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abdikarim321
07-10-2009 @ 2:40 PM    Notify Admin about this post
unspecified Abdul Karim (United Kingdom)
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As-salamu Alaikum

The book Kitab Al Kabair, are their any mistakes, weak and fabricated hadeeths which I should be aware of?,

Im currently trying to find an english translation for this book aswell. The only translation I have come across is by Mohammed Moinuddin Siddiqui, is any one familiar with his works, or this particular translation of Kitab Al Kabair, is it any good?

Jazakallahu Khair.


abdul.azeem
13-10-2009 @ 5:24 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Abd Ar Rahman Abd Al Adheem Ibn Faheem ibn Zia ibn Ma'een (KSA/ Bangalore, India)
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Are you referring to Imam adh-Dhahabee's work? I think there is a good checking of Shaykh Mash'hoor ~ I will confirm the details.

Shaykh Fawzan has an excellent explanation of Shaykh Muhammad bin Abd-al-Wahhab's work.

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abdikarim321
14-10-2009 @ 12:15 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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yes, it is by muhammed bin uthman adhahabi.

What is the best translation published, if their is any.

And are their mistakes in this book, that i should be aware of, or an explaination of it.

Jazakallahu Khair.

abdul.azeem
15-10-2009 @ 12:53 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Yes, your suspicion is intriguing because there are various different prints of kitaab "al-Kabaair" prevalent for past few decades that contain Qisas al-Waahiyaath (feeble ~ tales) and Ahadeeth al-Mawdoo'aat (fabricated ~ narrations) and this nuskhah is the one that is falsely ascribed to Imam adh-Dhahabee rahimahullah.



There are upto 16 different prints ~ To name a few :-


1. By Dar-us-Salam Bayrooth with checking of Abd-ar-Rahman Fakhree (1355 A.H.)

2. By Makthaba Jamhuriyya Misr (1978)

3. Makthaba ar-Riyaadh (1971)

4. Maktaba Tijariyyah Misr (1381)

5. By Makthaba al-Ma'aarif In Riyaadh (1990).


As for the one that which he has authored, free from any fabricated narrations or flimsy tales, then there are also several prints of this book with diverse checkings and as far as I know the one that Shaykh Mash'hoor Hasan has checked is the best. Allahu A'lam.

So let me know if the translator mentions which Arabic print has he used for his translation then I can let you know if it is the one that has been falsely ascribed to Imam adh-Dhahabee.

There are many works falsely ascribed to the Scholars of Jarh Wa Ta'deel especially those who were most severe upon the people of innovation and sects. [ See Kutub Hazzara Minhaa al-Ulamaa for more details]

Imam adh-Dhahabee is from those specialized scholars of hadeeth of highest repute and it is impossible for him to collect a book with fabricated narrations let alone weak and extremely weak ones.

One of the greatest rebuttal upon the one who ascribes this book filled with fabricated narrations to adh-Dhahabee is the fact that there were many other people way before him who had authored books on this very subject. For instance, Abu al-Layth as-Samarqandee al-Hanafee who authored, "Uqoobathu Ahl-il-Kabaair" which he summarized from his own famous and well known work " Tanbeehul-Ghaafileen" [Dhahabee ascribed this latter work to him in Taareekh al-Islam and infact it was as-Sam'aanee in "Al-ansaab" who preceded this claim which Dhahabee confirms in Siyar].
Dhahabee said in Siyar [16/323] under the biography of Abul-Layth al-Hanafee that several fabricated narrations are ascribed to him. And in Taareekh al-Islam Dhahabee said: [p.385]: "And in the book 'Tanbeeh al-Ghaafileen' there are abundant mawdoo'aat(fabricated narrations)"


So it is only an ignorant person or the one who is diseased would make such a claim upon Imam adh-Dhahabee.

Anyways, it would be very beneficial to expose all those who are printing and publishing these works in English. Similarly there is one more work called "Sharh al-Kabaair" which was originally written in Turkish and was latter translated into Arabic but it has nothing to do with the book of adh-Dhahabee rahimahullah.

Allahu A'lam!

Jazaka Allahu Khairan.

abdikarim321
02-11-2009 @ 3:08 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Jazakallahu Khairan, for your time.

It doesn't unfortunatly mention the original version the arabic text came from.

I tried to contact the publishers but their emails seem to be incorrect.

The arabic text is present in this translation, so perhaps if I can get hold of one of the publications that you mentioned, I can compare the 2, and see if the one I have has been tampered with.

So, inshallah let me know where I can purchase any of those you mentioned.

Barakallahu Feek.







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