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Topic: Is it a Condition to advise before refuting..? The People of Knowledge give the answer
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 uk_Salafi
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هل تشترط النصيحة
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الإمام المجدد العلامة عبد العزيز بن باز
الإمام المحدث محمد ناصر الدين الألباني
الإمام المجتهد محمد بن صالح العثيمين
الشيخ العلامة أحمد بن يحي النجمي
الإمام المحدث ربيع بن هادي المدخلي
الشيخ العلامة زيد بن هادي المدخلي
الشيخ العلامة عبيد بن عبد الله الجابري
الشيخ العلامة فالح بن نافع الحربي
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عن سليمان بن يسار أنّ رجلاً من بني غنيم يقال له : صَبيغ بن عِسْل قدم المدينة ، وكانت عنده كتب ، فجعل يسأل عن متشابه القرآن فبلغ ذلك عمر فبعث إليه وقد أعدّ له عراجين النخيل .
فلما دخل عليه جلس ، قال : من أنت ؟ .
قال : أنا عبد الله صَبيغ .
قال عمر : وأنا عبد الله عمر وأومأ عليه فجعل يضربه بتلك العراجين ، فما زال يضربه حتى شجّه وجعل الدم يسيل على وجهه .
فقال : حسبك يا أمير المؤمنين فقد والله ذهب الذي أجد في رأسـي .( ) اهـ
فهل ناصحه ا ؟؟! .
( شرح السنّة للالكائي ، 3/635-636 )
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source:http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=190566edcf738d610f6abc361ac2d697&threadid=298288
Hudhayfah ibn al-Yamaan radiallaahu 'anhu said. "The people used to ask the Messenger of Allaah sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam about the good, but I used to ask him about the evil for fear that it would overtake me ..."
This message was edited by uk_Salafi on 12-28-03 @ 7:13 PM
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| musa.ibn.wendell
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As salaamu alaikum wa rahmahtullah wa barakatu.
Could someone who can translate, translate the above InShaAllaah? Barak Allaahu Feekum. May Allaah Ta'Ala Reward The One Who Translates This With Good In This Life And Good In The Hereafter, Ameen.
As salaamu alaikum wa rahmahtullah.
Abu Musa Musa Ibn Wendell Ball Al Amriki
'Come and Sit With Us So That We Can Have Eaaman For An Hour'
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| oummou.assia
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bissmillahi ar rahmaani ar rahim
assalam alaykoum
it is the story of a man who came to madinah asking about the moutashaabihaat (unclear , ambiguous verses of the Qor'an). It was at the time of khalifah 'Omar (radi ALlahou 'anhou).
This last one, asked the name of the man, when he replied, he ('Omar) beat him directly up until the face of the man was bleeding.
then the man said: it is enough ya amir al mou-minin, wa Llahi, this which i found in my head is gone (now).
ya'ni this bid'ah about asking about the moutashaabihaat.
This shows that 'Omar (radi Allahou 'anhou) did not make any other nasseeha to him than beat him. This was his nasseeha regarding this situation, because what the man did was something really wrong, and 'Omar (radi Allahou 'anhou) juged that this was the most appropriate meaning to make him undertsand the severity of it, wa Allahou ta'ala a'laam.
In the sharh of kashf ash shoubouhaat, on salafipubs, in the foot notes, there are concise but great explanations about this sifah of the moubtadi' who use the moutashabihaat and leave aside the clear verses, to confuse minds, and take out from them the meaning that they will along their desires.
" al haqqou min rabbika" (Ali 'Imran).
Amina Le Joncour al-firanssiyyah as-salafiyyah.
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| musa.ibn.wendell
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Wa alaikum as salaam wa rahmahtullah wa barakatu wa maghfiratu.
Barak Allaahu Feekum.
As salaamu alaikum wa rahmahtullah wa barakatu.
Abu Musa Musa Ibn Wendell Ball Al Amriki
'Come and Sit With Us So That We Can Have Eaaman For An Hour'
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| uk_Salafi
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[url=http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=2970]Manhaj Question and Answers with Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee [/url]
Question 1: On Companionship and Giving Advice
Questions 5-7: Warning against disparaged people outside of their own cities, obligation of advice when it is required to be given, and listening to the recitations of the Innovators
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Hudhayfah ibn al-Yamaan radiallaahu 'anhu said. "The people used to ask the Messenger of Allaah sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam about the good, but I used to ask him about the evil for fear that it would overtake me ..."
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