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rasheed.b
09-03-2004 @ 11:52 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Qayla Rasheed bin Estes Barbee (Durham, NC)
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The Following is taken from Sahab.net



http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=1f48cc4988ebe42927cada4d717db261&threadid=290259


ابن عربي وابن العربي ...... الفوزان


بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
الحمد لله رب العالمين والصلاة والسلام على اشرف الانبياء والمرسلين نبينا محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم :
اما بعد : سئل فضيلة الشيخ العلامة صالح بن فوزان بن عبد الله الفوزان السؤال التالي :
س : أجد خلطا بين ابن عربي وابن العربي ، أرجو أن تبينوا لنا الفرق بينهما وأشهر مؤلفاتهما ؟

# فأجاب فضيلته : الفرق بينهما واضح فابن عربي بدون أل وهو الملحد المشهور الذي يقول بوحدة الوجود وهو من غلاة الصوفية الذين آل بهم الأمر الى الإلحاد والقول بوحدة الوجود ، ومن أخبث مؤلفاته (( الفتوحات المكية )) ، و((فصوص الحكم )) ، وهذه كلها كتب إلحاد منادية بوحدة الوجود وأنه لا فرق بين الخالق والمخلوق ، وأن الوجود في عقيدته كله هو الله ، تعالى الله عما يقول .
وأما ابن العربي بأل المعرفة فهو الإمام الجليل المشهور : أبوبكر بن العربي المالكي ، له مؤلفات جليلة في الحديث والتفسير ، وله الكتاب الجليل في الذب عن الصحابة الذي سماه (( العواصم من القواصم )) ، يدافع فيه عن الإسلام وعن صحابة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وهو كتاب جليل ، وله كتاب (( تفسير آيات الأحكام )) في مجلدين ضخمين . وله شرح سنن الترمذي واسمه : عارضه الأحوذي في شرح الترمذي )) ، وهذه كتب كلها مطبوعة وموجودة والحمد لله .
فبين الرجلين فرق واضح ، هذا كافر وضال وهو ابن عربي الحاتمي الطائي ،. وهذا ابن العربي إمام جليل مشهور بالاستقامة والعلم والتقوى .

المرجع // المنتقى من الفتاوى فضيلة الشيخ صالح الفوزان
الجزء الثاني ص 306 و 307
أخوكم // السلعاوي
والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته



وَكَانَ الْفُضَيْل بْن عِيَاض يَقُول : يَا كَذَّاب يَا مُفْتَرٍ , اِتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَلَا تَسُبَّ الشَّيْطَان فِي الْعَلَانِيَة وَأَنْتَ صَدِيقُهُ فِي السِّرّ

AbooTasneem
09-03-2004 @ 5:45 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Aboo Dihyah Dawud Adib (Philadelphia, PA U.S.A.)
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In the Name of Allaah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

All praise is due to Allaah, Lord of all the Worlds, and may the Salaat was Salaam be upon the most honored of the Prophets and Messengers, our Prophet Muhammad.

As to what proceeds: The noble shaikh, al-Allaamah Saalih ibnu Fawzaan ibni Abdillaah al-Fawzaan was asked the following question:

Question: I find some vagueness between Ibnu Arabee and Ibnul Arabee. I would hope that you would explain for us the difference between the two and their most well, known writings?

Answer:

quote:
The difference between the two is clear. Ibnu Arabee without the definite article [attached to the name Arabee] is the well known heretic who used to espouse Wahdatul Wujood and he was one of the extremist Soofees who were eventually lead to the issue of ilhaad, the statements of Wahdatul Wujood and that there is no difference between the Creator and the creation. And according to his aqeedah, all that exist is Allaah, the Most High.

As for Ibnul Arabee, with the definite article [attached to the name Arabee], then he is the well-known, lofty imaam, Aboo Bakr ibnul Arabee, al-Maalikee who had noble writings in the area of hadeeth and tafseer and a noble book, defending the Companions, which he called al-Awaasim minal Qawaasim.

He defended in that book, Islaam and the Companions of the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alaihe wa alaa Aalihee wa Sahbihee wa sallam.

It is a noble book and he also has a book entitled Tafseeru Aayaatil Ahkaam, in two huge, volumes. He also has an explanation of the Sunan of [al-Imaam] at-Tirmidhee called Aaridatul Ahwadhee fee sharhit Tirmidhee.

All of these books are published and to be [easily] found and all the praise is due to Allaah.

Therefore, there is an obvious difference between these two men; one is an astray disbeliever, and that is none other than Ibnu Arabee, al-Haatimee, at-Taa?ee while [the other one] Ibnul Arabee is a noble, lofty imaam known for correctness, knowledge and fear of Allaah.


Source: al-Muntaqaa minal Fataawaa of the noble Shaikh Saalih al-Fawzaan, volume two, pages 306-07    


Dawud Adib the son of David C.White Sr.

وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية :" الراد على أهل البدع مجاهد"

Moosaa
09-05-2004 @ 8:20 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Jazaakum Allaahu khayran.  It should be noted that this is not absolute, as some of the 'ulamaa' do not go by this.  Just as some say Ibn 'Uthaymeen sometimes and Ibn al-'Uthaymeen sometimes, 'Abbaas, al-'Abbaas, Ibn Qayyim, Ibn al-Qayyim, etc., they may say Ibn 'Arabee and Ibn al-'Arabee for the same person.  And Allaah knows best.

Moosaa ibn John Richardson

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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
أستغفرك وأتوب إليك

Khalil.Karoosi
04-19-2005 @ 9:48 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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There is a man I know here in London who follows Ibn Arabi.  Not Ibn al-Arabee (rahimahullaah), but Ibn-Arabi.  He is a middle-aged man from Somalia.  

He has been to Saudi and knows of Shaykh Rabee' ibn Haadee, who he referred to as an "extremist Salafee".  He even claims that Hasan al-Basree (rahimahullaah) was a Sufi!  When I saw him recently he was carrying a copy of one of Ibn Arabi's books.

I would like to ask one of the students of knowledge, du'aat or anyone who knows what the people of knowledge say the following question:

Are some of the followers of Ibn Arabi considered mushriks*?  I'm not asking for a ruling on this particular individual, I'm just asking the question generally.  


*Ibn Arabi had major shirk and kufr in his aqeedah.  Please refer to "The Reality of Sufism" by Shaykh Muhammad ibn Rabee' for an exposition and refutation of him.
    

  



This message was edited by Khalil.Karoosi on 5-4-05 @ 2:56 PM






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