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01-12-2009 @ 7:20 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Abbas Abbas bin Tareq Ali (New York)
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And the way they follow Islam, so far from what I have read is that they follow the way of Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) and the early generations but I would like someone to explain in detail inshaAllah and also is it permissible to follow the way of the salaf but call myself a Muslim when someone asks me what I am? Can i say I am a Muslim and follow the way of the salaf? jazak Allah khair.

I am a Muslim, want to learn more about Islam the correct way according to Quran and Sunnah.

01-12-2009 @ 8:37 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm Musa bint Muhammad (New York)
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Allaah Has Named us Muslims, So Why Ascribe Ourselves to the Salaf ?

This question was very beautifully answered by Imaam al-Albaani in his
discussion with someone on this subject, recorded on the cassette entitled,
"I am Salafi", and here is a presentation of the vital parts of it:

Shaykh al-Albaani: "When it is said to you, ıWhat is your madhhabı, what is
your reply?"

Questioner: "A Muslim".

Shaykh al-Albaani: "This is not sufficient!".

Questioner: "Allaah has named us Muslims" and he recited the saying of
Allaah Most High, "He is the one who has called you Muslims beforehand."
(al-Hajj 22:78)

Shaykh al-Albaani: "This would be a correct answer if we were in the very
first times (of Islaam) before the sects had appeared and spread. But if we
were to ask, now, any Muslim from any of these sects with which we differ
on account of Aqeedah, his answer would not be any different to this word.
All of them ı the Shiıite Rafidi, the Khaariji, the Nusayri Alawi ı would
say, "I am a Muslim". Hence, this is not sufficient in these days."

Questioner: "In that case I say, I am a Muslim upon the Book and the

Shaykh al-Albaani: "This is not sufficient either".

Questioner: "Why?"

Shaykh al-Albaani: "Do you find any of those whom we have just mentioned by
way of example saying, ıI am a Muslim who is not upon the Book and the
Sunnahı?" Who is the one who says, ıI am not upon the Book and the

At this point the Shaykh then began to explain in detail the importance of
being upon the Book and the Sunnah in light of the understanding of the
Salaf us-Saalihı

Questioner: "In that case I am a Muslim upon the Book and the Sunnah with
the understanding of the Salaf us-Saalih".

Shaykh al-Albaani: "When a person asks you about your madhhab, is this what
you will say to him?"

Questioner: "Yes".

Shaykh al-Albaani: "What is your view that we shorten this phrase in the
language, since the best words are those that are few but indicated the
desired intent, so we say, ıSalafeeı?"

Questioner: "Alright, I will submit to you and I say to you: Yes (I agree
about summarising with saying ıI am Salafeeı), yet my belief is what has
preceded, since the first thing that a person thinks of when he hears that
you are a Salafee is that he recalls much of the experience he has had and
which has involved severity which leads to harshness, all of which
sometimes occurs from the Salafieeıs."

Shaykh al-Albaani: "Lets accept that your words are correct. If you said ıI
am a Muslimı, will not a personıs think of a Shiıite Rafidee, or a Druze or
an Ismaaıeeli (and incline to him)."

Questioner: "It is possible, however, I will have followed the noble verse,
"He has named you Muslims".

Shaykh al-Albaani: "No my brother! You have not followed the verse, since
the verse means the correct form of Islaam. It is necessary that you
address the people according to their level of understandingı so will
anyone understand from you (when you say ıI am a Muslimı) that you are
indeed a Muslim with the desired meaning in the verse (of correct Islaam)?
As for the various cautionary matters you have mentioned, then these are
sometimes correct and sometimes they are not correct.

Since your saying about harshness, then this can sometimes occur from
individuals, yet this is not representative of a methodology  that is tied
to knowledge and belief.

Leave aside individuals for now, we are actually talking about Manhaj
(methodology). This is because when we say Shiıite, or a Druze, or a
Khaarijee, or a Soofee, or a Mutazilee, the various cautionary matters you
raised come into play (and can apply to them aswell).

Hence, this is not the subject of our discussion. We are investigating a
name which gives evidence to the madhhab of an individual and by which he
worships Allaahı Are not all the Companions Muslims?"

Questioner: "Naturally."

Shaykh al-Albaani: "However, there was amongst them, one who stole, or
fornicated, but this does not allow any of them to say, ıI am not a
Muslimı, rather he is a Muslim and a Believer in Allaah, as a chosen way,
however he sometimes opposes his chosen way, because he is not infallible.
And it is for this reason that we ı may Allaah bless you ı are speaking
about a word which indicates our Aqeedah and our thought and our starting
point in our lives and which relates to the affairs of our religion by
which we worship Allaah.

As for the issue of so and so who is harsh and so and so who is lax and too
soft, then that is an entirely different issueı. I wish that you would
reflect upon this concise word (i.e. Salafee) so that you do not persist
upon the word ıMuslimı. And you know that there is no one who will
understand what you really intend (by using the word ıMuslimı alone) everı"

End Quote (Cassette "I am a Salafee").

02-12-2009 @ 8:47 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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03-12-2009 @ 7:22 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Damilola Sadiq ibn Owodunni (Lagos, Nigeria || Eastern Province, KSA)
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May Allaah bless you dear brother Abbas. Alhamdulillaah for guiding you to seek the knowledge of the truth of what is most important in for you both in this life and in the next.

In short, Salafiyyah is the True Islaam without additions or subtractions and the Salafee is the True Muslim. May Allaah make us and all the Muslims steadfast upon this beautiful and blessed manhaj (methodology).

Here are links to some relatively brief articles from the Scholars of the Ummah - I hope they are of benefit to you. [Note that the scholars bring proof from the authentic Sunnah.]

What Is Salafiyyah?
[url=]The Obligation to Ascribe to Salafiyyah[/url]

Here are two more for more clarification:
[url=]Is Salafiyyah a Group from Amongst the Party Spirited Groups[/url]
[url=]Who Are The Salaf?[/url]

May Allaah guide us all to the truth and make us firm upon it.

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