS.

www.troid.org/audio/manhaj/innovation/groupsandpartisanship/leebee.htm

اكرم البانجالي

Moosaa
04-10-2003 @ 8:56 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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RAISED

in hopes that the advice of Shaykh Rabee' (who has met Abdul-Mun'im and dealt with him personally) will sink in...

in hopes that we might actually implement as-salafiyyah by heeding the words of our senior scholars who have dealt with a specific issue like this based upon knowledge, may Allaah preserve them, as our brothers from the du'aat, like Aboo Tasneem and Aboo Uways, have done some time ago...

in hopes that some of our brothers who are confused about these matters but occasionally visit ST will benefit and realize that those who call them to ignore these words of Shaykh Rabee' are inviting them to leave the specific jarh of an 'aalim who is specialized in jarh and ta'deel and qualified to speak on this issue, they want you to leave clear bayyinah in the affair for the speech of some of the ignorant followers of the organization or some general tazkiyahs based on husn ath-thann from other shuyookh, and this is the way of the hizbiyyoon, as our shaykh has said on many occasions...

RAISED so that our brothers might reflect about the insight of our Shaykh Rabee', may Allaah preserve him, when he said:

quote:





"And don't be deceived by 'Abdul-Mun'im's hiding behind the speech of Shaykh 'Abdul-Muhsin Al-'Abbaad!"


- Shaykh Rabee' ibn Haadee






[with a reminder that the AUDIO (Arabic/English) of the statement of our Shaykh Rabee' is available by following the link provided by Akram, akramahullaah.]

ولو كره الحزبيون

Moosaa Richardson

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This message was edited by Moosaa on 10-4-03 @ 9:22 PM

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Ahsaanta!

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عن ابن مسعود -رضي الله عنه- قال ُْقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم:
{اوثق عرى الايمان الحب في الله والبغض في الله}
(Awthaqu 'uraa al-eemaan al-hubb fillaah wal bughd fillaah)

'THE FIRMEST HANDHOLD OF EEMAAN IS LOVE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAAH AND HATE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAAH'


(The above taken from the footnotes of 'Husool al Ma'mool bi-sharh Thalaathatil Usool' of Shaikh Abdullaah bin Saalih al Fawzaan:
Taken from at Tabaraani's 'al-Kabeer' (pages 10357, 10531)
and Shaikh al Albaani makes the hadeeth Hasan in his Ta'leeq of kitaab
Al-Eemaan of ibn Abi Shaybah (page 45)).

ٍShaikh al-Albaani mentions in his footnotes to Kitaabul Eemaan of al Haafidh Abu Bakr Abdullaah bin Muhammad ibn Abi Shaybah (195 - 235H).

Hadeeth Number 110:
Narrated to us ibn Fudhayl on the authority of Layth(1) on Amr bin Marah that al-Baraa said that the Prophet said:  'THE FIRMEST HANDHOLD OF ISLAAM IS LOVE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAAH AND HATE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAAH'.

(1)He is ibn Abee Sulaym and he is weak and Ahmad narrated it (4/286) from a different tareeq from him, on the authority of Amr bin Marah on the authority of Mu'aawiyah bin Suwayd bin Maqran on the authority of al-Baraa.  And the isnaad (chain) which is after it (i.e hadeeth no.111) is mawqoof saheeh, and it comes in the form of marfoo' on the authority of ibn Mas'ood. As what comes in the explanation of the hadeeth (134).


Hadeeth Number 111:
Narrated to us ibn Numan on Maalik bin Migwal on Zubaid on Mujaahid who said:  'THE FIRMEST HANDHOLD OF EEMAAN IS LOVE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAAH AND HATE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAAH'.

Hadeeth Number 134:
Haddathanaa Zaid bin Hubaab on as-S'aq bin Hazn al-Bakree (2) who said that He صلى الله عليه وسلم said: THE STRONGEST HANDHOLD OF EEMAAN IS LOVE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAAH AND HATE FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAAH.

(2)He is from the Atbaa at-Taabieen and he is Thiqah, so the hadeeth is mu'addal,and at-Tabaraani brings it in a connected form from this same wajh on the authority of as-S'aq from Aqeel al-J'adee from Abee Ishaaq al-Hamdaanee from Suwayd bin Ghaflah on the authority of Abdullaah bin Mas'ood Marfoo (raised to the Messenger) with the hadeeth.  And Al-Haakim authenticates it and adh-Dhahabee opposes him.  But at-Tabaraani brings it in al-Kabeer with another isnaad on the authority of Abdullaah bin Mas'ood in a marfoo form and it is HASAN.  Especially after what has passed, as a witness for it in the hadeeth of al-Baraa (no. 110).

This message was edited by ayn.yaqidhah on 10-9-03 @ 5:51 PM

Moosaa
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sorry for not including the original footnotes:

[1] On the authority of Al-Baraa' ibn 'Aazib, may Allaah be pleased with him, the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) asked the Companions, "Which of the handholds of Islaam are firmest?"  They replied, "Prayer."  He said, "Good, and what else with it?" They said, "Fasting in Ramadhaan."  He said, "Good, and what else with it?" They said, "Jihaad."  He said, "Good, and what else with it?"  He then said, "Verily the firmest of the handholds of Eemaan are loving for the sake of Allaah and hating for the sake of Allaah."  It was collected by Imaam Ahmad in his Musnad (#18524, 30/488) with a dha'eef (weak) chain by way of Layth ibn Abee Sulaym, however it is considered hasan by way of other supporting narrations found in the Musannaf of Ibn Abee Shaybah and Shu'ab Al-Eemaan of Al-Bayhaqee.  Refer to Saheeh At-Targheeb wat-Tarheeb (#3030, 3/165-166) of Al-Albaanee.

[2] the meaning of Soorah Al-Ahzaab (33):67-68


Moosaa Richardson

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Shaykh Rabee' on the Jordanians' breach of their agreement:

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=23&Topic=2624






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