masjidalfurqan | -- 14-02-2009 @ 5:55 PM | ||||||||||||||||
We would like to bring to everyones attention, an email that has recently been forwarded, in respect of raising funds to purchase a building for At Tawheed Foundation in Stoke on Trent. Due to a large amount of enquires and questions that have been raised, in respect of this organization and its organizers, we have decided after careful consideration and consultation to make public this information, so that no one is mislead. We have already sent a brotherly advice to some of those that have forwarded this email, and likewise to the one who wrote it. As of yet - At-Tawheed Foundation have still not publicly corrected their statements. In the email that was forwarded to the public, the following was written:
We actually already have a fully functional Salafi Masjid (Masjid al-Furqan) in Stoke on Trent, (which has now been established for nearly 1 and half years, (Walhamdulilaah) where we hold regular live Telelinks with the Scholars from Saudi Arabia. We also have a Salafi Centre (Markaz al-Furqan) as well, (this centre has now been running for 3 years (Walhamdulilaah) - and this is where we initially established the 5 prayers and Jummah) This Salafi Centre (Markaz al Furqan) is only a 2 minute drive away from the proposed project building. We have over 50 children (boys & Girls) that we teach from Monday to Friday from this Salafi Centre Markaz al-Furqan (Walhamdulilaah). We have also recently opened The Olive Tree Advice Centre & Bookshop. This bookshop and all of its activities and publications are charitable. All proceeds go towards the running of our Masjid and Dawah. We give free Literature, Audio CDs in Urdu and English on topics such as Tawheed, Salaah, and what is Dawah Salafia and also leaflets and booklets Condemning Terrorism, Suicide Bombing and the methodology of the Qutubees and Soroories.. As per the advice of Our Scholars. In the email that was forwarded to the public, the following was written:
What the writer failed to disclose, or was unaware of at that time, is the fact that, the Barelawi Masjid, is not being closed down rather they are at the moment Building a Purpose built Masjid close by which they will then move to,(as per Multi map it will take 3 minutes to drive from the old building to the new one) Then they write in the email:
What the writer failed to disclose, or was again unaware of at that time, is the fact, that the Tablighee Masjid,(Makki Masjid) is only a 3 minute car drive away from the proposed project building. Likewise the Turkish Islamic Centre is only a 2 minute car drive away from the proposed project building. So people should not be under any misconception from this statement:
We are writing this, so that people can be aware of the true picture, as At-Tawheed Foundation have still not publicly corrected their statements, and it has been 5 days since we sent our advice. We will be posting, information concerning the Organizers of At Tawheed Foundation Shortly Insha Allaah Masjid al-Furqan 105 Roundwell Street Tunstall Stoke on Trent Staffordshire ST6 5AW The Olive Tree Advice Centre & Bookshop 103 Roundwell Street Tunstall Stoke on Trent Staffordshire ST6 5AW Tel: 01782 823777 Markaz al-Furqan 2 Cavendish Street Etruria Stoke on Trent Staffordshire ST1 4BH Email: masjidalfurqan@hotmail.co.uk
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masjidalfurqan | -- 21-02-2009 @ 4:18 PM | ||||||||||||||||
The Reality of the Project Organizers. Those responsible for trying to open this Foundation are fully aware of what we have established in Stoke on Trent and in fact some of them actually pray in our Masjid. We have tried many times and in many ways to sit with some of these people to advise them, to open a door of help for them, either they just refuse or will say that they are busy or they will say, there is no benefit in talking about these Issues! The Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam said (three times): The Deen is naseehah (sincerity and sincere advice). We said:To whom? He said: To Allaah, His Book, His Messenger and to the leader of the Muslims and the general people. (Related by Imaam Muslim in his Saheeh (no.55) Imaam an-Nawawee (d.676H) rahimahullaah said in Sharh Saheeh Muslim (2/38) Sincerity to the Leaders is to help them upon the truth. To obey them in it. To order them with it. To remind and advise them with kindness and gentleness. To remind them of that which they are heedless and neglectful of. To help them fulfill those rights of the Muslims that have not reached them yet. Not to rebel against them. To enamour the hearts of the people with obedience to them. Imam al Khattabi rahimahullah says, From sincerity to them is Prayer behind them, Jihad along with them, to give the zakat (charity) to them, and not to rebel against them with the sword when injustice or bad treatment appears from them. And that they are not praised with false praises, and that dua (supplication) is made for their righteousness. All of this is based upon the fact that what is meant by the leader of the Muslims is the Caliph, and other than him from the administrators who take charge of the affairs of the Muslims. Imam al hattabi also quotes it, then says, And it has also been taken to refer to the Imams who are the scholars of the Religion. And that sincerity to them includes accepting what they report, following them as regards rulings, and to have good thoughts about them. Source: Al-Ma loom min Waajib il-Ilaaqah bain al-Haakim wal-Mahkoom, (pp.22-23) Shaykh Abdul-Azeez ibn Baaz, was asked, Is it from the manhaj (methodology) of the Salaf to criticise the Rulers from the mimbar (the pulpit)? And what is the manhaj of the Salaf with respect to advising the Rulers? He responded: It is not from the manhaj of the Salaf to publicize the faults of the Rulers and to mention such things from the pulpit because that leads to confusion, disorder and the absence of hearing and obeying the ruler in what is good. It also results in (the people) becoming engrossed (with these matters, arguing and debating) which causes harm and produces no benefit. The followed path with the Salaf, however is to give naseehah (advice) with respect to the matters which are between themselves and the leader, writing to him or by reaching him through the scholars who keep in touch with him (to advise him) until the ruler is directed towards the good. Repelling the evil occurs without mentioning the doer of the evil. So fornication, drinking of intoxicants and the taking of usury are curbed without mentioning the one who does such things. Warding off the evil and warning and the people against it is sufficient without it being mentioned that such and such a person does it, whether he is a ruler or other than the ruler. And when the fitnah occurred in the time of Uthmaan, some of the people said to Usaamah ibn Zaid , Will you not speak to Uthmaan? So he replied, You think that I will not talk to him without letting you know about it (also). Indeed, I will certainly talk to him regarding that which concerns me and him without initiating a matter which I do not love to be the first to initiate. And when they (the Khawaarij) opened up the evil in the time of Uthmaan and rejected Uthmaan openly, the fitnah, the killing and the mischief, which has not ceased to affect the people to this day, was brought about And this caused the fitnah to occur between Alee and Muaawiyyah and Uthmaan was killed for these reasons. (Furthermore) a large number of Companions and other besides them were killed due to this open rebellion and the open proclamation of the faults (of the ruler), until the people began to hate the one charged with authority over them and killed him. We ask Allaah for success. End of the words of the Shaykh. al-Fatawa Ash-Shar iyyah fi Al-Qaḍaya Al-Aṣriyyah, a collection of various rulings by Muḥammad Ibn Fahd al-Ḥuṣayn. Question: What is your reply to one who says that most of the evils present in the land of Tawḥid (referring to Saudi Arabia) come from the government itself, and that the leaders are not Salafi (following the righteous Muslim predecessors)? Answer: Our reply is that this is just like those people who used to say the prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam ) was insane or a poet. We reply with the famous Arabic phrase: No harm will come to the clouds from the barking of the hounds. There does not exist today a country like ours with regards to Tawhid and ruling by the Islamic legislation. Of course, it is not free of problems just like every other country in the world. Even in Medina during the time of the prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam), there were some people who used to commit crimes such as stealing and adultery. From the cassette, al Radd ala Aḥmad Salam And he (Ibn al-Uthaymin) also said: Some people today have been tested with backbiting and speaking bad about certain groups from the Islamic nation like the leaders of its affairs: the scholars and those working within the governments. They let their tongues loose when they sit, talking about the scholars, the callers, those in authority, and the governments in general which are higher in position than the general authorities. Backbiting these people is an even greater sin and its effects are worse, causing dissension and division within the Muslim nation. Oh brothers, certainly backbiting those in authority like the leaders and scholars is not only backbiting those individuals, but its also backbiting and destroying what they stand for regarding their responsibilities. So when people talk badly about the scholars, the overall status and importance of scholars diminishes in the eyes of the people. Furthermore, what the scholars may say and advise with from the legislation of Allaah then loses its weight. This in turn results in people not acting in accordance with the legislation all caused by that initial backbiting. In that, there is a weakening of the religion of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta3la among the common people. So people who speak badly of those in authority like the nations leaders and governments, they harm the entire society. They dont harm only the government, but the whole society. This leads to infringement upon the safety and security of the society, its stability, and public order. When people dishonor their leaders (kings, presidents, etc.) and governments, their status and reputations are lowered among all the common masses. They begin to renounce allegiance to them, stop acting in compliance with what they command, and disregard whatever they may prohibit. At such a time, anarchy becomes acceptable to the society, each individual becoming his own leader. Then the affairs of corruption set in and the people live in chaos and disorder having no direction and leadership. So backbiting is a major sin and not something to be taken lightly. From the book: Wujub Ṭa ah al-Ṣulṭan fi Ghayri Ma ṣiyah al-Raḥman by Shaykh Muḥammad al-Urayni (pgs. 51-52). The Saudi state ever since it began has always aided the religion and its adherents. And it was not founded except upon this basis. And whatever it does at the moment in spending material wealth to support Muslims in every place, setting up centres and mosques, sending duat (to other countries), printing books at the forefront of which is the Noble Quran, opening centres of learning and faculties of knowledge, and its judging by the Islamic Shariah, and also setting up a separate body for enjoining the good and forbidding the evil in every city then all of this is a clear and evident proof of its aid to Islam and its adherents. And this is thorn in the throats of the people of hypocrisy and the people of evil and dissension. And Allaah is the Aider of His religion even if the pagans and the biased partisans may detest it. And we do not say that this state is perfect from every single aspect and that it does not have any mistakes. Mistakes occur by every single person and we ask Allaah that he helps this state in correcting its mistakes. But if this person (who makes such a claim) was to look at his own self, he would find mistakes that would prevent his tongue from speaking about others and make him feel ashamed of looking at others. Al Ajwibah al-Mufidah The Beneficial Answers to Questions on Innovated Methodologies (Eng Trans Page 152) Now let us see, what one of the organizers said (concerning a kharijees position on the Saudi Rulers and how he classes Saudi as being the Slaves of the Slaves of America) to which he replied,
On the 10th January 2009, one of the organizers of this project sent the following email, in reply to the efforts of King Abdullah (from the Kingdom of Sauia Arabia) in helping the people of Ghaza, this individual replied by email stating:
And likewise the same individual sent another email on the 16th January 2009 with attached PDF documents. The documents are titled: And These documents and emails are with us. This email was sent to many, and from them, are 2 others, who are also organizers of this project! Said: for what theyve done. al-Buḥuth al-Islamiyyah magazine, (No. 50, pgs. 7-17). Shaykh Ibn Baz also mentioned that Osama Bin Laden is someone spreading corruption on earth, following evil and destructive ways, and has revolted and challenged the leaders and authorities. Was asked: Is Bin Laden and those who follow his views and promote his beliefs considered to be from the (deviant sect known as the) Khawaarij? He responded: There is a (well known) principle, and this is that everyone who rebels against those in authority is considered to be from the Khawaarij, whether this is Bin Laden or anyone else. Anyone who rebels against the Muslim leaders is deemed to be from the Khawaarij. 1427/2/5 in the lesson The Explanation of the Creed To read more statements of the Kibaar Salafi Scholars, please refer to the compilation (access link below) http://www.answering-extremism.com/trans-pub/ae_various_1.pdf There response is:
Or they will say:
It is apparent from their statements, that they are in clear opposition to the Major Scholars from Saudi Arabia, and they utilize these types of statements to place doubts in to the hearts of the Muslims. Statements such as these, take people away from Salafiyah and its Scholars, leading them towards the destructive path of the Khawaarij. When it comes to matters of Politics and Jihad, and important matters of a similar nature, they leave the statements of the Major Scholars (from Saudi Arabia) and follow the statements of the Politicians and those that have been affected by the Methodology of the Khawarij! Upon the issues of Jihad in Iraq and in other places of the world, they are yet again in opposition to the Major Scholars from Saudi Arabia, lowering the status of our Noble Salafi Scholars, whilst in their gatherings. So to which Tawheed and Sunnaah are they calling to! And what will be the consequences of this call! Likewise, some of these individuals refuse to denounce a certain organization from Pakistan. Even though the likes of Sheikh Badee (May Allaah have Mercy Upon Him) as per the Sheikhs own students, and likewise Sheikh Ubayd al-Jaabiree (May Allaah Preserve Him) have all refuted them very strongly. They often used to take new brothers from Stoke to Birmingham, (to supposedly show them the other side of the coin) so that they could be spoken to, by a staunch supporter of that organisation, (who recently left for Pakistan) And this individual was known to intimidate those who followed the rulings of Jihad based upon speeches from our Noble Scholars (From Saudi Arabia). He was known for lowering the status of our Noble Scholars, whilst in the presence of some of these organizers during these meetings. Being responsible brothers, we feel that we had no choice except to relay and clarify to you the reality of these people, and their ways. These individuals in many matters of Manhaj are very deceptive, and will say one thing and do something else. (Depending on who is asking, and who they are speaking to) We hope that this gives the reader a brief insight into the affairs of this organization, even though we have much more than this, but we feel that this will be sufficient insha Allaah to make the reality apparent to our Brothers and Sisters. And with Allaah is All Success.
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abdullah.gambi | -- 24-02-2009 @ 6:01 PM | ||||||||||||||||
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masjidalfurqan | -- 01-03-2009 @ 5:54 PM | ||||||||||||||||
We yet again find those who support the Tawheed Foundation attempting to cloud the reality of what we have mentioned (in respect of the Foundations organisers). They have waited 2 days before the end date of collection, and then they have made public that they made 1 mistake, in respect of what they relayed about our dawah. Even though we had advised them 16 days before! They have not been able to reply to any of one of the above emails and statements that the organisers have made. (Which we have posted above) Likewise we are very well aware of the lie that they have relayed to Saudi Arabia, in respect of our dawah! But this is a character of those who spread fitnah & fasaad upon the earth. Rather they have tried to divert peoples attentions from this, by attempting to belittle what the Salafis in Stoke on Trent, have already achieved, by the will of Allaah. Our reply to them is:
For anyone who requires further information about the organisers of this Foundation, you are more than welcome to come to our Masjid and we will introduce you to brothers and the organisers relatives who know the organisers very well, and they will be able to tell you even more about the organisers adventures, plots and plans! Why does Fatwa online spread this type of mis-information, without checking its sources first? Why was fatwa online not quick to make public, that they had forwarded an email on 07th February 2009, with misleading statements. (even though we notified them of these misleading statements a few days after they had forwarded the email.) Why did Fatwa online not ask us for our version of the story, before they again forwarded the Foundations PDF document of misleading statements, on the 28th February 2009? Why are they aiding this organisation who places Shubohaat (doubts) into the hearts of our youth, so that they turn away from the Major Scholars of Saudi Arabia? Again we remind everyone: For anyone who requires further information about the organisers of this Foundation, you are more than welcome to come to our Masjid and we will introduce you to brothers and the organisers relatives who know the organisers very well, and they will be able to tell you even more about the organisers adventures, plots and plans!
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Salafi-Markaz.Manch. | -- 13-03-2009 @ 6:13 AM | ||||||||||||||||
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