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"Mukhtasir Bayaan Talbees Abil-Mihan al-Misree: Part 1

Concerning Ikhwan and Tabligh and Whether They Are From Ahl us-Sunnah and the Position of Imaam al-Albaani.

Introduction
This is a brief series, quickly refuting the deception and lies being spread from the words of Abul-Mihan al-Misree by his followers in the West. This Mubtadi' is now using whatever methods he can to save himself, and relying upon his ignorant followers to spread these shubuhaat.

Abul-Mihan al-Misree has replied to the refutation of him by Shaykh Muhammad al-Madkhalee concerning his position on Ikhwaan and whether they are from Ahl us-Sunnah or not, and in his reply he has again used talbees (deception) and lies, in order to confuse the Ummah and to beguile them, and then his followers in the West have propagated these lies.

So we say in response:

Summary of the Talbees: Shaykh Al-Albani does not make tabdee' of specific individuals who are attached to the Jamaa'aat like Ikhwan or Tabligh. Since, he differentiates between the manhaj of the individuals and manhaj of the Jamaa'ah, since in certain situations they might not be the same. Thus, al-Misree uses this (differentiation) in order move away from tabdee' of the Jamaa'ah and instead focus on "tabdee' of the manhaj". Notice this and pay very careful attention to it. When a person begins to say yes, the "manhaj" of the ikhwaan is innovated, astray etc., its shifts the focus away from the Jamaa'ah, and instead onto the actual details of the manhaj itself. Thus, we begin to say "the manhaj of Ikhwaan is innovated", and instead we tend to move away from saying, "the Ikhwaan are Innovators, upon innovation and misguidance, outside of Ahl us-Sunnah". So al-Misree has used some discussions of Shaykh al-Albaani in order to arrive at this particular understanding and ascribe it to Shaykh al-Albaani, without consideration of other statements of Shaykh al-Albaani in which he expels Ikhwaan from Ahl us-Sunnah.

What results does this have?

1) Absence of warning from the Jamaa'ah itself, by name.
2) Tending to consider it as a whole, not to be outside of Ahl us-Sunnah, since now the judgement is not placed upon the Jamaa'ah but upon its "manhaj".
3) Tending to move away from the manhaj of the Salaf in warning from individuals, and groups by name, and exposing them and refuting them, and instead speaking only broadly in terms of methodologies and creeds (thus, being able to avoid mention and warning of specific individuals or jamaa'aat).
4) Aiding the manhaj of Hassan al-Bannaa, the Ikhwaan in accommodating and showing ease to the Innovators

RESPONSE:

There are three distinct issues, and all of which are found in the words and various discussions of Imaam al-Albaani.

a) Not considering specific individuals amongst the Jamaa'ah to be innovators, due to the different motives found amongst them, since amongst them are i) those who subscribe to their beliefs and methodologies, working with and aiding the Jamaa'ah in its goals and objectives ii) those who entered them to correct and advise them, but without subscribing to the manhaj of the Jamaa'ah. Thus because of this we differentiate between individuals and the Jama'aah itself.

b) Considering the manhaj of the Jamaa'ah to be innovated.

c) Considering the Jamaa'ah as a whole, as an entity, to be outside of Ahl us-Sunnah, on account of what it has of innovation and misguidance. Al-Misree has conveniently left out what is found in the words of al-Albaani, where he expels Ikhwan as a whole from Ahl us-Sunnah. Here his speech is not about their "manhaj" but about the Jamaa'ah, itself, as an entity.

Shaikh al-Albaanee in many of his cassettes, and amongst his sayings is: "And I say then, that it is not correct for it to be said that al-Ikhwaan ul-Muslimeen are from Ahl us-Sunnah, because they fight against the Ahl us-Sunnah" [From the tape: Debate with a Suroori]. And he also said on the tape concerning Sayyid Qutb, "they (the Ikhwaan) wage a war against Tawheed".

(And Imaam Ibn Baaz considered the Ikhwan and Tabligh to be from the Seventy-Three sects, and Shaykh al-Fawzaan also considered every Jamaa'ah that opposes Ahl us-Sunnah, in aqeedah, manhaj etc. is from the Innovators.)

So a-Misree took a particular discussion (or discussions) in which al-Albaani is really speaking about tabdee' of specific individuals and guidelines concerning it, and that it is not absolutely the case that everyone within a Jamaa'ah is upon the manhaj of the Jamaa'ah (since he might have joined just to correct them), and then using these words to claim that this differentiation is indicative of al-Albanis' absolute and unrestricted viewpoint that Ikhwan are not outside of Ahl us-Sunnah.

This is talbees, since these discussions are related to judgements upon individuals, and differentiating between individuals, what they are upon, and what the manhaj of the Jamaa'ah is and that one might not be the same as the other (i.e. the manhaj of the Jamaa'ah and the manhaj of the indvidual). However, in numerous other discussions, Shaykh al-Albaani discusses another issue which is that Ikhwaan are actually outside of Ahl us-Sunnah, i.e. as a Jamaa'ah, as a group, as an entity. And this is what al-Misree wishes to avoid, or he is not too keen on this approach, and uses very watered-down, lenient approaches. Thus, he relied upon some discussions as opposed to others, so that it all fits into his false manhaj.

And this all fits in with the new wave of the Bannaawee assault which is to find ways and means to accommodate and defend the Innovators.

And in his reply to Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee, this is what was used by Al-Misree, in order to excuse himself.

Here are some quotes from Misree (dated 26/6/1423):


quote:

"When I came back from Amman, for a period of time I felt that the opinion of the Sheikh was correct. This was based upon the following ? that the problem and mistakes that they (ikwaan) were upon, I considered to be fardiyah (individual) and not manhajiyah (methodology). So I recorded a tape in Aden and Abyan with some students of knowledge and mentioned this issue to them. A while later, it became clear to me that we must differentiate between hukm over manhaj and hukm over afrad (individuals)."

quote:

"This is the opinion which I have been firm upon for many years, that there is a difference between manhaj (of a jammah) and afraad (individuals within that jammah)."

quote:

"So that manhaj (of the jammah) is a manhaj deviated from ahlul sunnah. As for the individuals, then each person is criticised by that which he deserves, after looking into his matter from all angles. So this is my position which is recorded on tape from a long time ago."

Note how he focuses on differentiating between the "manhaj" of a jamaa'ah and the "manhaj" of an individual, and then he restricts himself to this differentiation, without venturing into the third issue which is that the Jamaa'ah itself is outside of Ahl us-Sunnah because of its innovated manhaj. So there is the hukm over the individual, then over the manhaj, but what about the hukm over the Jamaa'ah itself?

Al-Misree has replied in such a manner so as to avoid any discussion of this last point, and this is what one generally finds in his speech concerning this subject.

So it is upon al-Misree to

a) Repent more clearly from his vague position
b) Speak with the speech of the scholars of Ahl us-Sunnah that Ikhwaan, as a Jamaa'ah, are Innovators, outside of Ahl us-Sunnah, and amongst the seventy-three sects - and with individuals amongst them it depends upon iqaamatul-hujjah - and not limit his speech just on "the manhaj" of these Jamaa'aat. Rather, he must speak about the Jamaa'aat themselves, as entities, groups, specifically.
c) Hold it forbidden to make co-operation with them and to be intimate with them, unless they return to the manhaj of the Salaf
d) To announce the error of what he has stated and make clear his recantation in words that are unambiguous.

And this is nothing more than what the Scholars of Ahl us-Sunnah have asked from him.

Inshaa'allaah more to follow..."








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