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sajid_chauhan_81
11-01-2009 @ 5:53 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Allaah Subhaanu wa ta'aala says, "And when you see people engaged in vain discourse, then turn away from them unless they turn to different theme." - [Sooratul-Anýaam 6:68]


Imaam ash-Shawakaanee (d.1255H) said,  

And this aayah contains a severe reprimand for those who allow people to sit with the innovators, those who twist the Words of Allaah, play around with His Book, and the Sunnah of His Messenger (sallallaahu ýalayhi wa sallam). And refer them back to their own misleading desires and wicked innovations. Since, if he is unable to reprimand them and change them from what they are upon, then at the very least, he should avoid sitting with them ý and that is easy for him, not difficult.
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And the innovators may make use of his presence with them ý even though he may be free from their mistakes ý through a doubt by which they will beguile the common people, in which case his presence will cause an extra evil, in addition to just listening to their evil.


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May Allaah Azza wa jal guide us to As-Siraat al-Mustaqeem and unite the Ummah upon the correct manhaj. Aameen.

sajid_chauhan_81
02-02-2009 @ 6:16 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Similar threads on Salafitalk with more proofs on not mixing with Innovators and not encouraging people to mix with Innovators:-

http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7904

http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=23&Topic=7706

Dardan
11-02-2009 @ 3:40 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Maryam Dardan bin Saadri al-Albanee (Brisbane, Queensland, Australia)
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As-Salamu Alaikum!

I dont sit with the people of innovation in their gatherings when they call to bidah.

For instance in the tableghe gatherings, or the extreme sufi sect of berelewi, or the Takfiris or ihkhanul muslimeen.  

however, Is it permissible to stay with them in other occasions.   Is it permissible to go fishing with them for instance?  or play soccer with them? etc etc  

I live in a place where there is no Salafi community (Not that I know off)

Abu Maryam Al-Albanee






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