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Abu Lubaynah Abdul Ghanee ibn Michael Goodchild Al-Guyaanee
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Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh
A statement from one of the salaf:
Imaam ash-Shaafi'ee (d.204H) said, "My ruling regarding the people of theological rhetoric is that they should be beaten with palm leaves and shoes and be paraded amongst the kinsfolk and the tribes with it being announced, 'This is the reward of the one who abandons the Book (Qur'aan) and the Sunnah and turns to theological rhetoric (kalaam).'"
Sharhul'Aqeedatit-Tahaawiyyah of Ibn Abil-'Izz, (p. 75).
Sharhus-Sunnah (1/218) of Imaam al-Baghawee.
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Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu
A narration from the salaf:
Al-Fudayl ibn 'Iyaad (d.187H) rahimahullaah said,
"Do not sit with a person of innovation. Allaah has rendered his actions futile and has taken the light of Islaam from his heart." He also said, "Do not feel safe about your deen with a person of innovation. Do not consult him in your affairs and do not sit with him, for whoever sits with a person of innovation Allaah will make him inherit blindness." And he said, "Verily, Allaah has angels who look for the gatherings in which remembrance is made, so look and see with whom is your sitting. Let it not be with a person of innovation for Allaah does not look at them. And a sign of hypocrisy is that a man stands and sits with a person of innovation."
Sharh Usoolul-I'tiqaad of al-Laalikaa'ee no. 263-265
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Abu Lubaynah Abdul Ghanee ibn Michael Goodchild Al-Guyaanee
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Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu
Some narrations regarding the topic:
The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said,
"Whoever innovates or accommodates an innovator then upon
him is the curse of Allaah, His Angels and the whole of
mankind."
Reported by Bukhaaree, 12/41 and Muslim, 9/140
Aboo 'Uthmaan as-Saaboonee (d. 449W)
said, "And they avoid the People of Innovation and
Misguidance, having enmity for the People of Desires and
Ignorance. They hate the People of Innovation who introduce
into the Deen that which is not from it. They do not love them,
they do not accompany them, they do not listen to their words,
nor sit with them or argue or dispute with them regarding the
Deen. And they protect their ears from listening to their
falsehoods, which if they pass by the cars and settle in the
hearts, harm the hearts and bring corrupt ideas and
whisperings upon them."
Aqeedatus-Salaf wa Ashaabil-Hadeeth, p. 99.
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Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn al-Qaasim related to us, saying:
Ahmad ibn al-Hasan narrated to us saying:
Sulaymaan ibn al-Ash'ath narrated to us, saying:
'Abdullaah ibn Chubbi al-Anteeq narrated to us, saying:
Yaws ibn Asbaat narrated to us, saying: I heard Muhammad ibn an-Nadr al-Haarithee say:
"Whoever listens to a person of innovation - and knows that he is a person of innovation - then protection is taken away from him, and he is left to himself."
al-Imaam al-Haafiz Abul-Qaasim Habatullaah ibn al-Hasan ibn Mansoor at-Tabaree al-Laalikaa'ee (d.418 A.H.) reports in his "Sharh Usool I'tiqaad Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah" - Volume 1 Pages 135-136 No. 252
My advice to everyone on this forum is to stick to such advises from the Salaf and not visit the websites, forums and the places where Bidaah is promoted or defended or even silently approved.
May Allaah reward brother Aboo Khadeejah hafithahullaah for reminding me of the importance of not listening to those who misguide the people with their doubts. May Allaah keep all the Salafees firm upon the Sunnah and prevent us from being arrogant.
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Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu
Some narration from the Salaf:
Al-Fudayl ibn 'lyaad (d. 187H) said, "I met the best of people, all of them people of the Sunnah and they used to forbid from accompanying the People of Innovation."
Reported by al-Laalikaażee,
Sufyaan ath-Thawree (d.161 H) said, "Whoever listens to an innovator has left the protection of Allaah, and is entrusted with the innovation."
Reported by Aboo Nu'aym in Al-Hilyah, 7/26 and Ibn Battah, no. 444.
Al-Fudayl ibn 'Iyaad (d. 187H) said, "Whoever sits with a person of innovation, then beware of him and whoever sits with a person of innovation has not been given wisdom. I love that there was a fort of iron between me and a person of innovation. That I eat with a Jew and a Christian is more beloved to me than that I eat with a person of Innovation."
Reported by al-Laalikaa'ee
Al-Layth ibn Sa'd (d. 175H) said, "If I saw a person of desires (i.e. innovations) walking upon the water I would not accept from him." So Imaam ash-Shaafi'ee then said, "He (al-Layth) has fallen short. If I saw him walking in the air I would not accept from him."
Reported by as-Suyooti in Al-Amr bil 'lttibaa wan-Nahee 'anil-lbtidaa. Refer to Chapter Eight: On the Prohibition of Sitting with the People of Innovation, Listening to them, Arguing with them, To Abandon them and those who Associate with them.
Imaam as-Saaboonee (d. 449H) said about Ahlus-Sunnah, "They follow the Salafus-Saalih the Imaams and the Scholars of the Muslims, and they cling to the firm deen that they clung to and to the clear truth. And they hate Ahul-Bid'ah (the People of Innovation) who innovate into the Deen that which is not from it. They do not love them and they do not keep company with them. They do not listen to their sayings, nor sit with them, nor argue with them about the Deen, nor debate with them. Rather, they protect their ears from hearing their futility; things, which if they pass through the ears and settle in the hearts, will cause harm and cause doubts and wicked ideas to appear. And concerning this Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, sent down: And when you see people engaged in vain discourse about Our Signs, then turn away from them unless they turn to a different theme." Soorah al-An'aam (6):68
Risaalah fil-I'tiqaad Ahlis-Sunnah Ashaabil-Hadeeth, p. 100, of Imaam asSaaboonee.
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