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Saddat
14-03-2007 @ 10:09 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalumualikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuhum

Brother

I know one residing in Bangaladesh who is engaged in Hizb ut Tahrir. He says establishing khilafah is their main motto.

I have few ques on it:

1. Is establishing khilafah from the general body is permitted? if yes, what is their evidence?
2. Does Islam prohibits many rulers in many muslim nations? or, Does Islam says Muslim Nations should be under one single khilafah?
3. What are the criteria / evidence for khilafah?
4. How should a muslim ruler be chosen?
5. They use a Hadith saying anybody died without the oath of khilafah died in Jahiliya. What about the authenticity? What does the Hadith mean?
6. Is their any write up (available on line) refuting Hizb ut Tahrir points / principles.

saddat

ekbal.hussain
15-03-2007 @ 2:20 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Wa Alaikumus Salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

To find out more about this deviant Kharijite sect please read the articles here:

http://www.salafipublications.com/sps/sp.cfm?secID=GRV&subsecID=GRV03&loadpage=displaysubsection.cfm

This message was edited by ekbal.hussain on 3-15-07 @ 2:59 PM

SyedImran
15-03-2007 @ 4:10 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalamu Alikum wa rahmatullahi wa barkatuhu,

Akhi Saddat, May Allah Tayala preserve you us. I have lived in Bangladesh almost for 2 years from Sep. 2004 to feb. 2006. I am originally from Bangladesh but came to USA while I was 14 years of age. So I never knew the condition of the parties and so called Islamic parties untill the recent visit.

I have seen all these hizbiyoon very closely, Wallahi it is so confusing to be upon the haq in Bangladesh. Many times it can be very dangerous.  Most of the times you would have hide the fact that you are a salafi or the real ahlul hadith (not the ones in Bangladesh). ?Just keep your mouth shut?. One has to be always reading from the correct scholars and stay by himself in order not to get confused. I could not find good books in Bangladesh except for very few. There are few books translated in to Bengali but their translations are very bad and weak. Someone of the publication are Madanipublication, at tawheed publication should be avoided. Since they have mix with truth and falsehood. These publications publishing a lot of books of Al-Albaani (rahimahullah). I had a brother named Abusaadah Mohammad Hamad Billah (hafidullah), who is the only salafi Ahlul ilm that I know in Bangladesh to be upon clear Manhaj and in contact with Salafi scholars like . Sh. Rabee (hafidullah), Sh. Ubaid (hafidullah), Sh. Zayd Almadkhali (hafidullah) and others.  Also I could not find a masjid which is upon haq. They claim to be haq and would mention name of some of the salafi scholars. But beware akhi.

Walhamdulillah, Allah Azza wa Jalla has guided you and us to this website "salafitalk.net". I now it is not easy to receive books from abroad in to Bangladesh. Also it can be very expensive. In this case please read many E books on www.salafipublications.com and other website clear from falsehood.

Akhi, do you know many salafis in your area?  

Jazak Allah Tayala khairan,

Assalamu Alikum wa rahmatullahi wa barkatuhu

Abuubaid Al Bengali

ekbal.hussain
15-03-2007 @ 2:20 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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You can dowload the text of 'The three fundamental Principles' (al-Usool ath-Thalaatha) for free here:

http://www.freewebs.com/ahlussunnah/memorizationtools.htm

Saddat
20-03-2007 @ 6:59 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalumualikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuhu,

Brother Imran,

Thanks for your valuable comments. I have been facing the same problem u faced for 02 years. I haven't found a single one around me, who is competent. Most of the groups, there are Tablig, Jamiat Islami, Ahlul Hadith (they say, they formed a party for election - Insaf party).

It would be better for me if thery is any one for the guidance in Bangladesh, or on-line (any where). Because u know, in Bangladesh, most of the peopole follow, what their fathers followed, n what their teachers said. Blind following of Madhab is a common thing. I face severe problem on different fiqh topics, different issues. And above all the authenticity / evidence of info is the main prob to judge.


saddat

SyedImran
23-03-2007 @ 8:12 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Bismillah hirrahmanirrahim,

Assalamu ALikum wa rahmatullahi wa barkatuhu,

Akhi Saddat (May Allah Tayala preserve you and us, Ameen),

Barak Allah Tayala fikum. Akhi you should definitely get in touch our brother AbuSaadah  Mohammad Hamad Billah in Sylhet. Akhi, I have visited him at his home when I went to Bangladesh and akhi brother is a fighter of Islam for the sake of Allah Tayala, upholding Sunnah and Aqeedah of the Salaf. Abusaadah has many occasion advised the key memeber of Jamate Ihya AtThurat of Bangladesh "Assadullah Galib" and Delwar Hossain Saiyidi the follower of Jamate Islamiyyah, the misguider. But they rejected his call.

Akhi, I repeat, to be a good Muslim in Bangladesh, it is almost impossible unless Allah Tayala make it easy on whoever He wants. I say this because where would you go to seek knowledge, those who claim that they have studied in Madina University or Umm al Quraa, sat with scholars are not teaching people the truth, rather they work with the ikhwanis and Jihadis or Jamate Islamiyyah.

I had a conversation with a graduate of Madina University once. During our conversation he was praising the followers of Jamate Islamiyyah saying ?Followers of the Jamate Islamiyyah are correcting their aqeedah? but when I and my friend reminded him of their corruption in their manhaj, he remained quite. After several months I heard that the graduate of Madina University gotten worse as for his support for Jamate Islamiyyah. This is the condition.  During the fitnah of Jihadis, the "Ahlulhadith" (audubillah), Abusaadah was very active to clarify to the people regarding sunnah and Salafiyyah, that these people are not SALAFIS.  There were many threats against him due to this, at that time Abusaadah told me something, which left me amazed. He said:

"Akhi, this Dawah would not stop even if they kill me"


So if you want I can give you brother Abusaadah's phone number inshaallah. I hope this helps, bisnillah.

May Allah Tayala preserve our Muslim rulers and guide them to the truth. Truly You are the hearer of our Duas. Allahumma Ameen.

Assalamu Alikum wa rahmtaullahi wa barkatuhu

AbuUbaid Imran  


Saddat
25-03-2007 @ 3:36 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalumualikum wa Rahmatullah wa barakatuhu

Brother Imran,

You can give his phone no. U can send it to my mail address.



saddat

TajulIslam
10-03-2009 @ 2:49 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Asalamu Alaikum,

Syeed, I hope you are well. Please can you give me the contact details of the brother in sylhet. Im due to go there in a few months bi'idhnillah.

Your Brother

Abu Munir

aashraf
04-04-2009 @ 12:33 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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assalaamu 'alaykum,
I will be visiting Sylhet, Bangladesh soon insha'Allaah.  Can you pass me
Abu Saadah's email or let me know of any masjid (or madrasah, islaamic bookstore or any organistaion) that is upon the sunnah.






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