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UmmFaycell
08-10-2009 @ 10:58 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm Faycell Hada bint Sa'eed bin Umar (Jeddah Saudi Arabia)
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Assalamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullah,

Are there any authentic narrations giving us proof that the females at the time of the Salaf (women NOT girls) danced on 'Eid or at weddings? Does Shaykh Al-Albani speak on this issue?

Jazakum Allahu khayr

Umm Faycell

adilkhan.salafi
10-10-2009 @ 6:30 AM    Notify Admin about this post
unspecified Adil bin Hanif (West London, UK)
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Question:
Respected Shaykh, may Allah give you success: on the days following Eid, some people organize gatherings for women where the simple hand drum (al-duff) is used and there is dancing and singing. [The women] say these are the days of Eid and it is allowed to use al-duff, dance and sing without using [other] musical instruments; how correct is this?

Answer:
Brother, the day of Eid is one day, not a number of days. The days of Eid Al-Ad-ha and Eid Al-Fitr are a one day for each. The Days of Tashriq that follow the day of Eid Al-Ad-ha are not days of Eid, they are not called Days of Eid; these are the Days of Tashriq. These people [being asked about] want to revive drums, musical instruments and singing, they call them the Days of Eid. This is a lie about the Shariah; this behaviour is not allowed not for men and not for women.

Audio link (Arabic):
http://www.alfawzan.ws/AlFawzan/sounds.aspx?url=/AlFawzan/sounds/00076-39.ra

Question:
May Allah's benevolence be upon you, respected Shaykh, the enquirer asks: In the tape shops there are tapes where there are recordings of al-duff being played accompanied by young women / teenage girls saying nashids. Teenage girls and women listen to these tapes on Eid with the excuse that al-duff is allowed on the Day of Eid. What is the ruling on this?

Answer:
The ruling is that this is not allowed. This [activity] teaches young women false frivolity and singing it spoils young Muslim women and makes them become silly. Accordingly, these tapes must be destroyed, they must be destroyed. Singing on Eid was not allowed by the Prophet Allahs praise and peace be upon him except for young girls; minors who were not legally liable for their actions. [They were] young girls, not females who were legally bound by Islamic law (i.e. those who had reached puberty). Women who are grown up and legally bound by the commandments of Islam are not permitted to sing or behave frivolously.

Audio link (Arabic):
http://www.alfawzan.ws/AlFawzan/sounds.aspx?url=/AlFawzan/sounds/00250-38.ra

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Source: Taken from the official website of Shaykh Salih Al-Fawzaan. Compiled in a forum thread on Sahab Salafi Network, http://www.sahab.net/forums/showthread.php?t=371711
accessed 21/09/2009.

Translator: Abı Abdillıh Owais Al-Hıshimı -
(Taken from a west london dawah yahoo group email)

UmmAbdillah
12-10-2009 @ 11:42 PM    Notify Admin about this post
UmmAbdillah Haneefah Ashawe (Jeddah,SaudiArabia)
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As salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh,

Concerning the permissibility of women dancing here are two fatwas from  the fataawa of Shaykh-ul-Uthaymeen (rahimahullaah). There are more of this nature, insha'Allaah this will suffice for now:

1. Question:

The sister asks in her second question about the ruling on dancing at weddings when it is in front of other women only.

Answer:

Dancing is makrıh (disliked) even in front of other women. Disturbing things have reached us [about what happens amongst some women] where some women are nimble in their movements and cause fitnah and desires in the hearts of other women who are present, to such an extent that it has reached me that some women get up and embrace the dancer and start to kiss her. Therefore, we do not consider dancing to be allowed at parties; not during weddings, nor at any other occasion.


2. Question:

[The sister asks] is dancing allowed if it is done by women amongst themselves and is accompanied with permissible singing?

Answer:

I do not think dancing should be done by young women who might cause fitnah for other women through their dancing. I have heard that evil things have happened when young women stand and dance, moving their bodies about; some women might be moved to go up to her and embrace her, hold her and kiss her ı this is a fitnah. As for an elderly woman who doesn't attract much attention, then I hope that it is okay if such women dance.

From Fataawa Nur 'ala Al-Darb.

Translated by Abu Abdillah Owais Al-Hashimi

bintshams
07-11-2009 @ 11:36 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Um Umar Farrah bint shams (uk)
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Salam alaikuim wa rahmatullahi wa barakathu
Question:

What is the ruling of women dancing amongst themselves during a wedding or other than that? May Allaah reward you.
Answer:

There is no harm in the dancing of women on the ocassion of marriage and the beating of the duff (a simple drum) along with some singing of virtuous songs (not containing sinful speech) - because this is from the announcement of the marriage that has been commanded by the sharee'ah - However with the condition that this is done in the company of women only, with voices that are not raised so that they pass outside of the venue, and with the condition that there is complete seclusion and screening. Also that the awrah (the areas of the body that should be concealed) are not revealed whilst dancing, such as her legs, or her arms or her upper arms - and that which is shown from these is in accordance with the customs/habits of the Muslim women in the presense of (other) women.

Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan
"Al-Muntaqaa", ash-Shaykh al-Allaamah al-Fawzaan, 2/172,172.
Translated by Abu Khadeejah






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