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Moosaa

25-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM

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Some people spend months or years advising the people of the sectarian groups such as Ikhwaan Al-Muslimeen, at-Tableegh, etc. whilst also sitting with them, using their proof that they are advising them. So is this what the Salaf were upon?

Answer by Shaykh 'Ubayd Al-Jaabiree:

http://salafipublications.com/sps/downloads/pdf/BDH050010.pdf

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sajid_chauhan_81

07-10-2009 @ 4:59 AM

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Also refer pg. 4 of http://www.troid.org/media/pdf/qandaconcerningmanhaj.pdf

sajid_chauhan_81

10-02-2010 @ 3:07 AM

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Allamah Ahmad an-Najmee rahimahullah was asked, "Noble Shaykh, there is a man who claims that he is Salafee. However, he sits with the hizbiyyeen. And we advised him about that, so he replied, 'I do it in order to instruct them and advise them.' So how do we judge this individual?"

So, he rahimahullah replied, "Advising them does not necessitate that you walk with them. And advising is done at certain times. As for you walking with them with the excuse that you are advising them, then if you were truly advising them, then a change would be seen in their actions and they would be different than what they used to be. So if you say - for example - that you are advising them and they are not listening to you, or they are not accepting it from you, then why do you sit with them, or travel with them and come and go with them? So if they do not listen to you, then do not come and go with them and do not sit with them. However, when we see that you are coming and going with them and you are sitting with them, then we come to know that you are from them.[1]

Question to [url=http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=19&Topic=8175]Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee[/url]: Shaykh, a person mixes with the opposers(of the Sunnah), is he to be aligned with them?!

Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee: Yes, he is to be aligned them.

Question: Does [giving] advice consume a long time?

Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee: No, it does not consume [lots of] time, it is in accordance with what a person sees, sometimes it can be in a [single] sitting, sometimes it could be in two sittings, sometimes it could be in three when that person has a shubhah (doubt, misconception), and sometimes it could be with [just] a word. This is in accordance with the situation of the one being advised, and the [nature] of the issue in which the one being advised is in.[2]

Finally, please read pages 18 and 19 of [url=http://sunnahpublishing.net/modules/Manhaj/siyaanah1.pdf]this[/url] pdf for a naseeha from [url=http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=5527&sortby=desc]Allamah Rabee' al-Madkhalee[/url].

Sources:-
1. pg. 17 of http://sunnahpublishing.net/modules/Manhaj/siyaanah1.pdf
2. http://spubs.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=MNJ01&articleID=MNJ010002&articlePages=1

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05-07-2010 @ 4:48 AM

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Shaykh Rabee' replies to a similar doubts on pg. 3 of [url=http://www.sunnahpublishing.net/modules/Manhaj/company.pdf]this[/url] pdf and also [url=http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=23&Topic=10490]here[/url].