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oummou.assia
04-20-2004 @ 12:53 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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assalam  alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh

As i have not been able to study this point properly, i would like to know if any of the salafiyyin could help me undertsand the difference between:
1) hulool
2) wahdatul  wudjood
giving me a detailed definition of the two ,jazaakum ALlahu khairaan.

(الحق من ربك"(آل عمران"
Oummou Assia Amina Le Joncour al-firanssiyyah as-salafiyyah.

mohammad.amriki
04-21-2004 @ 7:20 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Hulool- Lit. "Entering" - Divine indwelling.  The belief that Allaah dwells within a particular human.  i.e. That Allaah dwells in a particular Soofi shaykh,  a pious person, a Prophet - This belief is shared by Christians, certian Soofies, certian Sheites, Seekhs and others.

Wahdaatul Wujood - Lit - Unity of Existance.  The belief that all existance is a single existance and everything we see are only aspects of the Essence of Allaah.  This belief is also held by certian Soofies, Hindus, New Age religions, and others.

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Rabee' ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee explained these two beliefs in "The Reality of Sufism - In Light of the Qur'aan and Sunnah:"

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(2) The second ideology is that of those who believe in hulool, those who say that Allaah dwells and is incarnate in human beings, High is Allaah above and far removed from that. This was openly called to by some of the extreme Sufis, such as al-Husayn ibn Mansoor al-Hallaaj who was declared to be an unbeliever by the scholars. They ordered that he be executed and he was crucified in the year 309H. The following saying is attributed to him:

"Glory to Him who manifested His human nature, Hiding the piercing brightness of His divinity: Till His creation saw Him openly, In the form of one eating and drinking" Attributed by al-Wakeel to the book at Tawaaseen of al Hallaaj (p. 130).

And his saying:

"I am the one who loves and the One who is loved is me, We are two spirits who dwell in a single body. So when you see me you see Him, and when you see Him you see us both."

So al-Hallaaj was a believer in hulool and believed in the duality of the divine nature and that the Deity had both a divine and a human nature. Thus the divine becomes incarnate within the human so that the human spirit is the divine nature of the Deity and the body is its human form.

Despite the fact that he was killed for his evil apostasy although some of the Sufis declare themselves free of him, yet others count him as a Sufi, hold that his beliefs were correct, and write down his words. From them is Abdul-'Abbaas ibn 'Ataa al-Baghdaadee, Muhammad ibn Khaleef ash? Sheeraazee and Ibraheem an-Nasraabaadhee, as is reported by al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadee.

(3) The third ideology is that of wahdatul-wujood, i.e. that all in existence is a single reality, and that everything we see is only aspects of the Essence of Allaah. The chief claimant of this belief was Ibn 'Arabee al-Haatimee at-Taa'ee, who was buried in Damascus having died in the year 638H. He himself says about this belief in his book al-Fatoohaat-ul-Makkiyyah":

"The slave is the Lord and the Lord is a slave, I wish that I knew which was the one required to carry out the required duties.  If I were to say the servant then that is true, or if I were to say the Lord, then how can that be required for Him."

Al-Fatoohaat-ul-Makkiyyah as it is attributed by Dr. Taqiyyuddeen al-Hilaalee in his book al-Hadiyyatul-Haadiyah (p.43).

He also says in al-Fatoohaat:

"Those who worshipped the calf worshipped nothing except Allaah."

Quoted as Ibn 'Arabee's saying by Ibn Tayrniyyah in al-Fataawaa (vol.11), who attributes it to the book al-Fatoohaat.

Ibn 'Arabee is called 'al-'Aarif billaah' (The one having great knowledge of Allaah) by the Sufis, and also 'al-Qutubul Akbar' (The great pivot), 'al-Miskul-Adhfar' (the sweetest smelling musk), "al-Kibreetul-Ahmar' (the reddest brimstone), despite his belief in wahdatul-wujood and other calamitous sayings. Indeed he praised Fir'awn (Pharaoh) and declared that he died upon eemaan! Furthermore he speaks against Haroon for his criticism of his peoples worship of the calf, thus directly opposing the text of the Qur'aan. He also held that the Christians were Unbelievers only because they made divinity particular to 'Eesaa, whereas if they had made it general to all then they would not have been unbelievers. [Despite all the gross deviation of Ibn 'Arabee and the fact that the scholars declared him to be an Unbeliever, yet he is revered by the Sufis and others who do not distinguish between the truth and falsehood, and those who turn away from accepting the truth even when it is as clear as the sun. But his books, which are filled with clear apostasy, such as al-Fatoohaatul-Makkiyyah and Fusoosul-Hikam are still circulated. He even has a tafseer, which he called at-Tafseerul-Baatin since he holds that there is an apparent and a hidden meaning for every Aayah, so the outer meaning is for the people of Ta'weel.

From this group came Ibn Basheesh who said:

"O Allaah rescue me from the mire of Tawheed, and drown me in the centre of the sea of unity, and mix me into the state of unity and oneness until I do not see, nor hear, nor sense except through it."



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A Clarification Of Doubts Regarding Wahdatul Wujood


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oummou.assia
04-21-2004 @ 11:49 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalam alaykoum
waadih jiddan al aan, wa jazaakoum Allahou khairaan.
May i know if you took this from Shaykh Rabee' as Sunnah from the net and therefore could you give me the link inshaAllah, or did you transate it yourself?

(الحق من ربك"(آل عمران"
Oummou Assia Amina Le Joncour al-firanssiyyah as-salafiyyah.

This message was edited by oummou.assia on 4-21-04 @ 12:46 PM

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وعليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته


The book, "The Reality of Sufism - In Light of the Qur'aan and Sunnah," by Muhammad ibn Rabee' ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee is translated in English and available at www.salafibookstore.com -> Aqidah.

The author is actually the son of Shaykh Rabee' (حفظهاالله تعلى).

From www.troid.org -> audio -> speakers -> Students of the 'Ulamaa:
quote:
Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Rabee' al-Madkhalee:  

This is the son of al-'Allaamah Rabee'us-Sunnah, he currently teaches at the Islaamic University of al-Madeenah.  He has written numerous books, including a refutation upon the Soofiyyah and he has compiled checking for some of the works of the Imaams of the past.


With regards to me translating, then I do not do translations.  I am still learning from vol. 1 of the Madeenah books (Dr. V. Abdur-Rahim).

ابو سليمان محمد

Buffalo, NY, U.S.A.

This message was edited by mohammad.amriki on 4-21-04 @ 6:45 PM






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