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Shaykh Muhammad Baazmool on His Brother's Refutations Against 'Alee al-Halabee
The following is a clarification of what some have claimed falsely in recent days that Shaykh Muhammad Baazmool is not in agreement with his brother's (i.e. Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool) refutations against 'Alee al-Halabee.
Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool stated,
"So I - Ahmad Ibn 'Umar Ibn Saalim Baazmool - say: Indeed, my brother, the Shaykh, the ustaadh, Dr. Muhammad Ibn 'Umar Ibn Saalim Baazmool telephoned me. And he thanked me for my refutation and praised it. And he said, "Maashaa' Allaah, very strong. May Allaah reward you with goodness."
He further commented,
And by Allaah, the words of the people of falsehood and desires did not cause me to move a hair's breadth. Rather, by Allaah I pity their condition and I ask Allaah to guide them.
And I smile whenever I see the stupidity of their intellects and their inferior condition.
And when the people of knowledge say that the speech of the ignoramus, as well as its absence, is not given any consideration, nor does it have any value, then what about the speech of the people of desires and innovations from the Ma'ribiyyeen and the Maghraawiyyeen and those who revile the mashaayikh of Salafiyyah? Rather, in reality, I consider their revilement of me a tazkiyah (praise) for me without them realizing it: I am not upon their corrupt manhaj, nor do I work with their stagnant principles.
And by Allaah, if the esteemed people of knowledge were to say, 'O Baazmool, be quiet, you are upon falsehood,' I would stop and I would recant and I would seek from them to direct me towards the correct position. However, the praise is for Allaah, I have continued to receive calls from the mashayikh and the students of knowledge with praise and vehement support for my refutations and they have instructed me to remain patient and to not pay any attention to the foolish ones and the ones who have deserted us.
So may Allaah reward our mashaayikh with the best of rewards. And may Allaah ward off every calamity from the Salafees. And I say with full clarity: Let them speak about me and my honour instead of infringing upon the manhaj of the Salafus-Saalih with tahreef (distortion) and instead of infringing upon our mashaayikh and our brothers, the Salafee students of knowledge with evil. And by Allaah, safeguarding myself against whatever has proceeded is more insignificant to me than everything else. Rather, it places me at the peak of happiness to see the truth being spread and becoming apparent to many of the people and to see the falsehood refuted in the face of the evildoer and in the eyes of the critic.
Shaykh Ahmad Ibn Yahyaa az-Zahraanee added to this,
I say in support of what the noble Shaykh, Dr. Ahmad Ibn 'Umar Baazmool - may Allaah reserve him - has mentioned:
I asked our Shaykh, Dr. Muhammad Ibn 'Umar Ibn Saalim Baazmool - may Allaah preserve him and raise his rank - on Sunday 28/1/1430H after he had finished his lesson in explanation of the Muwatta' of Imaam Maalik (d.179H) - may Allaah bestow His vast mercy upon him - about the refutations of Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool upon the book of Shaykh 'Alee al-Halabee - may Allaah guide him to the truth. So he replied:
"His refutation is based upon knowledge and strong. And I ask Allaah to grant him success and I ask Allaah to return Shaykh 'Alee al-Halabee to the truth."
Shaykh, al-'Allaamah Rabee' Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee on the Refutations of Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool against 'Alee al-Halabee:
Husayn al-Qalamee wrote on the Sahab Forums,
One of the students of knowledge asked Shaykh Rabee' Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee - may Allaah the Exalted preserve him - about his opinion concerning the refutations of Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool against Shaykh 'Alee Ibn Hasan al-Halabee and about the issues of al-Jarhul-Mufassar (the detailed, explained criticism), for which Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool has criticized Shaykh 'Alee al-Halabee. So he - may Allaah the Exalted preserve him - replied,
"I have read them and they are strong refutations - may Allaah reward him with goodness. Indeed, they (i.e. the refutations) have exposed affairs in which Shaykh 'Alee Ibn Hasan has erred. And he reached the correct position in them. And Shaykh Ahmad achieved correctness in criticizing Shaykh 'Alee Ibn Hasan on the issue of al-Jarhul-Mufassar."
And he (i.e. the student of knowledge) sought permission from Shaykh Rabee' Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee to spread his speech on the Salafee websites. So Shaykh Rabee' - may Allaah the Exalted preserve him - said,
"No problem. There is nothing to prevent that. This is the truth." End of Shaykh Rabee' al-Madkhalee's speech.
And the discussion with Shaykh Rabee' al-Madkhalee took place on Wednesday night, 2/2/1430H.
Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool further commented,
So I - Ahmad Ibn 'Umar Ibn Saalim Baazmool - say: What the brother quoted from Shaykh Rabee' Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee - may Allaah the Exalted preserve him - is true and correct. I asked the Shaykh about that and he affirmed it.
And I - Ahmad Ibn 'Umar Ibn Saalim Baazmool - add that my brother, the Shaykh, the Ustaadh, Dr. Muhammad Ibn 'Umar Ibn Saalim Baazmool called me and thanked me for my refutation and praised it. And he said, "Maashaa` Allaah, very strong. May Allaah reward you with good."
Concerning the Allegation of Aboo Haniyyah al-Maqdisee that Shaykh Muhammad Baazmool is not in agreement with Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool on the Refutations of 'Alee al-Halabee:
Ghaalib 'Aarif Nusayraat wrote,
"So I called our brother, the noble Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool - may Allaah preserve him - and asked him about the speech that Haniyyah related from his brother Muhammad Baazmool - may Allaah preserve him.
So he was very surprised at this speech. And he said to me, "Muhammad would never say the likes of this speech in this manner. Perhaps the one called Haniyyah did not quote the speech in totality. And I know that my brother Muhammad holds that Shaykh Rabee' - may Allaah the Exalted preserve him - is correct in his refutations against the opponent, except if the proof shows otherwise.
And he (i.e. Shaykh Muhammad Baazmool) holds that some of the methods these ones employed with the major Scholars were methods that are not befitting of the students of knowledge.
And he advised me not to enter into the troublesome affairs and to leave them for the major Scholars. They will refute the opponent and the one who has erred. And he advised me to safeguard my time against being pre-occupied with the abuses from some of the troublemakers who will enter into the topic if I speak about it.
Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool commented in reply to this,
So I - Ahmad Ibn 'Umar Baazmool - say: What the brother Ghaalib Nusayraat has written about me is exactly what happened between me and him (i.e. Shaykh Muhammad Baazmool).
And surely everyone knows that Shaykh Muhammad Ibn 'Umar Baazmool is my older brother - may Allaah reward him with goodness. He educated me and firmly established me since my early youth upon accepting the truth and not being bigoted towards individuals and upon recanting from falsehood and upon holding onto the madhhab of the Salafus-Saalih and upon respecting the major Scholars and upon not preceding them and upon refuting the opponent, regardless of who he may be.
And from the most distinctive attributes of my brother, Shaykh Muhammad is that he does not like how some of the troublemakers deal with the major Scholars. And there were many issues in the discussion between me and my brother, perhaps I will mention them.
As for what some of them have mentioned contrary to this speech, then I am absolutely certain that it is far from the truth. And Shaykh Muhammad is present; whosoever wants to, then let them call him. As for me, then I am not in need of calling him because I know with certainty that he is far from that stagnant manhaj.
Inshaa` Allaah, once the translation of Notification to the Intelligent About the Nonsensical Principles of 'Alee al-Halabee is complete, we will start a serialized translation of Shaykh Ahmad Baazmool's refutations of 'Alee al-Halabee.