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Statements of the Scholars regarding
the Manhaj of
Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee


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Examples of the Manhaj of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath from their own statements!


  Here are just some of the many examples that show clearly the corrupt, misguided methodology of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath, the jam'iyyah of 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq.  Unfortunately, you find many of our Salafee brothers -even students of knowledge here in Kuwait(!) and in other lands (like Sa'oodiyyah), who have known their reality - now refusing to speak regarding them, even defending them, and in some cases even attacking those who refute and warn against this group from our Salafee mashayikh!
  
  So in order to illustrate the great danger of this group and its satellites spread in various parts of the world (like the Daar of Islaamic Heritage in Florida, and Turaaths centers in Qatar, Bahrain, Somalia etc.), we will cite, if Allaah wills, the sayings of the heads of this jam'iyah, as well as some of the sayings of the Salafee 'Ulamaa'regarding them.


At-Turaath and the Muslim Rulers

quote:

"two taagheets fell in a period of four months, and the rest of the tughaat do not cease to be sleeping in the honey!! ‎ So the Americans answer them by (saying) that all of the Arabic regimes are not Sharee'ah, and we are satisfied with what the Americans say[i.e. that the Arab regimes today are not Sharee'ah]."

Speaker: Waa'il al-Hasaawee
Source: Ar-Ra'iyy al-'Aam newspaper
Number: 13203
Date: 14/8/2003



quote:

"But the question that we do not find an answer to is regarding the reason for the weakness of the Arab and Islaamic peoples and their lack of ability to change their present situation on their own, and their helplessness to remove those rulers who are perched on their chests ‎"

Speaker: Waa'il al-Hasaawee
Source: Al-Furqaan magazine (the magazine of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath)
Number: 235, pg. 40
Date: 24/3/2003
                                                



quote:

"We say: it is wrong, O people of Tunisia and those who traverse upon their way! Don't go to the American Embassy (to protest)! Go to these palaces that are in them the (Muslim) leaders and presidents‎"

Speaker: Naadhim Sultaan al-Misbaah
Source: the cassette of Shaykh Ahmad as-Subay'ee "To our brothers in at-Turaath: Are al-Qaa'idah men?", in which Shaykh Ahmad ‎‎‎‎ ‎‎‎‎ plays quotes from Naadhim's own tapes!



quote:

"And that the Muslims in the early times used to enjoy the freedom of expression of their opinions and their taking their rulers to account, so why the surprise when‎."

Speaker: Ahmad Baaqir
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 28
Date: 1992



quote:

"I would like to advise the rulers to carry out what is waajib upon them in regards to the affair of commanding the right and forbidding the wrong because their negligence in carrying out this obligation could bring about negative effects that are tremendous‎"

Speaker: Naadhim Sultaan al-Misbaah
Source: Al-Qabas Newspaper
Number: 9628, pg. 35
Date: 11/4/2000
                                                





Shaykh Saalih bin Fawzaan al-Fawzaan was asked:
"Is it permissible to openly criticise the Muslim ruler in front of a gathering and the people?"

The Shaykh answered:
quote:

We have spoken about this issue many times before! It is not permissible to speak about the rulers because this brings about evil and differing in the society and it splits the unity of the Muslims and cause hatred between the ruler and the ruled. And this splitting and evil leads to rebellion against the ruler and the shedding of blood and matters which have blameworthy consequences.
So if you have a comment about them, take it to the ruler secretly by visiting him, if possible, or by writing to him or by informing someone who can convey it to the ruler as a sincere advice to him, and it should be done secretly not openly and this has been mentioned in the hadeeth, ‎Whoever wishes to advise the ruler, then let him not mention it in public, rather let him take the ruler by his hand. So if he listens then that is that, and if not then he has fulfilled that which was upon him.‎ And this meaning has been reported from the Messenger of Allaah (‎‎‎ ‎‎‎‎ ‎‎‎‎ ‎ ‎‎‎)."



And he also said:

quote:

"There is no doubt that the rulers, like other than them from mankind, are not infallible from error, so advising them is obligatory. However trying to reach out to them from the gatherings and the pulpits is considered to be the impermissible backbiting and it is a greater evil than the evil which emanates from the rulers because it is backbiting, and due to the fact that it implants fitnah and splitting of the ranks and it impacts the spreading of the dawah."



The Shaykh was also asked:
"What is the ruling regarding the one who disobeys the rulers or criticises them?"

quote:

"Whoever disobeys the command of the ruler then he has disobeyed the Messenger (‎‎‎ ‎‎‎‎ ‎‎‎‎ ‎ ‎‎‎). As long as the ruler does not order him with sinning, then disobedience of him is the disobedience of the Messenger (‎‎‎ ‎‎‎‎ ‎‎‎‎ ‎ ‎‎‎). Similarly if he criticises the ruler, then this is the madhhab of the Khawaarij who criticise the rulers, speak about them and incite the people against them. The young rabble who rose up against 'Uthmaan did not do so except due to the vile Ibn Saba‎. He began to speak in the gatherings and incite the people until the foolish people began to rage, and this ended in the killing of 'Uthmaan (‎‎‎ ‎‎‎‎ ‎‎‎). And what tribulations were the Muslims thrown into due to his killing? Things that would make the hair turn grey due the killing of the khaleefah and rebelling against him."



Refer to  ‎Al-Ijaabaatul-Muhimmah fee Mashaakilil-Mudlahimmah‎ which have been translated by our brother Abul-'Irbaad here.

  


Examples:

Here is an example of Turaath and how it deals with the rulers from their magazine Al-Furqaan . Pay attention to what 'Abdul-'Azeez al-Hiddah says!
[url=http://www.geocities.com/uthmaanb/furqaan_v286_p9]Turaath and Rulers - Exhibit  A[/url]


And here they openly accuse the Kuwaiti government of making the profit from Ribaa permissible on the front cover of their magazine!!
[url=http://www.geocities.com/uthmaanb/furqaan_v268_cover]Turaath and Rulers - Exhibit  B[/url]






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At-Turaath and the Raafidah Shee'ah


quote:

"Indeed the belief of Ahlus-Sunnah and the Sunnee ideology is not in contrast with the ideology of the Shee'ah. Rather we can say that the ideology of the Khawaarij is the ideology that is contrary to the Shee'ee ideology in its view of Imaam 'Alee (may Allaah be pleased with him and may Allaah ennoble his face)."

Speaker: Waa'il al-Hasaawee
Source: Al-Furqaan magazine (the magazine of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath)
Number: 95, pg. 21
Date: 1995


meaning: there is no contrast or opposition between the ideology of Ahlus-Sunnah and the Shee'ah. Rather, the Khawaarij are the ones who oppose the Shee'ah "in its view of Imaam 'Alee (may Allaah be pleased with him and may Allaah ennoble his face)."

quote:

"It is not permissible to split and separate between the sons of one society based upon madhhab. Rather, all of us are sons of this nation?"

Question: do you (i.e. Ahmad Baaqir) have constituents from the sect of the Shee'ah?
Answer: I have distinct relationships that tie me to the sons of my constituency from all sects...."

Speaker: Ahmad Baaqir
Source: Ar-Ra'ee Al-'Aam newspaper
Number: 13114, pg. 7
Date: 17/5/2003


* Ahmad Baaqir is a leading member of the "Islamic Salafi Alliance", member of Parliament since 1985, and former minister of Awqaaf and then minister of Justice. Hence the political answer!


quote:

"Perhaps it is the first time through "As-Siyaasah" I ask:

What is it that prevents the Sunnah (Sunnees) and shee'ah from praying in one masjid?"

He goes on: "Indeed He said, the Most High:
  "And indeed the masaajid are for Allaah (Alone), so do not call upon anyone along with Allaah."  [72:18]

And these masaajid, all of them are houses for Allaah ('Azza wa Jal).  And maybe there is in the unity of the masaajid economizing for the Muslims in regards to building the masaajid.  So with that I say that it is possible for the Sunnah to enter the masjid first due to the fact that the time of their prayers are earlier than the shee'ah, and they pray in congregation, then come the shee'ah and they pray. This is if they (the shee'ah) didn't want to pray with the Sunnah (Sunnees).

And there is in Bahrain many musalliyaat, in them the Sunnah pray in a place and the shee'ah in a place in the same musallaa. Then they leave from one door all together."

Speaker: 'Aadil al-Mu'aawadah
Source: As-Siyaasah Newspaper
Number: 12590
Date: 9/12/2003


* Maashaa'Allaah! Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it?! And just imagine how much money the Muslims could save if they prayed together with or in the same place as those who call upon al-Hussein, make Tawaaf around the grave of the khabeeth al-Khomeini and curse the Sahaabah! You can perform your prayer as the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) taught his noble Companions to pray, and the shaytaan next to you can curse them in his.   عجيب

Then he finishes by saying:
quote:

"And is there any problem in the prayer of the Sunnee behind the shee'ee or the shee'ee behind the Sunnee? The asl in regards to the Muslim is as-Salaamah, and there is nothing that prevents...."


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Examples:

Below is a newspaper clipping of Fahad al-Khannah (doctor of Sharee'ah and former MP, of the Salafee Islaamic Alliance) and Waleed at-Tabtabaa'ee (doctor of Sharee'ah and MP, of the Salafee Movement), both of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath, giving a talk with the Shee'ee Raafidee political group at-Tahaaluf al-Islaamee:
Turaath and Raafidah - exhibit A



Click below to see this add with Fahd al-Khannah of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath along with the Raafidee MP  'Adnaan Sayyid 'Abdus-Samad! This gathering was hosted by Dr. Naasir as-Saani' of Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen:
[url=http://www.geocities.com/uthmaanb/turaath_raafidah_ikhwaan3]Turaath and Raafidah - exhibit B[/url]





At-Turaath and Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen


quote:

"And in Kuwait there is coordination between the two most important Islaamic groups, and they are al-Ikhwaanul-Muslimoon and the Salafees [i.e. Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath], in numerous areas, like the field of Relief and collective work, even if what is needed is more than that?"

Speaker: Waa'il al-Hasaawee
Source: Al-Anbaa' Newspaper
Number: 6159 pg. 27
Date: 2/7/1993




* Now someone may say that this statement is old and perhaps his view is different now.  Let's look at what the same individual, Waa'il al-Hasaawee, the former Editor-in-Chief of Al-Furqaan (the magazine of Ihyaa'at-Turaath) and member of Turaaths board, has to say 10 years later:

quote:

"more than 30 years ago, there emerged the two biggest Islaamic groups in Kuwait. They are the group The (Islaamic) Constitutional Movement (ICM) [i.e. Ikhwaanul-Mujrimeen] and the Salaf (i.e. At-Turaath), and they were able by the blessing of Allaah the Most High to realize many achievements that there are no comparison to in the sphere of Kuwait, and they have earned the love and respect of all.  And these two groups have the ability to coordinate in that which is between them, and cooperation in many affairs, charitable and political affairs??  and joint coordination in elections and the functions of the Parliament, and coordination in the elections of the Teachers Committee and the Students Union and the coordination (related to) communication and other than it.  And there is no doubt that the aspiration of these two groups [Ikhwaan and Turaath] and those who love them is greater than that coordination.  We ask Allaah to bring about more."

Speaker: Waa'il al-Hasaawee
Source: Ar-Ra'ee Al-'Aam newspaper
Number: 13123
Date: 26/5/2003



  If one were to go back to the first ten issues of Al-Furqaan, and then take the last ten and compare them, he will not find any difference. Likewise if he were to take the last ten copies of Al-Mujtamaa', the magazine of Jam'iyyah al-Islaah (Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen) and compared them to the last ten issues of Al-Furqaan, he will not find any difference!
Such is the manhaj of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa'at-Turaath.

  And one will find that their manhaj in some issues is exactly the same as that of the Ikhwaan al-Mufliseen, as we will make clear in future posts إن شاء الله تعالى .


Inshaa'Allaah, we will continue to add sayings of their "mashayikh"and leaders (in affairs such as Takfeer, Hizbiyyah, the issue of Palestine, and their position towards Ahlul-Bid'ah) as well as the sayings of the Salafee scholars regarding them, so stay tuned!
And with Allaah is the tawfeeq.

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Examples:

Click below to see some of the heads of Turaath, like Khaalid Sultaan al-'Eesaa, 'Aadil as-Sar'aawee, Saalim an-Naashee and others, sitting in a gathering for the ICM (the political party of Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen in Kuwait):
[url=http://www.geocities.com/uthmaanb/8_turaath_ikhwaan]Turaath and Ikhwaan exhibit A[/url]

[url=http://www.geocities.com/uthmaanb/7_turaath_ikhwaan]Turaath and Ikhwaan exhibit B[/url]


And here we find this jam'iyyah bid'iyyah promoting the books of Ahmad Mansoor, the Editor-in-chief of Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen's Al-Mujtama' in Turaath's magazine Al-Furqaan:
[url=http://www.geocities.com/uthmaanb/furqaan_v72_p53]Turaath and Ikhwaan exhibit C[/url]

[url=http://www.geocities.com/uthmaanb/furqaan_v74_p49]Turaath and Ikhwaan exhibit D[/url]


And here Jam'iyyah Ihyaa'at-Turaath's president Taariq al-'Eesaa affirms the strong ties between Turaath and Ikhwaan:
[url=http://www.geocities.com/uthmaanb/syasah125]Turaatha and ikhwaan exhibit E[/url]







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At-Turaath claim that they are the Salafees of Kuwait


quote:

""Verily the Salafee Da'wah in Kuwait and the one who carries its flag is Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee, it is a blessed da'wah?."

Speaker: Statement by Al-Furqaan Magazine
Source: Al-Furqaan Magazine
Number: 92, pg. 6
Date: 1997



quote:

"Originally, the origin and ties of the Salafee Da'wah in Kuwait are tied to Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath."

Speaker: Khaalid as-Sultaan
Source: Al-Anbaa' Newspaper
Number: 9507
Date: 26/10/2002



* This is deception! If one were to look at what has preceded [Turaath and the Rulers, the Raafidah and Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen]- and inshaa'Allaah what will follow - one will see that this jam'iyah is not founded upon the blessed Salafee Da'wah! Ash-Shaykh, al-Waalid 'Ubayd bin 'Abdillaah al-Jaabiree حفظه الله تعالى said regarding Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath:

quote:

"...and Jam?iyyah Ihyaa? at-Turaath is deviant. And so that people will be fooled by it [by Turaath], it publishes some of the books of the Salaf, and it publishes alongside that the books of those who are astray, like Sayyid Qutb.

And know, O reader, that at-Turaath has never published a single refutation of Sayyid Qutb, nor does it cease to spread the books of their ideological founder 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq in their yearly camps and conferences, nor have they admitted that he has anything from Bid'ah! Rather they say, as we have heard with our own ears: "Yes, Shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan has some mistakes" - as if Takfeer, allowing multiple groups and parties, breaking Tawheedul-Haakimiyyah into a fourth independant category and cursing the 'Ulamaa'were simply mistakes!
But yet he does not cease to be their guide and teacher, as you find the Turaathee, Saalim an-Naashee saying:
"? and I quote here some priceless speech of our shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq from his well-known book ( Al-Haddul-Faasil baynal-eemaani wal-kufr )?"
[Al-Anbaa' Newspaper, Number: 13393, Date: 20/2/2004]


Shaykh 'Ubayd continues:
quote:

It also sends deputation?s in some direction they send Salafees and in some directions they send Qutubees or others. So it is a Jamaa?ah which plays a double game and which takes on two appearances. This is a strategy they employ to gain people.

But the true Jamaa?ah which it is obligatory that every Muslim be under its banner even though they live in different areas, is the Salafee Jamaa?ah. So the Salafee Jamaa?ah, O my sons, was not founded by anyone. It was not founded by Muhammad Ibn ?Abdul-Wahhaab in Najd, nor before him Ibnul-Qayyim, nor Ibn Taymiyyah before them, nor Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, nor ash-Shaafi?ee, nor Maalik, nor Aboo Haneefah, nor the Companions, nor the Taabi?een and those after them, such as the four Imaams of the Taabi?een and those after them, nor before them Muhammad (sallallaahu ?alayhi wa sallam). Rather it is from Allaah. So as-Salafiyyah is the Religion in its pure state, the pure Religion since it does not take its principle except from the Book, the Sunnah, and the Ijmaa? (consensus) of the Salafus-Saalih: the Companions, the Imaams of the Taabi?een and those after them, such as the four Imaams, and al-Awzaa?ee, and the two Sufyaans and the two Hammaads, and others.

Source: TROID
Date: Dhul-Qa?dah 1417H





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Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee al-Madkhalee on the manhaj of at-Turaath


Shaykh (Dr.) Muhammad bin Haadee says:

quote:

"And this (question) says: Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath has efforts in the field of da'wah in the Mamlakah [the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia], and what do you know about this jam'iyyah? Is it established upon the Salafee manhaj?

(Answer: ) No, by Allaah! It is not upon the Salafee manhaj! By Allaah it is upon the Ikhwaanee manhaj, firmly established.  
And its people fluctuate.  And those who we know from them (at-Turaath), it is not permissible for us to leave them (without criticism), due to the condition of those who have praised them (from the scholars), from those to whom they (at-Turaath) have beautified themselves, while they (those who have praised them) do not know them.
For indeed, Allaah سبحانه و تعالى did not burden us except with what we have knowledge of, and this jam'iyyah is hizbee.

And they have the bay'ah (pledge of allegiance), and they call it "al-'ahd" (the pledge) or "taa'atul-mas'ool" (obedience to those in charge).  And look at them in their stances (that they take).

And wherever they go in the East or West in the Islaamic world and other than the Islaamic (world), you do not find them except that they divide the Salafee callers. They do not unite (people together) and they only come to the Salafee gatherings then divide them.  And that is because of the wealth that is with them. And we ask Allaah for well-being and protection.

And I, indeed I have spoken regarding this in many tapes, I have regarding this ? meaning ? speech in two tapes in Kuwait with them. So the point is, 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq, he is not unknown to us nor unknown to all of you, and he is their shaykh up until this very hour ? even if they try to distance (him) from themselves.  So we ask Allaah for well-being and protection. And speech regarding him is long but I will suffice with this."


Aameen!
May Allaah reward the Shaykh.

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i remember sheikh Muhammad al-Banna had said that this jamaa'aah whereever they go, they split the salafees, and their leader Abdulrahman Abdulkhaaliq went to visit sheikh Muhammad al Banna but sheikh did not allow him to come into his house until he took back his errors of calling for the cooperation of the misguided groups and speaking ill of the mashayakh such as sheikh Rabee'. Until today he has not taken back his errors.

You will find Ihyaa Turaath, Ahlul Hadeeth UK, Ikhwaani da'wa all cooperating with eachother in the name of Islaah bringing good. Even though they amongst themselves have diverse errors. Each of them playing politics with eachother as Sheikh Ubayd said misguiding the youths. Regarding Ihyaah turath, we have been advised by sheikh Ubayd al-Jaabiree, Sheikh Rabee', Sheikh Muhamaad al-Banna, sheikh Muhammad ibn Haadi the mashayakh of Kuwait who know them first hand as well such as Sheikh Falah Islaeel, sheikh Muhammad al-Anjaaree and other mashayakh to leave them and not cooperate with them. They have brought the haq and proofs with regards this group and that it is upon misguidance.  

May Allaah guide us all to the straight path, ameen.

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قال الشيخ السعدي - رحمه الله - في تفسيره (3/31): " فلا يحرف محرف معنى من معانيه( القرآن ) إلا وقيض  الله له من يبين الحق المبين وهذا من أعظم آيات الله ونعمه على عباده المؤمنين".

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The heads of 'Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith UK' have clearly stated that they are with the Kuwaiti 'Jam'iyyah Ihyaa Turaath Al-Islaamee'in Manhaj and doctrine


In an interview with al-Furqaan Magazine (in Arabic), Shuaib Ahmed of the 'Jamiat ahl-e-hadith' states that it is obligatory to co-operate with the Jam'iyyah Ihyaa Turaath Al-Islaamee and that there manhaj and doctrine is the same!

This 'Ihyaa Turaath' and Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul-Khaaliq has been refutated in detail by many scholars and shaykhs including Shaykh Muqbil bin Haadee, Shaykh 'Ubayd Al-Jaabiree, Shaykh Ahmad Subaa'ee, Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee, Shaykh Falaah bin Ismaa'eel, Shaykh Yahyah Al-Haajooree, Shaykh Muhammad al-Anjaree, Shaykh Muhammad al-Wasaabee, etc. Some of these tapes and articles are available from Salafi Publications. And the proofs against them are numerous as mentioned by our brother above, and the Salafis are people of evidence and proofs.

Someone came to Shaykh Falaah bin Ismaa'eel in Birmingham regarding such groups saying: "These groups (such as Ihyaa Turaath, Ahl-e-Hadith UK) are not deviated because they establish tele-links with the Salafi scholars!" The Shaykh replied (abridged): "Why do you not also say along with that that these groups set up links, conferences, lectures, panel sessions and much more than with ahlul-bid'ah, with the Shee'ah, with the Raafidhah, with the Grave-worshipping Soofees, with Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen, with the Qutubees, with the people of deviated political ideologies with the Marxists and callers to other faiths?! Why do you not proclaim that likewise? Is it not true that they do that also?" The brother replied: "Yes they do." So Shaykh replied, "Then where is their jealousy for the Sunnah and their love for it and their allegiance to it?!"

Click BELOW to see the proof from Al-Furqaan Magazine of Kuwait showing that 'Jamiat ahl-e-hadith' and 'Jam'iyyah Ihyaa Turaath' are on the same manhaj (see 'Deviation No. 6):

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=3384



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Jam'iyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath and Ahlul-Bid'ah

  at-Turaath on their shaykh, 'Abdur-Rahmaan bin  'Abdul-Khaaliq


Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee حفظه الله تعالى mentions in what we posted  previously:

quote:

So the point is, 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq, he is not unknown to us nor unknown to all of you, and he is their shaykh up until this very hour ? even if they try to distance (him) from themselves."


If we look to the actions and speech of those who hold onto this jam'iyyah, we will find that what the Shaykh mentioned above is directly on the mark, as can be seen from their own speech:


quote:

"...and I quote here some priceless speech of our shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq from his well-known book Al-Haddul-faasil baynal-eemaani wal-kufr..."

Speaker: Saalim an-Naashee
Source: Al-Anbaa' Newspaper
Number: 13393
Date: 20/2/2004



quote:

"...and we did not see any apology from Dr. Muhammad Sulaymaan al-Ashqaar in regards to what came unexpectedly from him in regards to the noble companion Aboo Bakrah ath-Thaqqafee, the freed-slave of the Messenger of Allaah (صلى الله عليه و سلم), despite what was spread from a wise refutation of the shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq and brother Ahmad al-Fahd [a surooree here in Kuwait]...."

Speaker: Dr. Mubaarak Sayf al-Haajiree (Sharee'ah, Kuwait University)
Source: Al-Watan Newspaper
Number: 10180/4626
Date: 8/6/2004

   Note * extracted from Talkheesul-Fikrah bi-takhleesi-Sahaabee-jaleeli Abee Bakrah of 'Alee Hasan 'Abdul-Hameed (pg.83) and the numbering of the quote is as he mentioned in the footnote.



  at-Turaath on Muhammad Suroor

quote:

"the shaykh Muhammad Zaynul-'Aabideen is from the few du'aat that have taken upon themselves the covenant to adopt the affairs of the Ummah and it's defense..."

Speaker: Al-Furqaan Magazine - a discussion with "shaykh" Muhammad Suroor
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 29, pg. 8
Date: 1992


* Muhammad Suroor is the same individual who said that "the books of the Salaf are dry, because they are nothing but nusoos (texts from the Qur'aan and Sunnah)...". Shaykh Muhammad Amaan رحمه الله تعالى used to refute him repeatedly in his daroos due to this statement. And here he has adopted "the affairs of the Ummah and it's defense"!?



  at-Turaath on the deviant innovator Ahmad Yaseen

quote:

"Verily shaykh Ahmad Yaaseen, founder of the Hamas movement, was a man who was courageous, a leader, a muslim. He was able to kindle the spirit of jihaad amongst the peoples of Palestine?"

Speaker:  Muhammad ad-Du'ayj
Source: Al-Furqaan magazine
Number: 288
Date: 12/4/2004



quote:

"So the audacity of the criminal Sharon in the assassination of the  shaykh of the mujaahideen Ahmad Yaseen?"

Speaker:  Waa'il al-Hasaawee
Source: Ar-Ra'iyy al-'Aam newspaper
Number: 13427
Date: 25/2/2004




  at-Turaath on Sayyid Qutb

quote:

""As for Sayyid Qutb, then indeed he was passionate about presenting the goals and basic principles of every soorah before beginning in it's tafseer in his book Fee Thilaalil-Qur'aan?"

Speaker:  Adnaan 'Abdul-Qaadir
Source: Mukhtasar min nathril-maasi wad-darari fee Turuqil-bahthi 'an muqaasidis-Suwar
Pages: 6-7
Date: 2004



* ash-Shaykh, al-'Allaamah Muhammad bin Saalih al-'Uthaymeen رحمه الله said:
"I read his tafseer from the book Fee Thilaalil-Qur'aan of Sayyid Qutb of Sooratul-Ikhlaas, and indeed he said a tremendous statement regarding it, in opposition to what Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah are upon. Verily his tafseer of it proves that he speaks with wahdatul-wujood."
[Ad-Da'wah magazine, #1591, Muharram 1418. Then the Shaykh signed it with the date 24/2/1421H]



  at-Turaath on Yoosuf al-Qaradaawee

quote:

"we thank you for your sweet-smelling letter and we hope for an increase in communication between us regarding the treaty with the Jews that was published in the magazine Al-Muslimoon  and the response of shaykh Yoosuf al-Qaradaawee that was published in the magazine Al-Mujtama' . So we request (that you) refer (back) to them....  "

Speaker:  the magazine
Source: Al-Furqaan
Pages: 59, pg. 65
Date: 1995



* these magazines are both Ikhwaanee magazines that Turaath are recommending the people to refer back to!


  at-Turaath on 'Adnaan 'Uroor

quote:

""So Allaah sent him men, the likes of shaykh 'Adnaan 'Uroor and the 'ulamaa' from the Mamlakah and others?. "

Speaker: Al-Furqaan
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 281
Date: 23/2/2004






نسأل الله السلامة و العافية

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We have added a few statements and some links to pictures related to this jam'iyyah to some of the sections posted previously (such as Turaath and the Raafidah and Turaath and Ikhwaan) for extra benefit.
Links to the pictures are in blue.

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CLARIFICATION!

There is a point that needs to be clarified, as some of our brothers have pointed out, regarding what our brother Abdulilah - بارك الله فيه - mentioned in his post when he said:

quote:

"Regarding Ihyaah turath, we have been advised by sheikh Ubayd al-Jaabiree, Sheikh Rabee', Sheikh Muhamaad al-Banna, sheikh Muhammad ibn Haadi the mashayakh of Kuwait who know them first hand as well such as Sheikh Falah Islaeel, sheikh Muhammad al-Anjaaree and other mashayakh to leave them and not cooperate with them. They have brought the haq and proofs with regards this group and that it is upon misguidance."
-end of quote-



  Now there are some people who may misunderstand what Abdulilah- جزاه الله خيرا - said above and take it to mean that "the mashayikh have spoken regarding Ihyaa' at-Turaath and have brought the proofs against them, so there is no further need to speak about them".  
This is a shubhah that some have begun to spread, one of them (here in Kuwait) started with this shubhah and eventually went so far as to say that the mukhaalafaat of Turaath are mistakes, not Bid'ah!!??  
Can you imagine even for a second that all of what we have posted so far, Ihyaa' at-Turaath openly criticizing the Rulers, their sitting with the Raafidah Shee'ah and Ikhwaanul-Mujrimeen and their cooperation with them, their praising the best known leaders of bid'ah in our time (like Sayyid Qutb, Muhammad Suroor, Ibn Laaden and al-Qaradaawee) and their continuing link with 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq (whom Shaykh Muqbil and Shaykh Falaah Ismaa'eel have declared to be a mubtad'i), are all simply mistakes??

Then what about their splitting the callers and overtaking their centers with their "divide and conquer" methodology and their vast wealth??  And their calls to petitions and protests?  Are these only mistakes too, or are they innovations that our noble 'Ulamaa' have exposed and warned against?! What about their making takfeer of the rulers, their vile speech regarding our Salafee 'Ulamaa' and their claiming that shooraa in Islaam is binding? All mistakes, too??

As for what some of these people claim, that "the mashayikh have spoken regarding Ihyaa' at-Turaath and have brought the proofs against them, so there is no further need to speak about them", then this shubhah is answered by what follows:


  • Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath have not stopped their activities for one day.  They continue to spread the books of their shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq outside of Kuwait, like in as-Sudaan where our Shaykh Muhammad al-'Anjaree saw a semi trailer full of his books for distribution! Just look at the last ten issues of their weekly magazine Al-Furqaan and you will see clearly that nothing has changed with them!

  • Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath is presently opening new centers and herding the unsuspecting youth towards them in Qatar and Oman. Just recently we had a group of brothers drive from Oman to Kuwait to sit with Shaykh al-' Anjaree for advice and clarification on Turaath.  The Shaykh - حفظه الله- also went not too long back to Qatar to visit one of the centers there to clarify these issues. Likewise they have opened offices in  places as far away as southern Thailand.  So Turaath are not dead, nor are their da'wah efforts! Rather they are trying to spread out to new areas!  One should not be duped into thinking that everyone knows about them. Rather Turaath also find ways to weasel out of the proof that has been established against them and make it look like they have changed (like how they distance themselves from 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq). And Turaath still spends millions every year to send their "du'aat" through the world to spread their da'wah.

  • Then they have their lajaanul-qaariyyah which focus on different parts of the world. Take for example their lajnah for India, which covers India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Through this lajnah, Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath support Jam'iah Ahlul-Hadeeth in India and build centers and masaajid and support the students, like they have done in the city of Malegaon. Just last year, Taariq al-'Eesaa, president of Ihyaa' at-Turaath, went there in person for a conference.
    They also have connections in Sri Lanka as we have seen first hand.
    Jam'iyyah Ahlu-Hadeeth and Jami'yyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath

  • Turaath also has lijaan for Australia, America and Europe and spread their books in these countries. They boast of more than 20 translated and published books (many of them by 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq), and more than 50,000 sold and distributed. Two years ago this lajnah brought to Kuwait none other than Abu Muslimah (yes, Abu Muslimah from East Orange, NJ, the one Shaykh Rabee' called a liar and a hizbee!!) for a series of lectures. Birds of a feather...

  • And of course you have their activities inside Saudia Arabia, like their providing $$$ to the poor students in the Jam'iyah in al-Madeenah, to such extent that you find some of them won't speak against this jam'iyyah and thus "bite the hand that feeds them".  This is how they use the sadaqaat that they collect from the people. We have heard some of the Kuwait students studying al-Madeenah mention this and more.

    And there is much more that can be mentioned.


    Likewise, in repelling this shubhah, we see that our Salafee mashayikh have not ceased to refute Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath up to this day!! The speech of Shaykh Rabee'  that begins this thread is from just over 6 months ago. Shaykh 'Ubayd and Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee continue to speak against them.  Shaykh Taariq as-Subay'ee, Shaykh Falaah Ismaa'eel, Shaykh Ahmad as-Subay'ee and Shaykh al-'Anjaree here in Kuwait continue to give da'wah to the people and clarify the issue of Turaath to the Salafee youth to the extent that (و الحمد لله) we have seen many young brothers leave them - may Allaah preserve them and reward all of them with good. But this shows that the war between Haqq and baatil hasn't stopped.

    The noble shaykh and 'Allaamah, the father, Shaykh Rabee'  bin Haadee حفظه الله تعالى makes a beautiful statement in his book Raddu kullil-munkaraat wal-ahwaa' wal-akhtaa'i manhajun shar'ee.. when he said:

    quote:

    "So indeed the struggle between Truth and falsehood, and Guidance and misguidance is old and deep-rooted in ancient times and is unceasing. It has not stopped till this very day and will not stop until the establishment of the Hour!


    Then the Shaykh goes on to mention how refuting the people of innovation is an obligation and the statements of the Salaf in that regard and how the one who who struggles against them is a mujaahid. Shaykh Rabee'  says:

    quote:

    "and it is obligatory upon the Ummah to strike with an iron hand the people of innovation and evil, those who lead by their misguidance and their evil to the destruction of the Ummah in its deen and its dunyaa.

    And indeed the Messenger (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) considered commanding the right and forbidding the wrong jihaad. So it is narrated from Ibn Mas'ood (radiyallaahu 'anhu): that the Messenger of Allaah (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) said:
    (("There was no prophet sent by Allaah to a nation before me except that he had helpers and companions who took hold of his sunnah and carried out his commands. Then there came after them successors who say what they do not do, and do what they were not commanded (to do). So whoever strives against them with his hand, then he is a believer, and whoever strives against them with his tongue then he is a believer, and whoever strives against them with his heart then he is a believer, and there is not after that even the equivalent of a mustard seed from Eemaan.")) Muslim, pg.80
      
    And from this Imaam Yahyaa bin Yahyaa said: "Defending the Sunnah is better than striking (the enemy) with the swords."

    And Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah said: "The one who refutes the people of innovation is a mujaahid."

    And when misguidance appeared just as the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) informed, with the like of his saying:
    (("The Jews split into seventy-one sects, and the Christians split into seventy-two sects, and my Ummah will split into seventy-three sects, all of them in the Fire except one." They said: Who is it, O Messenger of Allaah? He said: "The Jamaa'ah!"))
    And in another narration from the versions of this hadeeth:
    (("Whoever was upon what I and my Companions are upon."))

    And like his saying:
    (("You will follow the ways of those who came before you just like the arrow resembles another arrow, so much so that if they were to enter the hole of a lizard you would also enter it." It was said: The Jews and the Christians, O Messenger of Allaah? He said: "Yes!"))

    There confronted and opposed these groups- individuals and jamaa'aat -  imaams of Guidance and signposts in the darkness from the choicest of this Ummah. So they refuted their falsehood and misguidance. So they [the people of innovation] did not come with something from misguidance, nor a doubt except that they refuted it and clarified it's falsity, and clarified the Haqq with a clarification that was clear and following the Qur'aan and Sunnah in showing the falsness of falsehood and it's destruction, and manifesting the Haqq.  

    And indeed their actions and their jihaad in repelling the mukhaalafaat, and clarification of the condition of its people, and clarification of the great distance of these mukhaalafaat from the guidance of the Book and the Sunnah, and clarification of the rulings of these mukhaalafaat and the rulings of its people from declaring them to be innovators and making inkaar upon them has been recorded.

    Indeed they carried out this clarification based upon naseehah to Allaah and His Book and His Messenger and the leaders of the Muslims and their common folk, and preservation of their deen in numerous books, whether it was in the field of  'Aqeedah, like in the books of  'Aqaa'id, or Ahkaam, like in the books of Fiqh and explanation of Hadeeth, and in the category of the narrations and conveying the Sunnah from Allaah's Messenger (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) like in the books of Rijaal and 'Illal,  and the books in that are in that are innumerable.

    And perhaps regarding one error tens of  Imaams would speak and about the corrupt 'aqeedah likewise, and in the narrator (of hadeeth) tens of Imaams.  And perhaps one man would have tens of innovations and one of the 'Ulamaa' would oppose him. So he would rebut them one by one with proofs and evidences?." (ppg.24-27)



    And the Shaykh said:
    quote:

    "And perhaps a group would have tens of innovations, so one of the 'Ulamaa' would oppose them, and he would not leave a single one of them. And perhaps a great number of the 'Ulamaa' would oppose it, each one striving hard in debating their misguidance, and the examples of that are many."  (pg.28)



    So look at the manhaj of Ahlus-Sunnah, ikhwaan! Look at how they strove in clarifying the Haqq and repelling the baatil out of naseehah to Allaah and His Deen! And then look to these masaakeen who refuse to speak about the people of innovation, Turaath and other than them, based upon these types of shubuhaat.  Is this our manhaj, to remain quiet and let them continue in their calling to misguidance?!
    By Allaah, yaa ikhwaan, the war between Haqq and Baatil is not over!!
    So بإذن الله you will find the Salafees continue to refute the likes of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath, with clear proofs and evidences, because one of the greatest fitan that we face today is the mixing of falsehood and bid'ah with the Sunnah.


    This is what we have by way of trying to clarify this shubhah and hope that it is clear, and all success is from Allaah.

    We ask Allaah تبارك و تعالى make us firm upon the Truth and it's defense and make us from those mujaahideen who defend His Deen, and protect us from the fitnah of these types of shubuhaat and those who carry them.


    و صلى الله على نبينا محمد و على آله و صحبه أجمعين

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    Aboo Sufyaan 'Uthmaan Beecher
    Kuwait
    أبو سفيان عثمان بيشر الأمريكي



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    Ibn Taahir al-Maqdisee al-Haafidh said, "I heard the Imaam, Aboo Ismaa'eel 'Abdullaah bin Muhammad al-Ansaaree saying, while he was in Haraah:
    'The sword was put to my neck five times [and each time] it was not said to me, 'Leave your madhhab' but it was said to me, 'Remain silent about those who are in opposition to you'. So I would say, 'I will not remain silent'."
    [Aadaab us-Sharee'ah (1/207) of Ibn Muflih]



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Adnaan Abdul-Qaadir in Birmingham - A Bed Of Thorns?


Adnaan Abdul-Qaadir is due in Birmingham in person this week being promoted and hosted by Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith (Green Lane) under the title: "A Bed Of Roses". Above, our brother Abu Sufyaan has quoted this Adnaan Abdul-Qaadir:

At-Turaath on Sayyid Qutb

quote:

"As for Sayyid Qutb, then indeed he was passionate about presenting the goals and basic principles of every soorah before beginning in it's tafseer in his book 'Fee Thilaalil-Qur'aan'?"

Speaker:  Adnaan 'Abdul-Qaadir
Source: 'Mukhtasar min nathril-maasi wad-darari fee Turuqil-bahthi 'an muqaasidis-Suwar'
Pages: 6-7
Date: 2004


So this is yet another example of this alliance of falsehood.
As for the true scholarly position on Sayyid Qutb just visit:

>>DEVIATIONS OF SAYYID QUTB<<



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Examples from Al-Furqaan Magazine مجلة الفرقان , the magazine of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath

Here are ten covers from Al-Furqaan, the weekly magazine published by Turaath. Do you see on them the manhaj of Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez bin Baaz, Shaykh Naasiruddeen Al-Albaanee and Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-'Uthaymeen?! Or do you see the same things that you find plastered on the covers of the magazines of Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen?
          

        
cover 4   [url=http://www.al-forqan.net/photo/SCAN397-1.jpg]cover 5[/url]   [url=http://www.al-forqan.net/photo/SCAN396-1.jpg]cover 6[/url]   [url=http://www.al-forqan.net/photo/SCAN395-1.jpg]cover 7[/url]   [url=http://www.al-forqan.net/photo/SCAN394-1.jpg]cover 8[/url]   [url=http://www.al-forqan.net/photo/SCAN393-1.jpg]cover 9[/url]   [url=http://www.al-forqan.net/photo/SCAN398-1.jpg]cover 10[/url]



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Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath and the issue of Palestine


  Indeed one will find that the heads of Turaath love to open their mouths when the issue of Palestine comes up, as we shall see إن شاء الله, but before mentioning their statements, it might be good, without going into a history lesson, to mention a few basic facts regarding the issue of Palestine and the Intifaadah (Uprising):

  • The Palestinian uprising, or Intifaadah, began in early December 1987. It is reported that an Israeli man was stabbed to death by a Palestinian, and a few days later, 4 Palestinians were struck by a vehicle and killed. This sparked protests which, as protests normally do, led to bloodshed. Add to that the mass discontent of the Palestinian people due to high unemployment, a growing population, and general mistreatment at the hands of Israel. Thus began the first Intifaadah, a mass uprising against the Israeli occupation in the occupied Palestinian territories. Protests and violence escalated. Children took to the streets, as most of us have seen in pictures and TV, throwing stones (and occasionally Molotov cocktails) at armed Israeli soldiers and tanks. Groups like Ihyaa' at-Turaath called and continue to call them "atfaal al-hijaarah" and laud them for their "bravery and courage". Along with that was the armed resistance. This is where Hamas (Ikhwaan) and Hizbush-Shaytaan (Raafidah) emerged as competition to the PLO.
  • The first Intifaadah claimed the lives of an estimated 1,392 Palestinians. More than 130,000 were reported wounded, and another 18,000 were imprisoned.
  • The second Intifaadah, or the Intifaadatul-Aqsaa, began in 2000 when Ariel Sharon visited the site of Masjid al-Aqsaa with a large security detail. Palestinians took offense and protests erupted throughout the West Bank the very same day, and throughout the occupied territories as a whole over the following days. The next day after Sharon's visit, after Salaatul-Jumu'ah, Police and Palestinians scuffled outside Al-Aqsaa.  Israel deployed police and crowd control units in the occupied territories to squelch the riots. Some Jews added fuel to the fire by attacking and chanting anti-Arab slogans. On October 12th, two Israeli reservists were arrested by the Palestinian Authority (PA) when they entered Ramallah. An angry mob of Palestinians stormed the police station and beat them to death, and Israel retailated with air strikes. Within the first six days it is estimated that 61 Palestinians were killed and over 2,500 were injured. Violence escalated and Palestinian suicide bombers began targeting night clubs, markets and commuter buses, coordinated by the people of innovation, like Ahmad Yaaseen's "Hamas" and the "Islamic Jihad".  These groups claimed that these acts were Jihaad and carried them out mostly against civilians.
  • The Palestinian Red Crescent Society estimates that by its end, over 30,000 were killed or injured in the 2nd Intifaadah.


  Of course the people of these innovated political movements and parties declare this uprising and rioting against Israel to be a jihaad, while Ahlus-Sunnah do not, as the Imaam, the Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez bin Baaz رحمه الله تعالى has mentioned in the last fataawaa he gave in this issue before his death, like when the Shaykh was asked regarding the peace treaty between the Muslims and the Jews and Christians and mentioned it's correctness and is the responsibility of the Waleeul-Amr. One of those present said to the Shaykh رحمه الله: "Fine, if there is ? may Allaah forgive you ? if there is this treaty and this peace, it will inevitably cripple the Jihaad?."
The Shaykh said sternly:
quote:

"Where is the Jihaad, where is the Jihaad??!!"


  Likewise Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen and Shaykh al-Albaanee have clearly said that there is no Jihaad today.  
Jihaad of course will remain until the Day of Resurrection as the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) has said [al-Bukhaaree and Muslim] but is established when it's conditions (shuroot) have been met.   That is because it has conditions like any other act of 'Ibaadah, from them: having the permission of the Waleeul-Amr (Muslim ruler) and permission of ones parents, having Qudrah (the ability), that there is no treaty with the enemy, that those whom the Muslims are fighting against are not those who the Muslims have given an assurance of safety and protection to, and that there is a distinction between the Muslims and who their enemy are.  This is in the offensive Jihaad (Jihaad at-Talib), when the Muslims go out to fight against the kuffaar in their lands. As for the defensive Jihaad (Jihaad ad-Daf'), then as Shaykh 'Ubayd and Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan have mentioned, it still has the condition of Qudrah (ability). In the situation when the Muslims are weak and unable to expel their enemy from their lands, the Waleeul-Amr can enter into a treaty with the enemy if he sees a benefit in that for the Muslims, like the Messenger (صلى الله عليه و سلم) did at Hudaybiyyah with the Mushrikeen of Makkah.
  
   So if one were to say that there is Jihaad in Palestine, then which type is it? If it is the offensive Jihaad, then have the shuroot of the offensive Jihaad been met ? like permission of the Muslim leader, no treaty with the enemy (in this case Israel), and the ability to effectively take the fight to the Jews?  If these shuroot have not been met then there is no legislated Jihaad.  And if this "Jihaad" of theirs is a defensive Jihaad, then its shart (condition) is that they have the ability (Qudrah) to repel their enemy. Are kids with rocks versus soldiers with rifles, tanks, attack helicopters and warplanes to be considered as having the ability?!  And regarding the throwing/shooting of stones (الخذف), then the Messenger (صلى الله عليه و سلم) prohibited this and said:
quote:

(( It doesn't kill an animal and doesn't harm an enemy, but it (only) puts out the eye and breaks the tooth ))

[Ibn Maajah: declared Saheeh by Shaykh Al-Albaanee رحمه الله]


Then there comes another issue which is that of protests, demonstrations and rioting ? all of which have been prohibited by our Salafee 'Ulamaa'. Shaykh Ibn Baaz considered them
quote:

'from amongst the causes of fitan (tribulations) and from amongst the causes of evil and from amongst the causes of transgression upon some people?"


And Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen said:
quote:

"So we do not support the demonstrations and protests and whatever resembles that."


Click here below for more on the issue of protests and demonstrations:
http://www.salafipublications.com/sps/downloads/pdf/CAF020009.pdf


   Of course the issue of Jihaad entails many affairs that need to be discussed.  Perhaps in future threads these matters can be discussed in more detail and given their due weight.  But the point here is to show the position of Ahlus-Sunnah in the issue of  Palestine, and that this is an issue that is not understood by desires and emotions. Rather the Muslim returns back to the 'Ulamaa' in these affairs so that he can be upon baseerah and know what the legislation requires him to do or not do.  Likewise, the point is to show that Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee, an organization that ascribes itself to the Sunnah and Salafiyyah and ascribes itself to Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azeez, Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen and Shaykh Naasir (رحمهم الله), holds a position that is misguided and astray, and that it is not permissible for any day of the week to think that they are callers to the Truth in the likes of these affairs.  So look at what has been mentioned above, and then look to the sayings of the heads and "mashayikh" of Ihyaa' at-Turaath and see the difference, و الله المستعان.



Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath and Jihaad in Palestine


quote:

"So the audacity of the criminal Sharon in the assassination of the shaykh of the mujaahideen Ahmad Yaseen ?
That they [the Israelis] believe that they have indeed actualized their dream of aborting the spirit of jihad and sacrifice with the Palestinian people?
But the question is about the positions of most of the Arabic and Islaamic states that have become silent like the silence of the graves, and as if the affair does not concern them. And it is waajib that we do not tire ourselves with it, this position of theirs. For perhaps they are waiting for the official agreement from the United States and the European countries so that they are not accused of supporting terrorism ."


Speaker: Waa'il al-Hasaawee
Source: Ar-Ra'iyy al-'Aam newspaper
Number: 13427
Date: 25/2/2004





quote:

Question: what is your opinion of the uprising (in) the occupied land [the Intifaadah in Palestine]?
Answer: The Intifaadah (uprising) is a legislated right. So jihad of the Muslims against the Jews, whether it be in the form of the Intifaadah or in the form of jihad, then this is not just a right, rather it is waajib upon the Islaamic Ummah to aid it ."

Speaker: 'Umar al-Ashqar
Source: Al-Furqaan magazine
Number: 143, pg. 3
Date: 7/5/2001






quote:

"There are two types of Jihaad: Jihaad at-Talib, and it is what is called the offensive war, and Jihaad ad-Daf', and it is what is called war of liberation, and it is repelling an occupying force, just like the situation in Palestine ."

Speaker: Khaalid Sultaan al-'Eesaa
Source: Ar-Ra'iyy al-'Aam newspaper
Date: 20/2/2004



quote:


"verily the negotiations between the Palestinian Authority and the government of the Jews did not and will not free the land of Palestine. And what was taken by force will not be returned except by Jihaad in the path of Allaah?.
Verily the liberation of Al-Quds ? rather all of Palestine ? is a religious obligation upon all of the Muslims, and no one has the right to sell a hand span of the Muslims land or to relinquish it?."

Speaker: Taariq al-'Eesaa, President of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 127, pg. 41
Date: 2000



quote:


"Al-Aqsaa is the reason for the present uprising (Intifaadah) [the 2nd Intifaadah] and the mujaahidoon in Palestine are fighting due to its sacredness and our Islaam?"

Speaker: Fahd al-Khannah
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 127, pg. 41
Date: 2000




at-Turaaths advice to the People of Palestine

quote:


"What is required from the Palestinian people now is unification of the ranks and word with all of the groups and Islaamic movements ?"

Speaker: Dr. Nassir Fareed
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 178, pg. 3
Date: 2002



* So to Turaath, part of the solution is for the oppressed, downtrodden people of Palestine is to join ranks with the Shee'ah group Hezbush-Shaytaan (who follow that dog Khomeini and are openly connected and funded by Iran), and the Khaarijee/Ikhwaanee groups like Islaamic Jihaad and the very popular Hamas (click hereto see the reality of Hamas and [url=http://www.mehrnews.com/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=294306]here[/url]to read about it!)?


Boycott the Kuffaar!!


quote:

"And it is upon them also, that they do everything that contains weakening of the kuffaar. So they do not use them as paid workers? or as engineers or as servants for any type of service?.  
And this also is obligatory upon the Muslims, that they boycott all of the kuffaar by abandoning cooperating with them and by abandoning buying their products?
"

Speaker: 'Abdullaah bin Jibreen
Source: Al-Furqaan, the magazine of Ihyaa' at-Turaath
Number: 133, pg. 9
Date: 19/2/2001



* refer to the tape of Shaykh 'Ubayd حفظه الله on www.Salafiaudio.com to hear him explain how boycotting is from the ways of the Shee'ah and not from the ways of Ahlus-Sunnah!


Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath and Martyrdom

quote:


"And indeed the names of the heroes of the Intifaadah have been recorded in letters of light. And the people of Palestine have sent forward what is close to 1850 martyrs?."

Speaker: 'Abdur-Rahmaan Aboo 'Awf
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 216, ppg. 16-17
Date: 2002



quote:


"Verily these acts are acts of martyrdom (أعمال استشهادية) and are not (acts of) suicide. And it is not permissible for me to label these acts as acts of suicide and I am sitting in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia?..
We call them istishhaadiyeen in the likes of their current circumstances
?."

Speaker: Saalih as-Sadlaan
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 196, pg. 3
Date: 2002





The noble Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-'Uthaymeen was asked:
"Is it permissible to use the term "shaheed" for the specific person and to say: 'the shaheed, so-and-so'?"

The Shaykh رحمه الله تعالى answered by saying:

quote:

"It is not permissible for us to testify for a specific individual that he is a shaheed, even if he was killed unjustly or killed and he was defending the Truth, for it is not permissible that we say 'so-and-so is a shaheed'. And this is in opposition to what the people are upon today, where they give an exception for this testification and make everyone who is killed, even if he was killed in a faction of jaahiliyyah, they call them 'shaheed'. And this is haraam because your saying is about a person that he was killed and he is a shaheed is considered a testimony that you will be asked about on the Day of Resurrection. It will be said to you: 'do you have knowledge that he was killed as a shaheed?' And for this the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) said:
(( There is no one who was wounded in the Path of Allaah, and Allaah knows better who was wounded in His Path, except that he will come on the Day of Resurrection and his wound will seep blood, the color will be the color of blood, and the smell will be the scent of musk )). So consider the saying of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم): ((and Allaah knows better who was wounded in His Path )). يُكـْلَمُ [in the hadeeth]: it means that he is wounded.
   So indeed some of the people, it could be their apparent situation is that he fights so that the Word of Allaah is uppermost, but Allaah knows what is in his heart and that it is contrary to what is apparent in his actions. And this is a chapter of al-Bukhaaree رحمه الله about this issue in his Saheeh, so he said: (Chapter: It is not to be said that so-and-so is a shaheed), because topic of the shahaadah is the heart. No one knows what is in the heart except Allaah ?عز و جل-?"

See Al-Fataawaa of Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen رحمه الله




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Turaath and the current crisis in Lebanon

quote:

Kuwait Times, Wednesday, August 2, 2006
Kuwaitis slam US' 'New Middle East'


By Ahmad Al-Khaled

KUWAIT: More than 500 people rallied on Shara Sahafa (Journalism Street) late yesterday in support of Lebanese endurance against Israeli aggression and denounced the US' vision of a "New Middle East'. Frequent chants of "Death to America!", "America the Great Satan! and "Death to Israel!" could be heard. "We tell the American and British ambassadors in Kuwait that they are unwanted and unwelcome in our diwaniyas and homes, especially in the month of Ramadan," a speaker told the crowd to chants of "We are Hezbollah" and "Down, Down USA".

Protestors gathered 3000 signatures of Kuwaiti citizens supporting an immediate ceasefire and an end to Israeli hostilities in Lebanon, which was sent to all countries that are permanent members of the UN Security Council and several international humanitarian agencies. "What is happening in Lebanon is not a crime - it is crimes against humanity," Ayad Al-Mena, a Kuwaiti journalist told the crowd. "Close the US Embassy" signs hung amid coffins marked "UN" and "Arab League", signifying protestors' lack of confidence in both agencies to accomplish anything in the current Mideast conflict. "It is a mistake to call this war an Israeli war as it is an Israeli-American war," Ahmed Al-Diyan, a Kuwaiti constitutional scholar and writer said. "The UN is a division of the US State Department," he added.

All speakers at the rally slammed US policy in the region with Kuwaiti journalist Mustafa Behbahani saying: "The American Zionist intention is the control of the region and anyone who does not submit gets eliminated." Behbahani called on the National Assembly to enact laws that criminalise relations with Israel.

Kuwaiti journalist and head of the political office of the Salafist Movement (a Sunni political party)[i.e. Jam' iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath] Fahaid Al-Heliem said: "This is a crusade against Islam and Muslims! When the two towers fell, all the values of US democracy fell!"

"The US wants Islamic nations to submit - their only obstacle is Islamic resistance which they want to remove. They want to destroy the idea of resistance. Support the resistance - if they are defeated it is a defeat for all of us. Support them with your words, money and everything you can," Al-Mena implored. "They (the US) want to destroy even the idea of resistance," Al-Diyan chorused. Referring to the US' self-proclaimed "New Middle East" he said: "This New Middle East will be made up of small countries built on ethnicity and sectarianism and have no will." "US support for Israel is fuelling more extremism and hatred for the US," Al-Mena added.

Shiite religious cleric Abdullah Al-Najada denounced the local press. "There are (US and Israeli) agents in the free press," he charged. The mostly Shiite crowd responded with chants of "Death to Traitors!", "Death to Agents!" and "Death to Mercenaries!" "There are no Sunnis, there are no Shiites - only Muslim," Salafist Al-Heliem said. "And with all our fights with Israel, we have only had Arab Nationalism (which is dead) - once we ousted Islam, we lost everything," he added, calling on the free Kuwaiti press to support Lebanon. The Kuwaiti Journalist Association also urged the press yesterday to expose Israeli atrocities and crimes.

See the article here




* Once again we see the heads of this jam'iyyah bid'iyyah involved in protests (the hukm of which we mentioned in the post before this one) and cooperation with those who curse the Companions of Allaah's Messenger (صلى الله عليه و سلم), the Raafidah Shee'ah [i.e. Hezbollah]!! Did he ever stop to think that it is Hezbollah who are the cause of the killing we are seeing everyday in Lebanon, and here he is, speaking at a rally against violence in Lebanon with who?????? HEZBOLLAH!!

So here we have this Turaathee, and not just your run-of-the-mill turaathee, but the head of the political office of Turaath's Harakatus-Salafiyyah, surrounded by people chanting "We are Hezbollah!", and he has the audacity to say:
quote:

"There are no Sunnis, there are no Shiites - only Muslims"



Yesterday one of our brothers here showed us a video clip of Hezbollah's leader Hasan Nasrullah cursing the noble Sahaabee Aboo Sufyaan (رضى الله تعالى عنه) and accusing him of hypocrisy and plotting against the deen of Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم) up until the day that he died - in a open lecture (click [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy8oKEhPIPc ]here[/url] to see it). How can anyone who ascribes himself to Islaam and claims to love the Messenger and his Sunnah hear such filth and not feel sick to his stomach??!!, unless of course you are Taariq as-Suwaydaan.   Then what about attending rallies with them and saying the rubbish that this guy said?

But of course their saying things like this comes as no surprise, especially if one were to look at the title of an article by Turaath's biggest MP, Dr. Waleed at-Tabtabaa'ee, on the front page of the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Watn:

quote:

"I'm a sunnee...and I love the Shee'ah"



And that was just the title! Check out an example of what he wrote inside the article:

quote:

"...so I shout out and I say: 'I am a sunnee and I love the shee'ah!', and let every shee'ee shout out and say: 'I am a shee'ee and I love the Sunnees!'. And it is better that we say all together: 'We are Muslims and all of us are Muslims'..."

Source: Al-Watn newspaper
Date: 18/12/2005



Ahhh! Look at that, a "cum ba ya moment", everyone holding hands 'round the 'ol campfire... أعوذ بالله.
Maybe he forgot that many of the 'Ulamaa', past and present (like Shaykh 'Ubayd has mentioned) make takfeer of the Raafidah shee'ah!
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Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath and Takfeer


quote:

"and indeed there has started in the Muslim communities with clarity, groups from amongst those who carry Islaamic names, but their hearts have absorbed 'ilmaaniyyah (secularism) and kufr and ilhaad (atheism)?"

Speaker:  Al-Furqaan's column "As-Salaamu 'alaykum"
Source: Al-Furqaan, the magazine of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath
Number: 59, pg. 5
Date:  1995




quote:

"How do we face the 'ilmaaniyeen (secularists) and the people of nifaaq (hypocrisy), those who reject implementation of the Sharee'ah?"

Speaker: Al-Furqaan magazine asking Waleed at-Tabtabaa'ee this question
Source: Al-Furqaan, the magazine of Ihyaa' at-Turaath
Number:  50, pg. 25
Date: 1994



* Indeed Turaath has inherited this from their shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan bin 'Abdul-Khaaliq:

quote:

"And even though the Ummah of Islaam, in it's great number, is equal in Kufr and obstinacy and abandonment of the Deen of Allaah, still this Islaamic Ummah, there does not cease to be a group from it upon the Haqq, calling to it; they are not harmed by those who abandon them, nor by those who oppose them, until the last part of this group fights the Dajjaal?"

Speaker:  'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq
Title:  Usoolun feel-amri bil-ma'roofi wan-nahee 'anil-munkar
Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 20, pg. 6
Date: 1991



We will add more regarding this issue, inshaa'Allaah, as their statements of Takfeer of individuals (by name!) and the Muslim Ummah as a whole are many! و الله المستعان

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الشيخ العلامة ربيع المدخلي يقول ان التعاون مع جمعية احياء التراث
تعاون ضد المنهج السلفي

Ash-Shaykh al-'Allaamah Rabee' bin Haadee al-Madkhalee: Verily cooperation with Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath is a cooperation that is in opposition to the Salafee manhaj


the audio file, which was the Shaykhs answer to a telephonic question, can be downloaded here




Likewise, Shaykh 'Ubayd حفظه الله has speech in which he warns against cooperating with Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath which can be downloaded [url=http://www.salafi.ws/File_1/s.3baid.3.wm]here[/url]

We ask Allaah تبارك و تعالى to reward our noble brother Aboo Muhammad Jaasim al-Kandaree (بارك الله فيه) for posting the audio files of the mashayikh in refutation of Ihyaa' at-Turaath on his site.

More audio to come... إن شاء الله
بارك الله فيكم


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ash-Shaykh, al-Waalid 'Ubayd bin 'Abdillaah al-Jaabiree حفظه الله on the bay'ah (oath of allegiance) with Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath


click here to hear the audio



ash-Shaykh (Dr.) Muhammad bin Haadee حفظه الله تعالى said:

quote:

And they [Turaath] have the bay'ah (pledge of allegiance), and they call it "al-'ahd" (the pledge) or "taa'atul-mas'ool" (obedience to those in charge)....

Click [url=http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?s=1e1ae9dc45077abed7c6013a3e3cc7c0&threadid=327080]here[/url] to listen to the audio.
The translation was posted above in a previous post.



ash-Shaykh Ahmad bin Muhammad as-Subay'ee حفظه الله on the difference between the da'wah of Ahlus-Sunnah and that of the political groups and parties


[url=http://www.salafi.ws/File_1/s.ahmed.mp3]click here[/url] to listen to the audio







[url=http://turaath.blogspot.com/]turaath.blogspot[/url]


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Excellent speech regarding 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq by our noble shaykh here in Kuwait, ash-Shaykh (Dr.) Falaah Ismaa'eel al-Mindikaar حفظه الله تعالى Audio with English translation

Click here to listen to Shaykh Falaah





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ash-Shaykh al-'Allaamah Muqbil bin Haadi?ee al-Waadi'ee,
the Muhaddith of the Lands of Yemen رحمه الله
on 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq and Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath




The Shaykh رحمه الله تعالى  said:

quote:

?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq and Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee, ?so we have said that ? Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq is ?salafty? the ?seen?, the ?laam? and the ?faa? [are] from Salafiyyah, and the ?taa? and ?yaa? [are] from ?Deemooqaraatiyyah,?(i.e., Democracy)!
So the like of this one, my brothers, the like of ? Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq, in the condition he is now upon, he is to be mentioned with criticism only (jarh) and not with words in his favour (ta?deel). When he was in the city of Allaah?s Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam), he was upright, and at the start of his affair in Kuwait he was also upright.


Listen! Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath deserves the criticism, since it has divided the callers to Allaah;  ?Then what, O my brothers. Then the matter is that they know the Suroorees are justly criticised, so are we to say, ?We must mention the good qualities along with the evil?? As will follow, they do not deserve that their good deeds are mentioned:

?Perish the two hands of Aboo Lahab (an uncle of the Prophet), and perish he! His wealth and his children (etc.) will not benefit him! He will be burnt in a Fire of blazing flames.? Al-Masad (111):1-5
And al-Imaam al-Bukhaaree gave the chapter heading to it [i.e., the above ayah] in the Chapter of Funerals, ?Chapter: Talking about the wicked from the dead.?(vol.2,p.270)

And Moosa said to his companion:  ?Verily, you are a plain misleaders!? al-Qasas (28) :18 And also Allaah Says: ?And obey not everyone who swears much, and is considered worthless. A slanderer, going about with calumnies, hinderer of good, transgressor, sinful, cruel, after all that base-born (of illegitimate birth).? al-Qalam (68):10-13


So was it mentioned, o brothers that these people possessed the courage of the Arabs or that they welcomed the pilgrims and that they had some good qualities?
This was not mentioned ?what was mentioned was their kufr and Allaah?s aid is sought?. Then after this it was if they were influenced by the da?wah of Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen. They were influenced in the question of organisation and the matter of Hizbiyyah and elections, and democracy and ?what is important is that ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul ?Khaaliq degenerated:
? And recite (O Muhammad (s)) to them the story of him to whom we gave our aayaat, but he threw them away , so shaytan followed him up and he became of those who went astray. And had we willed , we would surely have elevated him therewith but he clung to the earth and followed his own vain desire. So his description is the description of a dog; if you drive him away, he lolls his tongue out or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls his tongue out.? al-A?raaf (7)175-176.


He degenerated, then after this also some of the noble brothers from Kuwait such as ?Abdul-Lateef ad-Dirbaas and a group of the brothers, he used to call them, ?The Juhaymaanees.? He called them ? The Juhaymaanees? and they were not followers of Juhaymaan, they were followers of Book and the Sunnah. Yes, O our brothers then he went further into the use of images, yes , that which he had previously attacked. Also his attacking the noble scholars and saying that they do not know anything about knowledge of the state of affairs.

And I regard his greatest sin to be his splitting up the Ahlus-Sunnah, dividing the callers to Allaah. Yes, He misled them with his deenaar not with his thoughts. So he established centres, O impoverished ones of the Jam?iyyah at-Turaath, he established centres from Kuwait to Indonesia, from Kuwait to Egypt, from Kuwait to the Emirates, from Kuwait to so and so.


Establish centres and the Jam?iyyah will pay for it. I say: It is a mistake to give money to Jam?iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath. It is a great error since they use it to split  up the Ahlus-Sunnah in Sudan, and they call his companions the Jamaa?ah of self-interests. Yes, and here we have a group of the dregs also whom he has beguiled with his deenaars, not with his ideas. And we gave the good tidings to the salafee youth of Kuwait that Jam?iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath spend huge sums of money upon those who have metamorphosed here in Yemen, and that their call is dead and has no effect. And it has been said by some in Kuwait that we will not have any da?wah as long as Muqbil is in Yemen. Yes, from the favour of my Lord, because you have segregated yourself, O you who says that we will not have any da?wah in Yemen as long as Muqbil is in Yemen.


And we are resolved to assail you with tapes and books sent to Kuwait. Yes, by Allaah, Aboo Talhah informed me, O my brothers, Aboo Talhah al ?Hadramee said, after they heard your tapes and your books, ?Learn! Learn!? He said, ?Then I visited them after a month and found them saying. ?Shaykh ?Abdur-Rahmaan ['Abdul-Khaaliq] is sometimes correct and sometimes wrong. Some things he is ignorant of and some things he knows. What is that which is the final proof? The final proof is the evidence.? [This change , after listening to these tapes etc., occurred] in the shortest possible time, and all praise and thanks are for Allaah and it is from the favours of Allaah. So we are resolved to assail with our tapes and our books the Jam?iyyah Ihyaa at-Turaath and ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq, and the unsteady ?Abdullah as-Sabt, and in knowledge of the Ikhwaanul-Mufliseen he is alright, but some of our brothers have heard a self-contradictory tape of his, sometimes he affirms the Jamaa?ahs [at] other times he rejects them. And this is how it is. Study, study O ?Abdullah Sabt.

I advise you for Allaah, seeking Allaah?s  Face, that you study and learn so that you may call to Allaah upon clear knowledge and not remain unsteady. What you are thanked for is what I hear that you say on tape,??Aboo ?Abdur-Rahmaan Muqbil al-Waadi?ee is a Salafee, a Sunnee, I do not accuse his Salafiyyah or his being a Sunnee??; but even if he spoke about me day and night, and I inform you that I do not speak about you, by Allaah, out of anger, but because the Religion obligates this upon me , that I should speak and warn against your Hizbiyyah. This is an obligation, "Whoever amongst you sees an evil then let him remove it with his hand ,and if he is not able,'then with his tongue, and if he not able then with his heart and that is the weakest of Eemaan."

Scandalous deeds, scandalous deeds, O our brothers, scandalous deeds in Yemen ? yes ?Abdul-Qaadir and Muhammad ?Abdul-Jaleel, the Kuwaitees, came and gave them wealth and what happened, they started trying to gain sole control of it and cutting off from one another because of it , to the point that a brother visited me, whose name was Muhammad, and he was the editor-in-chief of the Kuwaitee magazine, ?al-Furqaan?, I do not know if he is now, so I said to him, ?What is this?? So he said, ?We have never been struck in the face in any land like the slap in the face we received in Yemen!?


Yes, the people of Yemen , O my brothers, will eat up a party?s wealth until its money dries up, then they will move to a different party until they use up its funds, then they move to another party and use up its funds and then abandon it and so on. So they will devour Ihyaa' at-Turaath until they have devoured whatever it has and then move to a different party, then a different party, then a different party, and Allaah?s aid is sought? Then my advice for ?Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq is that he should go and earn, and take a book and sit in the gathering of Shaykh Ibn ?Uthaymeen, that Shaykh about whom they say that he does not know anything of the state of affairs; or Shaykh Ibn Baaz, that Shaykh about whom they say that he doesn?t know anything about the state of affairs.


He should take a book and humble himself for Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, and learn. I advice him, seeking Allaah?s Face, and I had said to some Kuwaitee brothers, ?Your da?wah has been continuing for a long time, since we were in al-Madeenah, and you still haven?t managed to produce one student of knowledge,? not even one, O ?Abdur-Rahmaan ? Abdul-Khaaliq?! And he said to me, ?You are correct,? and he was from Jam?iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath and they are fervent adherents of the Jam?iyyah, and they said ?When we saw that this was the case we started increasing the number of our students in Saudi Universities.?

Yes and after this I advise the Kuwaitee youth to leave him and keep away from him: ?And (remember) the Day when the Thaalim will bite at his hands, he will say, ?Oh! Would that I had taken a path with the Messenger. Ah! Woe to me! Would that I had never taken so ?and-so as a friend! He indeed led me astray from the Reminder (this Qur'aan) after it had come to me. And shaytaan is ever a deserter to man in the hour of need.?  al-Furqaan (25):27-28

I advise you, O Kuwaitee youth, to often remember and think, ?Is ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq more knowledgeable or is Ahmad ibn Hanbal? Is ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq have more Taqwaa of Allaah or Ahmad ibn Hanbal? Is ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq more pious or is Ahmad ibn Hanbal? Yes, O brothers, if we were blind followers we would have blindly followed Ahmad ibn Hanbal (rahimahullaah),but we hold that Taqleed is forbidden, and you should be sure that you will remain blind for as long as you follow ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul Khaaliq. ? Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq who published his magazine ?al-Furqaan? in which he said, ? Saddaam is a Believer. ?Yes, by Allaah, a Believer! Then after this what was the case, O our brothers ?Saddaam the Ba?thee (Communist)- a Believer, but when he struck them, then what, O brothers? He changed from being a Believer to being a Kaafir before and after. We declared Saddaam a Kaafir before and after. So those who are emotional and speak according to emotions and are not firmly grounded in knowledge, they will certainly be like this.


A further matter, someone will say , ?The affair is over now, Shaykh Ibn Baaz wrote to him and he has withdrawn his sayings.? I say : that which he has turned back from is nothing compared to his spitting the Ahlus-Sunnah, this is one thing. And in the hadeeth of Jaabir there occurs that Muhammad separates the people. The Prophet used to cause a split between the Muslim and the Kaafir. A man would be a Muslim and his wife a kaafir so he would follow the Muslims and she would follow the kaafirs. A man would be a kaafir and his wife a Muslim, and so the opposite. So this is a separation.


But this one coming from behind, ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Kaaliq, I fear that he has been deliberately entered into the da?wah, he splits up the da?wah of Ahlus-Sunnah. So don?t think that the matters that ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul Khaaliq had retracted are everything that he is criticized for. It is not everything, and it is not even a tenth, nor even a twentieth, nor even a fortieth. And the reason for this is that he didn?t fill himself up with knowledge.

So the refutation of our brother Rabee? bin Haadee, I have read it, and what an excellent refutation, may Allaah reward him with good. He made clear what he is upon, and I say that if a fair minded person from the Kuwaitee youth were to read it, then he will free himself before Allaah from ?Abdur-Rahmaan  ?Abdul-Khaaliq, and from Jami?iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath which supports ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq.

Who is ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq? He is nothing
. It is the deenar that has made him something, and causes them to bring their pictures in the newspaper, and to do there activities, it is the Kuwaitee Deenaar. It is not ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq. Yes I ask you, O ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq, where is it more fitting that you should be if you are in reality a rectifier? Where would you be most needed?

Is your land Egypt or Kuwait! Yes, your land is Egypt, our brother, where there is the shrine of al-Badawee, your land is Egypt where there is the shrine of al-Husayn, as they claim it to be, the grave of al-Husayn, they claim ; and you land is Egypt where even the old women say, ? O my master Husayn, send help to us.? So if you truly desired da?wah, then you would have returned to your land and established a center there for da?wah, and taught the people within the limits of what you know, and you yourself should learn and take on the required knowledge, and Allaah?s aid is sought.  I hold that his speech is valueless and does not equal anything, this is one thing; and I also say that the magazine ?al-Furqaan? or the magazine of the beggars in Yemen, in which the foolish liar ? Ammaar ibn Naashir writes, I also have no intention to refute it since our refutations are upon people of knowledge. Like ?Alee Ridaa who spoke in criticism of four ahaadeeth in the book ?al-?Ilal?, so I rebutted him, al-hamdulillaah, in a small volume, this being from Allaah?s favours. So we reply to the students of knowledge. But as for people of worthlessness, then no.

'If I were to put a rock in the mouth of every dog which yelped,
then a few stones would be sold for a deenaar.
If every time a fly buzzed I tried to drive it away,
then the flies would be very important in my eyes.?


It is just a magazine that comes out, or a book, for a single Kuwaitee deenaar which they pay, but it will die today or tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. The people used to love ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq, and they used to benefit from his books.  But now only the people interested in money remain, such as Muhammad al-Mahdee. What is important as I have said t o you is that those who follow him from the Sudanese are called the people of self-interests.

The one who sells the da?wah for the Kuwaitee deenaar is ruined and in loss:
? And who is better in speech than he who [says,My Lord is Allaah,?(believes in His Oneness), and then stands straight)acts upon His Order),and] invites (men) to Allaah and does righteous deeds, and says, ?I am one of the Muslims.?? Fussilat(41):33

And ruined and in loss are those who sell the da?wah for the building of the mosque, ?Build a mosque for us and we are , if Allaah wills, Salafees.? Yes, but from the ?Salafee? way of ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq which permits democracy, and permits elections, and which permits demonstrations.

But we are Salafees, we do not want your mosques. And we do not want your deenaars, Allaah has granted us sufficiency from having any need of that. And we do not want aid from you.  We must make clear your errors and show how you are contrary to the Book and the Sunnah, and Allaah?s aid is sought.  And I hold that such as that does not deserve a refutation.  And all praise is for Allaah, Shaykh Rabee? (hafidhahullaah) has done that which Allaah obligated upon him, and he is to be thanked for it.


Questioner: Is he [?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq] an Innovator?


Yes, an innovator (Mubtadi?) and let the one who is present inform the one who is absent. Since he calls to Hizbiyyah, and the Lord of Honour says in  His Noble Book:
? And hold fast, all of you together , to the Rope of Allaah (this Quraan), and be not divided among yourselves.?
Aali-?Imraan 3:103

And if there are amongst the scholars those who say that one who clings blindly to one of the four madhabs, or one of the madhabs, is to be counted as an innovator, as as-San?aanee mentions in ?Irshadin-Nuqaad ilaa tayseerl-Ijtihaad,? [then] one who sticks blindly to these detested forms of Hizbiyyah, this is to be counted as innovation. Likewise also his fight against his brothers Ahlus-Sunnah, yes and how he attacks the people of Sunnah, and his affirmation of democracy, and maashaa'Allaah, with regard to working collectively, who denies collective work?! And says, ?As for me I shall work alone,? and Allaah says:
?Help you one another in al-Birr and at-Taqwa, but do not help one another in sin and transgression.? Al-Maaidah(5):2 .

And the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) said, (( the Believer to the Believer is like a building, each part of it supports the others.))  So who denies collective work?! But within the bounds of the Book and the Sunnah. What is collective work (to them) ?
The Ameer orders us to shave our beards, so we shave them, and the Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) said, ((?Shorten the moustaches and leave the beards.?))


The Ameer orders us to have our photographs taken, so we have our photographs taken. The Ameer says that someone cannot work for Islaam except by committing something of that which has been forbidden. And this  is how it is, O our brothers. And I praise and thank Allaah for the good that He has brought about at the hands of the callers to the Sunnah, from the people of the Sunnah in Yemen. Go out to your brothers whom they support with their deenaars, you will find  them:  ?Dead, lifeless, and they know not when they will be raised up.?  An-Nahl (16):21


And they don?t know when they fall. They expect to fall, so go out to (look at) your brothers! As opposed to the da?wah of the people of the Sunnah, then it is as Allaah, the One free of all imperfections and the Most High, says in His Noble Book:  ? See you not how Allaah sets forth a parable? A goodly word as a goodly tree, whose root is firmly fixed, and its branches(reach) the sky. Giving its fruits at all times, by the Leave of its Lord.?  Ibraaheem(14):24-25

So all praise and thanks are for Allaah, the da?wah of Ahlus-Sunnah is widespread throughout Yemen, and in other than Yemen. I give you the good news that tapes come from Britain, and questions from Britain, and from America, and from Germany,  and from many lands asking about ?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq, and about ?Jam?iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath?, and we warn them strongly against falling in with them, and I say seek Allaah?s aid, and give da?wah within the limits of what you are able, and that is not a matter of money, since the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) and his companions persevered hunger, and lack of clothing, and illnesses. So patiently persevere and give da?wah within the limits of what you are able, and do not sell your da?wah to so and so, or so and so.?


Source:  a cassette recorded on the 22nd Shawwal 1416H, corresponding to Thursday 23rd March 1995.  Translated by Aboo Talhah Daawood Burbank.



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Exposing the shubuhaat of Ihyaa' at-Turaath


  There are many shubuhaat (doubts) that Turaath and its followers bring to legitimize and defend its errors and stances when they are brought as proofs against them by the scholars and students of Knowledge.  After seeking the advice of the noble Shaykh Muhammad al-'Anjaree  حفظه الله و بارك الله فيه who has been following this thread (especially after Abdulilah's post), we decided to expose some of the strongest and most common shubuhaat that the followers of the jam'iyyah bring, to show clearly that they are not carriers of the banner of the Sunnah and Salafiyyah.  Rather they are immersed in bid'ah and misguidance and these shubuhaat that they bring are merely lies and deception.   We ask Allaah تبارك و تعالى for ease and success, and that He guide us and guide those youth who have been deceived by this jam'iyyah hizbiyyah bid'iyyah to the Straight Path of Allaah, about which He said:
quote:

وَأَنَّ هَذَا صِرَاطِي مُسْتَقِيمًا فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَلا تَتَّبِعُوا السُّبُلَ فَتَفَرَّقَ بِكُمْ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ

"And verily this is my Straight Path, so follow it! And do not follow the others paths (as-subul) for they will separate you from His Path." [6:153]

فائدة
: Imaam Ibn Jareer at-Tabaree رحمه الله mentions in his tafseer that Mujaahid said regarding those other paths:  "al-bid'a wash-shubuhaat (innovations and doubts)."


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Shubhah #1: " 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq is no longer with us "

Up until this day, Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath claim that their founder and shaykh,  'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq, is no longer with them and that they have separated themselves from him long ago.  This is clear deception, for indeed he is with them and a part of them without doubt:

quote:

"shaykh Taariq al-'Eesaa mentioned in the talk that he gave in the opening of the 15th Spring Camp in the area of Ar-Riqqah and Al-Hadiyyah?
And the camp hosted in the first day shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq, who spoke about the dangers of the invasion upon the Islaamic world?
"

Source: Al-Furqaan
Number: 132, pg. 13
Date: 12/2/2001


That was in 2001.
quote:

"the participation of shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq in the activities of the 16th Spring Camp, for the Birr wal-Ihsaan project of Jam'iyaah Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee in the area of Ar-Riqqah and Hadiyyah?"

Source:  Ar-Raa'ee al-'Aam newspaper
Number:  9286
Date: 17/3/2002


Okay, this was 2002.  Maybe they finally kicked 'em to the curb after that.

quote:

"the participation of shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq in the activities of the 17th Spring Camp, for the Birr wal-Ihsaan project of Jam'iyaah Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee in the area of Ar-Riqqah and Hadiyyah?"

Source:  Al-Watn newspaper
Number: 10104
Date: 24/3/2004



Oops, guess not.
So in 2001, 2002, and 2004, their shaykh (and the ideological cesspool from which they drink) participated in their semi-annual Spring Camps:
quote:

"the 15th Spring Camp in the area of Ar-Riqqah and Al-Hadiyyah?" -2001

"the 16th Spring Camp, for the Birr wal-Ihsaan project of Jam'iyaah Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee in the area of Ar-Riqqah and Hadiyyah?" - 2002

"the 17th Spring Camp, for the Birr wal-Ihsaan project of Jam'iyaah Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee in the area of Ar-Riqqah and Hadiyyah?" - 2004



So guess who was with them in March 2006 for Turaath's 18th Spring Camp?!
None other than the guy who is no longer with them himself - 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq, in the flesh! (But he isn't with them, if you know what I mean!) Click here to see for yourself!


So how can he be at your last four Spring Camps but he isn't with you and you're not with him?  If he had showed up on his own and sat in the audience maybe you could get away with it? but you invited him, and you let him give lectures to your youth, and you spread his latest books to them for free ? in four consecutive camps ? but he isn't with you??!! عجيب  
An on top of that, who was there with him on the same day alongside 'Abdur-Rahmaan?  The president of Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath, Taariq al-'Eesaa himself.

Until now, ikhwaan, the jam'iyyah has never made a public declaration freeing themselves from 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq, nor have any of his students and hardcore followers, the likes of  'Adnaan 'Abdul-Qaadir (a.k.a. mini- me 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq),  Naadhim al-Misbaah, Waa'il al-Hasaawee or Khaalid Sultaan al-'Eesaa, ever refuted his innovations or freed themselves from them. Rather you find that they are birds of a feather.  So we find in their statements, like those we have mentioned previously:

  • speaking out openly against the rulers
  • takfeer
  • speaking ill of Salafee Scholars and praising and promoting Ahlul-Bid'ah
  • promoting democracy and entering the parliament
  • the filthy hizbiyyah and their splitting the callers

?     just like their shaykh!  

So then how are they free of him?  And even IF they were free of him, the jam'iyyah and it's manhaj is built upon 'Abdur-Rahmaan's ideas and principles which he laid down in his books. Just last week Shaykh Aboo 'Abdur-Rahmaan Taariq as-Subay'ee حفظه الله mentioned how Turaath was built upon 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq's book Mashroo'iyyatul- 'Amal al-Jamaa'ee in which he promotes having multiple groups and parties (which Shaykh Rabee' حفظه الله refuted in his book [url=http://www.rabee.net/show_page.aspx?ID=39&Cat=books]Jamaa'atun waahidah, laa jamaa'aat[/url]?      

But it isn't just his ideas that remain.  Rather, in the year 2006,  'Abdur-Rahmaan is very much with Ihyaa' at-Turaath, regardless of what they claim!


Ash-Shaykh (Dr.) Muhammad bin Haadee al-Madkhalee mentioned:

quote:

So the point is, 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq, he is not unknown to us nor unknown to all of you, and he is their shaykh up until this very hour ? even if they try to distance (him) from themselves.  So we ask Allaah for well-being and protection. And speech regarding him is long but I will suffice with this."



Ash-Shaykh 'Ubayd was asked by one of the youth of Turaath:
"Secondly, he (the Turaathee youth) says: the issue of 'Abdur-Rahmaan bin 'Abdul-Khaaliq, so the man, we agree with you regarding the man's mistakes.  But the brothers in the administration of the jam'iyyah did something beautiful and tremendous, and it is putting 'Abdur-Rahmaan bin 'Abdul-Khaaliq off to the side."

The Shaykh said:
quote:

"And this is not correct except in front of you .  Rather he is in charge of the Sharee'ah committee, and I have documentation for that.
But sometimes they, all of the modern day jamaa'aat ad-da'wiyyah ? and all of them are deviant - they have manuerving, tactics in working.  They manifest things and they conceal their opposite.  So 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq al-Qutbee ? he is a flaming Qutbee, and I have documentation to prove it- he is one of the two doors of Ihyaa' at-Turaath. So Ihyaa' at-Turaath has two doors; one of them is 'Abdullaah as-Sabt, and the other is 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq. So whoever goes out from the way of as-Sabt, enters from the way of Ibn 'Abdul-Khaaliq. And whoever goes out from the way of Ibn 'Abdul-Khaaliq, he enters from the way of as-Sabt, maneuvers.?"

Source:  This was from a private sitting the Shaykh حفظه الله gave to some of the youth of Turaath who came to the dawrah in Hafr a few years back.  You can listen to the entire sitting [url=http://www.salafi.ws/File_1/s.3obid_aljabre.mp3]here[/url]



Shaykh Ahmad as-Subay'ee حفظه الله said in An-Naseehatu ilaa ikhwaaninaa feet-Turaath, one of his tapes in which he refutes and clarifies the reality of at-Turaath:
quote:

"And in reality, the one who claims that 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq is something and Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath is something else, he in reality, he lives on a different planet, and deceives himself.
And his deceiving himself, then this, as I said (before), everyone cries over his Laylaa and does whatever he wants with himself, but that you numb your Salafee brothers and to hide the reality from them with the likes of this da'wah, for verily this is from that which must be refuted, and from that which must be shown clearly to all of the people, that this is a lie and a fabrication, and that it is not correct.
So the one who claims that 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq is something and Jam'iyyah Ihyaa' at-Turaath al-Islaamee is something else, then this one is like the one who says that Ikhwaanul-Muslimeen have no connection with Hasan al-Banaa'?.."


الله أكبر


Important Note!

  It is important to note that up until this point we have deliberately not mentioned the sayings of 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq - his takfeer of the Rulers and the ruled, his revilement of the Salafee 'Ulamaa', his belittlement of the da'wah to at-Tawheed and adding al-Haakimiyyah to the known categorization of Tawheed, hizbiyyah, etc..  We have only mentioned the filthy innovated statements of those at the forefront of their da'wah who represent the jam'iyyah, defend it and call to it, due to this very shubhah mentioned above [i.e. the 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq is no longer with them] ? to show that this jam'iyyah is steeped in bid'ah and misguidance in it's own right, with or without 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq!




Some of the sayings of Ihyaa' at-Turaath in praise of 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq

quote:

"From Aboo 'Abdillaah Taalib al-'Araadah to our noble shaykh, Aboo 'Abdillaah 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq?.
?this is what we learned from you ? may Allaah the Most High preserve you- from lessons in masjid al-'Ulbaan in Kayfaan or jumu'ah khutbahs in masjid al-Haajiree?
So I say: Jazaakum Allaahu khayran, for indeed we were searching for someone that speaks with the name of the Salafee da'wah?. lighting the way for the Ummah's youth in clarifying the Haqq?..
And indeed, by Allaah, to understanding the current affairs that many are ignorant of?."

Speaker:  Taalib al-'Araadah
Source:  Al-Furqaan
Number:  138, pg. 15
Date:  2 / 4/ 2001



quote:

"...and I quote here some priceless speech of our shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq from his well-known book Al-Haddul-faasil baynal-eemaani wal-kufr..."

Speaker: Saalim an-Naashee
Source: Al-Anbaa' Newspaper
Number: 13393
Date: 20 / 2/ 2004



Does this sound like they have separated themselves from him?!
And notice the dates of these quotes. All of this praise for the one they seperated themselves from, due to some mistakes he has (as some of them privately admit) is from 2001 and up!

quote:

"...and we did not see any apology from Dr. Muhammad Sulaymaan al-Ashqaar in regards to what came unexpectedly from him in regards to the noble companion Aboo Bakrah ath-Thaqqafee, the freed-slave of the Messenger of Allaah (صلى الله عليه و سلم), despite what was spread from a wise refutation of the shaykh 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq and brother Ahmad al-Fahd [a surooree here in Kuwait]...."

Speaker: Dr. Mubaarak Sayf al-Haajiree (Sharee'ah, Kuwait University)
Source: Al-Watan Newspaper
Number: 10180/4626
Date: 8/6/2004

   Note * this quote taken from  Talkheesul-Fikrah bi-takhleesi-Sahaabee-jaleeli Abee Bakrah of 'Alee Hasan al-Halabee  (pg.83) where he brings the article by Mubaarak Sayf al-Haajiree, as well as an article by 'Adnaan 'Abdul-Qaadir, in the appendix to his book(!?).





Some of the sayings of  the Salafee Scholars in dispraise of 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq

The noble Shaykh, Imaam and Faqeeh, Muhammad bin Saalih al-'Uthaymeen  رحمه الله

The noble Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-'Uthaymeen رحمه الله said, after having some of the speech of 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq (in which he reviles the students of Shaykh Muhammad bin 'Abdul-Wahhaab and the 'Ulamaa') read out to him:

quote:

"A liar from (one) side, misguidance from (another) side?"

Source: the tape Hukmul-'Ulamaa' 'alaa 'Abdir-Rahmaan 'Abdil-Khaaliq



The Shaykh also refuted 'Abdur-Rahmaan bin 'Abdul-Khaaliq for dividing Tawheed into four categories:

quote:

"that is because whoever claims that there is a 4th category of Tawheed, under what is called 'Tawheed al-Haakimiyyah', is to be counted as an innovator (mubtadi').  So this taqseem is innovated, originating from an ignoramus. He doesn't understand anything from the affair of 'Aqeedah and Deen?"

Source: see Manhajul-Imaam Ibn 'Uthaymeen fee naqdir-rijaali wad-du'aat.




The noble Shaykh, the Muhaddith of this era,  Muhammad Naasiruddeen bin Nooh al-Albaanee رحمه الله

Shaykh al-Albaanee رحمه الله said:

quote:

"And the days he was (in the Islaamic University) he was an ikhwaanee, and if it is correct to say,  he became salafee there in the University, and he was from the best of the shabaab, and he became a hizbee and a gatherer [gathering and uniting the people in his hizb]?. And this partisanship and unifying [the people in one group] is not from the Salafee manhaj?."

Source:  cassette recording.  Refer back to Hukmul-'Ulamaa' 'alaa 'Abdir-Rahmaan 'Abdil-Khaaliq





The noble Shaykh, the Muhaddith of the Lands of Yemen,  Aboo 'Abdir-Rahmaan Muqbil bin Haadee al-Waadi'ee رحمه الله

Shaykh Muqbil رحمه الله said:

quote:

"?so we have said that ? Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq is ?salafty? the ?seen?, the ?laam? and the ?faa? [are] from Salafiyyah, and the ?taa? and ?yaa? [are] from ?Deemooqaraatiyyah,?(i.e., Democracy)!  So the like of this one, my brothers, the like of ? Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq, in the condition he is now upon, he is to be mentioned with criticism only (jarh)...."

"Then my advice for ?Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq is that he should go and learn, and take a book and sit in the gathering of Shaykh Ibn ?Uthaymeen, that Shaykh about whom they say that he does not know anything of the state of affairs; or Shaykh Ibn Baaz, that Shaykh about whom they say that he doesn?t know anything about the state of affairs."



Shaykh Muqbil was asked: "Is he [?Abdur-Rahmaan ?Abdul-Khaaliq] an Innovator?"
He replied:

quote:


"Yes, an innovator (Mubtadi?)..."




The noble Shaykh, al-Waalid, 'Ubayd bin 'Abdillaah al-Jaabiree حفظه الله

Shaykh 'Ubayd said:
quote:

"So 'Abdur-Rahmaan 'Abdul-Khaaliq al-Qutbee ? he is a flaming Qutbee, and I have documentation to prove it!"





   More to come, إن شاء الله....




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Aboo Sufyaan 'Uthmaan Beecher
Kuwait
أبو سفيان عثمان بيشر الأمريكي

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