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Topic: Eating MacDonalds in USA and UK...?
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| aqeel.walker
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Salaamun 'alaykum. This is not exactly your question but it relates to the issue. It is taken from our site www.assalafi.com
Al-Imaam Ibn Baaz discusses meat imported from the lands of the disbelievers
Question: In reference to the meats that are imported from outside (i.e. outside of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia), and likewise the frozen chickens, which we do not know about their method of slaughter, since some of the scholars do not support purchasing them?
Answer: If the mentioned meats are imported from the lands of the People of the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians), it is lawful to eat them as long as you do not know something that proves its forbiddance. This is due to the statement of Allaah, far removed is He from imperfections:
"Today the good things have been made lawful for you, and the food (slaughtered meat) of those who have been given the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians) is lawful for you, and your food (slaughtered meat) is lawful for them." [Al-Maa'idah (5):5]
The fact that some of the slaughter houses in some of the lands of the People of the Book slaughter animals in a way that is not legislated, this does not neccessitate the forbiddance of the slaughtered meat that is imported from the lands of the People of the Book, until you know that this specific slaughtered meat (that you have) is from the slaughter house that slaughters in a way that is not legislated. Because the basic principle is that the meat is lawful and safe until something is known that contradicts that.
Ash-Shaikh 'Abdul-'Azeez bin 'Abdullah bin Baaz
Source: Al-Fataawaa min Kitaabid-Da'wah, Vol. 1, pp. 250-251.
Translated by Abu Sumayyah Aqeel Walker
قال الشيخ ابن باز الطائفة المنصورة هي الفرقة الناجية هما واحدة هم أهل السنة و الجماعة و هم السلفيون
This message was edited by aqeel.walker on 11-3-02 @ 1:56 AM
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Salaamun 'alaykum wa rahmatullaah,
Here is another fatwaa related to meat of the disbelievers by Shaikh Ibn Baaz (rahimahullaah). Baarakaallahu feek
was-salaamu 'alaykum
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Al-Imaam Ibn Baaz discusses meat of the People of the Book vs. the meat of other disbelievers
Question: Verily I am a Somalian student who studies in China and I face many difficulties concerning food in general and meats in specific. The problems are as follows:
1. Verily I heard before coming to China that the animals that the atheists slaughter, or it is more appropriate to say that they kill them, it is not permissible for the Muslim to eat them. We have a small restaurant at the university for the Muslims and in it are meats, but I am not certain that they have been slaughtered in the Islamic manner, and I have doubt about that, even though my friends do not have doubt like me. They eat from that meat. Are they correct or are they eating something Haraam (forbidden)?
2. In reference to the containers for cooking the food, there is no distinguishing between the containers of the Muslims and the cooking containers of people other than them (i.e. disbelievers). What is required of me to do concerning these matters?
Ibraaheem Alif. Baa. (his initials) - Somalian student
Answer: It is not permissible to eat the animals slaughtered by the disbelievers except for the People of the Book, from the Jews and the Christians. It makes no difference whether those other people are Majians, or idol worshippers, or Communists or other than them from the various types of disbelievers. It is also not permissible to eat whatever is mixed with their slaughtered animals, such as the broth (or gravy) and other than it. This is because Allaah, far removed is He from any imperfections, has not permitted for us any of the slaughtered meats of the disbelievers, except the slaughtered meat of the People of the Book. This occurs in His statement, the Mighty and Majestic:
"Today the good things have been made permissible for you and the food (slaughtered meat) of those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food (slaughtered meat) is lawful for them."
This is the fifth verse from Surah Al-Maa'idah. And their food is their slaughtered animals, just as Ibn 'Abbaas and others besides him have said. In reference to the fruits and similar foods (i.e. vegetables, fruit, grains, fish, and so forth), then there is no harm in them because they are not included in the prohibited food. In reference to the food of the Muslims, then it is permissible for the Muslims and other than them, if they (those who slaughtered it) are truly Muslims, who do not worship anything other than Allaah, nor do they call upon anyone else besides Him along with Him, such as Prophets, righteous people, people who are deceased in the graves and other than them from that which is worshiped by the disbelievers.
In reference to the cooking containers, then it is obligatory upon the Muslims that they have cooking containers other than the cooking containers of the disbelievers, which they use to cook their food and intoxicants and so forth. If the Muslims cannot find containers (specifically for their use), then it is obligatory upon the Muslims' cook to wash the containers that the disbelievers use, and then put the food of the Muslims in them. This is due to what is confirmed in the two Saheehs (Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim) on the authority of Aboo Tha'labah Al-Khashanee (radhiyallaahu 'anhu) that he asked the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) about eating from the containers of the polytheists. Thus, the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said to him, "Do not eat from them unless you cannot find anything else, then (if you can't find any other container) wash them (the disbelievers' containers) and eat from them."
Ash-Shaikh 'Abdul-'Azeez bin 'Abdullah bin Baaz
Source: Al-Fataawaa min Kitaabud-Da'wah, Vol. 1, pp.249-250.
Translated by Abu Sumayyah Aqeel Walker
www.assalafi.com
قال الشيخ ابن باز الطائفة المنصورة هي الفرقة الناجية هما واحدة هم أهل السنة و الجماعة و هم السلفيون
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Bismillah wal Alhamdulillahi rabil 'alameen, wa salaata wa salaam 'ala rasulillah.
Assalaamu 'alaikom
Regarding McDonalds meat, I have a friend who once worked in a McDonalds, and i asked him about whether the meat is halaal or not, as in how they cook it, and he informed me that all the beef is fried in the same grill as the bacon, and they dont clean it after each time they fry bacon in the grill. Also, the breakfast that includes eggs, its also fried in the same grill as the bacon. The Chicken and the Fish are safe (inshaa ALlah), and they dont fry them in that grill, but they use Vegetable shortening. ALso, the fries they either use Vegetable shortening or beef shortening.
So i dont in any way want to oppose the shaikh's fataawa, just as the Shaikh said "Because the basic principle is that the meat is lawful and safe until something is known that contradicts that." and if the meat is fried with the bacon, then obviously this contradicts the ruling that it is safe.
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