AbuShereen | -- 07-11-2009 @ 7:43 PM | ||||||||
As salaamu alaikum, I would like to know what has been said by the muhadithoon and other scholars regarding this dunya not lasting longer than 7000 years and the ummah of Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam) not existing past 1500 Hijri? I have a direct quote from a misguided individual by the name of Muhammad Shareef who translated some works of Uthman dan Fodiyo:
He goes on to bring forth other proofs from Abdur Rahmaan as-Suyooti as well as a couple more hadeeth to indicate that the Hour will be established no later than 1500 Hijri. Alhamdulillah, I haven't seen this individual for years, but his mark has still been left behind. Any evidence for or against these narrations would be much appreciated. Jazakumullahu khairan. Abu Shereen
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Moosaa | -- 12-11-2009 @ 8:32 AM | ||||||||
wa 'alaykumus-salaamu wa rahmatullaah.
1. Not only is al-Haakim's chain weak due to an unknown narrator who took the hadeeth from 'Ikrimah, the actual wording is: "When the Messenger of Allaah (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace) arrived in al-Madeenah, the Jews were saying that this worldly life will last 7000 years." This is attributed to Ibn 'Abbaas. Unless the intended hadeeth is another one in al-Haakim's book which I could not find, this hadeeth can not establish such a claim, since (if it were authentic) it is merely what the Jews were saying, with no mention of an approval from the Messenger of Allaah (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace). 2. I believe the "Tirmidhee" being referred to is al-Hakeem at-Tirmithee, not the famous "Imaam at-Tirmithee". There is a big difference. al-Hakeem at-Tirmithee [d.320] had a book called "Nawaadir al-Usool" with lots of weak and fabricated narrations. The scholars of hadeeth consider a hadeeth only referenced to his book to be an indication of its weakness. Al-Imaam at-Tirmithee (d.279) was a great imaam of hadeeth praised by the likes of Imaam al-Bukhaaree and the imaams of the third century. He judged the authenticity of the vast majority of the hadeeths he collected in his Jaami', commonly referred to as "Sunan at-Tirmithee". I say this because I could not find the hadeeth in Imaam at-Tirhmithee's book, yet I found it in al-Hakeem at-Tirmithee's book (2/36), without a chain. It is a long hadeeth with obvious signs of being fabricated, attributed to Aboo Hurayrah, from the Prophet (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace). Al-'Iraaqee declared the hadeeth to be weak in al-Mughnee fee Haml al-Asfaar. 3. Based on these two points, to judge the hadeeth to be sound is an obvious error, and Allaah knows best. Moreover, the hadeeth has been identified by the scholars as a fabrication. 4. Without going into further details about the other claims made, I will quote the words of Ibn Qayyim al-Jowziyyah from his book, al-Manaar al-Muneef (pp.80-83), where he discussed a number of guidelines that can be used to identify lies attributed to the Prophet (may Allaah raise his rank and grant him peace):
We can further verify the correctness of Ibn al-Qayyim's argument, "...Everyone would know that there can only remain 251 years!" since we are now living 680 years after he said that. I hope this helps clarify the falsehood of the claim in question, and Allaah knows best. Moosaa ibn John Richardson ******************** ıııııı ııııı ıııııı ıııı ıı ıı ııı ıı
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