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Topic: help again, please!
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Umm Yusuf Khadijah bint Carolyn
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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
as salaamu 'alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu!
Islamically what should we do if someone is intentionally slandering someone due to some false suspicions they may have?
Barakallahu feekum!
"And whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out(from every difficulty). And He will provide for you from sources he never could imagine. And whosoever puts his trust in Allah, then He will suffice him."
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Umm Muhammed ibn Yassir Maria bint Jose
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WA ALAYKUM SALAM WA RAHAMTUALLAH
I REALLY HOPE THAT SOMEONE CAN GET THIS ANSWERED. I HAVE SEEN OR HEARD SOMEONE MENTION THIS TOPIC A FEW TIMES. AND I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION! PLEASE SOMEONE REPLY! WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN SLANDERED OR BACKBITTEN?
umm.ridwan.bakr 02-26-2004 @ 5:06 PM Notify Admin about this post
Umm Ridwan Farihah bint Abdul-Malik (UAE)
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As Salaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah
How does a person deal with the issue of slander , when the person is continuously slandered and the this does NOT involve issues of manhaj or aqeedah? Can any of the students of knowledge please the shuyook regarding this matter?
Jazakullah khairan for your assistance.
Umm Ridwan
This message was edited by Umm.Khadeejah on 3-10-04 @ 1:14 AM
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| wasim.ahmed
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Abu 'Abdil 'Azeez Waseem ibn Abdirraheem Al Peshimaam
(Bangalore,India / Al Qaseem , K.S.A)
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al-Hamdu-Lillaahi Rabbil-'Aalameen was-Salaatu was-Salaamu 'alaa
Ashrafil-Anbiyaa?e wal-Mursaleen, wa ba'd:
as-Salaam 'alaykum wa-Rahmatullaahi wa-Barakaatuhu,
Admonish them & advice them in the best possible manner.
Please refer to the following beneficial article by Shaykh rabee' bin Haadee (hafidhahullaah) -
http://www.troid.org/articles/ibaadah/advice/advicetothemuslims/hesaidshesaid.htm
wassalaamu 'alaykum.
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Shaykh Al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (d 728H) stated, "There is no blame on the one who openly manifests the math-hab of the Salaf, names himself by it, and takes honour in it. Rather, that must be accepted from him due to the agreement (of the scholars). For verily the math-hab of the Salaf is nothing but Truth..." [Majmoo' Al-Fataawaa, 4/178]
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Wasim Ahmad ibn 'Abdurraheem ibn 'Abdulbaseer Salafi Alhindee
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Umm Yusuf Khadijah bint Carolyn
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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
as salaamu 'alaykum!
Barakallahu feeki Sister, I found a response to this matter that was raised previously on this board.
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Abul-'Abbaas Moosaa ibn John Richardso ('Azeeziyyah, Makkah, Saudi Arabia)
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wa 'alaykumus-salaamu wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.
It is not ever permissible to slander people, not the people of innovation, not even the kuffaar. I believe you are referring to gheebah (backbiting). Slandering (buhtaan) is lying on someone, and backbiting is stating the truth about someone, something that he would not like to hear.
قال الإمام مسلم: حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ أَيُّوبَ وَقُتَيْبَةُ وَابْنُ حُجْرٍ قَالُوا حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَعِيلُ عَنِ الْعَلَاءِ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ أَتَدْرُونَ مَا الْغِيبَةُ قَالُوا اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ أَعْلَمُ قَالَ ذِكْرُكَ أَخَاكَ بِمَا يَكْرَهُ قِيلَ أَفَرَأَيْتَ إِنْ كَانَ فِي أَخِي مَا أَقُولُ قَالَ إِنْ كَانَ فِيهِ مَا تَقُولُ فَقَدِ اغْتَبْتَهُ وَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ فِيهِ فَقَدْ بَهَتَّهُ
"Imaam Muslim said that Yahyaa ibn Ayyoob narrated to him that Qutaybah and Ibn Hujr said: Ismaa'eel narrated to us from al-'Alaa' from his father from Aboo Hurayrah, that the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said: "Do you know what gheebah (backbiting) is?" They said, "Allaah and His Messenger know best." He said: "That you mention about your brother something he dislikes." It was said, "What if what I say is true about him?" He said: "If he is really like what you have said, then you have backbitten him (gheebah), and if it is not true, then you have slandered him (buhtaan)."
Backbiting is haraam due to Allaah's Statement:
ولا يغتب بعضكم بعضا
"And do not backbite one another"
and only becomes permissible in certain instances, like warning against a harmful person (including innovators, thiefs, people who cause corruption, weak narrators and liars, etc.), consulting a judge about the oppression of a person, seeking help in correcting a wrong, etc. It is not something only related to the 'aqeedah or manhaj of a person. Refer to Imaam an-Nawawee's chapter on Backbiting from Riyaadh as-Saaliheen and then the chapter after it about the exceptions to its prohibition.
Moosaa ibn John Richardson
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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
أستغفرك وأتوب إليك
This message was edited by Moosaa on 2-27-04 @ 5:01 AM
"And whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out(from every difficulty). And He will provide for you from sources he never could imagine. And whosoever puts his trust in Allah, then He will suffice him."
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Umm Muhammed ibn Yassir Maria bint Jose
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wa alaykum salam wa rahnatuAlllah wa barikatu
wa feekum barakAllah
just to add more
What if the slander or bickbiting was by a person of the opposite gender? Like a sister back biting or slandering a brother or vice versa. and they are non-mahram to eachother so the one backbitin can not address the person. What should be done then? Is it better to just leave the situation alone?
NOTE: It is just that when a situation like this happens and the person who was talked about finds out, It could be something serious on the day of judgement MORE SERIOUS then in this dunya! Such as punishment upon the person who did it and their helpers or the person not forgiving the one who backbit him and so he can be stopped from crossing the siratul mustaqim! May Allah aide the salafis in correcting our characters and forgive us for our faults and sins!
This message was edited by Umm.Khadeejah on 3-13-04 @ 7:00 PM
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Abu 'Abdil 'Azeez Waseem ibn Abdirraheem Al Peshimaam
(Bangalore,India / Al Qaseem , K.S.A)
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al-Hamdu-Lillaahi Rabbil-'Aalameen was-Salaatu was-Salaamu 'alaa
Ashrafil-Anbiyaa?e wal-Mursaleen, wa ba'd:
as-Salaam 'alaykum wa-Rahmatullaahi wa-Barakaatuhu,
The following is the link to a very beneficial article by Umm Abdillaah Al Wadi'iyyaah
http://www.therighteouspath.com/ibaadah/Gheebah.pdf
wassalaamu 'alaykum
Wasim Ahmad ibn 'Abdurraheem ibn 'Abdulbaseer Salafi Alhindee
This message was edited by wasim.ahmed on 3-18-04 @ 5:47 AM
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