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Aboo Layth Hussain Bin Ibrahim
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Asalamu alykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu
Is Sattar included in the beautiful names of Allah Azzawajal? if it is there then could you please direct me to the Sahih hadith where it say so.
If the name is not included then could we name a person like this: Abdus-Sattar?
JazakaAllahu Khair
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Abu Musa'ab Muhammed Abdullah Nishil ibn Noorudheen Al-Hindee
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Wa'alikum salam warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu!
Inshallahu Ta'ala the following incident from the life of Al Muhadithul 'Asree will help clear ure doubt,Barakallah feek!
Al-ıAllaamah Al-Albaanee ı rahimahullaah ı teaches ıAqeedah (creed of belief) from beneath the overturned car!!
Aboo Waaıil ıUmar bin Ahmad: Ash-Shaikh ıAlee Khashshaan said in his printed statement ıNaasir ul-Hadeeth (Supporter of the Hadeeth), and Mujaddid us-Sunnah (Reviver of the Sunnah), Al-Albaanee: He Lived as the Alone Person of the Time, and He Became the Lost Person of the Time.ı This statement was published in the magazine Ash-Shaqaaıiq, and he (ıAlee Khashshaan) spoke about Ash-Shaikh Muhammad Naasir ud-Deen Al-Albaanee (saying): ıI swear by Allaah, my eyes did not see anyone, as far as I know, who was more eager about the Sunnah, and more severe in aiding it, and who followed it more than Al-Albaanee. Indeed a car overturned with him inside of it between Jeddah and Al-Madinah Al-Munawwarah, and the people rushed (to it) saying, ıO Sattaar, O Sattaar!ı (meaning O Protector). So the Supporter of Hadeeth (Al-Albaanee) said to them while he was under the overturned car, ıSay O Sateer, and donıt say O Sattaar, for As-Sattaar is not from the Most Highıs names.ı And in the Hadeeth (the Prophet said), ıVerily Allaah is Living (Hayy), Sateer (Concealer); He loves sitr (covering, concealing or protecting).ıı
The first step in knowledge is to listen, then to be quiet and attentive, then to preserve it, then to put it into practice and then to spread it.[Sufyan Ibn Unaiynah(Rahimahullah)]
Jazakhulla khair Wa Barakallah Feekum,Nishil
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Abu Aaliyah Abdullah ibn Dwight Lamont Battle
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Shaykh Yahya Al-Hajooree(may Allah protect and preserve him) was asked ," Is it permissible to name somebody by Abdus Sattar?
Answer :I haven't found anything about As-Sattar being one of Allah's names. And since there isn't any proof for this name, no one should be called Abdus Sattar.
Taken from Al-Kanz At-Thaameen fee As-ilahtu Talibatul ilm wa Zaa'iree [ vol 1, page 19] printed by Darul kitab wa Sunnah 2009
* Ibn Mundu and Al-Qurtubi count As-Sattar among Allah's most beautiful names.
And Allah knows best.
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Aboo 'Ubaydah Nishwan bin 'Alee
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Wa 'alaykumus-salaam wa-rahmatullaahi wa-barakaatuhu,
Imaam Al-Albaani said: ıSay O Sateer, and donıt say O Sattaar, for As-Sattaar is not from the Most Highıs names.ı And in the Hadeeth (the Prophet said), ıVerily Allaah is Living (Hayy), Sateer (Concealer); He loves sitr (covering, concealing or protecting).ıı
source: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=11&Topic=5885
Aboo 'Ubaydah Ahmad Nishwan ibn 'Alee al-Maraduwee
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. Abdulilah Rabah Lahmami
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Sheikh Ubayd al-Jaabiree said that Siteer is form Allaah's names not what is common on people's tongues 'saattar'
Siteer means the One who conceals faults, referring to Allaah, the One who conceals faults between you and Him.
Sheikh al-Albaani rahimahullaah corrected aperson who called upon Allaah by ya Saatar and the sheikh said to him say Siteer and this was during a car accident they were both in.
19/2/1430
14th Feb 2009
Correction
As for the faults that harm people such as innovation and open sins then it is from piety to mention other people's innovations that harm the people and affect the understanding of the deen.
initially i mistakenly unintentionally wrote "it is from piety not to conceal"!!! Subhanallaah after reading it again i realised that i didn't mean to add the word 'not' and wished to mention it with the mistake for Allaah's face is sought and high is Allaah from imperfection. Even though the next part below clearly shows my intention but an open mistake is a mistake and must be corrected even if it is unintentional no matter what the people say for Allaah is greater than all of us and whoever humbles himself to Allaah Allaah raises him.
Sheikh Ubayd said that concealing of other peoples' faults is only praiseworthy when that fault is between that person and Allaah as for innovations and open sins that affect the public then these need to be made aware of for the greater benefit to society unless the person repents from this sincerely.
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Abul-'Abbaas Moosaa ibn John Richardson
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What a beautiful story about Shaykh al-Albaanee - may Allaah have Mercy on him!
Here are some relevant points regarding this issue that should be considered:
1. We are not required to restrict ourselves to calling upon Allaah using only His Names, rather we can call upon Allaah by His Attributes or Actions, like saying, "Yaa thal-Jalaali wal-Ikraam". This does not mean that we must first affirm that Thul-Jalaali wal-Ikraam is one of His Names. Similarly, we can say, "Yaa Rabba kulli shay'" (O Lord of all things), without first affirming that "Rabbu kulli shay'" is one of Allaah's Names... This is something well known and spoken of in the scholars' books.
2. It is very virtuous to call upon Allaah using His Most Beautiful Names, due to His Statement, that means, "And to Allaah belong the Most Beautiful Names, so call upon Him using them..."
3. Based on the first two points, the scholars who advise(d) against saying, "Yaa saatir", perhaps they intended to guide people to what is better: the name "as-Sitteer", which is established in an authentic narration, as opposed to "as-Saatir" or "As-Sattaar" which are both derived from His Action of as-Sitr, like in the hadeeth, "Whoever screens a believer in this life, "satarullaah" (Allaah screens him) in this life and the Hereafter..." Thus, to call on Allaah beginning with "Yaa Saatir..." is permissible, just as it is permissible to call upon Allaah beginning with, "Yaa Badee'as-Samaawaatil-wal-Ardh..." and the likes.
4. Building on a recent thread about saying only, "Yaa Allaah!" (properly pronounced "Yallaah!") without asking for anything... just as it is not legislated for you to call upon Allaah saying this and then not ask for anything, similarly it is not legislated for you to call upon Allaah saying, "Yaa Saatir!" without asking for anything (as is the custom of many people). This goes for when you call upon Allaah by any of His Names, Attributes, or Actions.
5. Thus, if a person were to say, "Yaa Saatir (or Sattaar), ustur 'awraatinaa!" (O He who screens, conceal our weaknesses!"), it would be similar to any other case of calling upon Allaah by mentioning His Actions, like "Yaa Haazim al-Ahzaab" and the likes.
And Allaah knows best.
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6. We say that "as-Sitteer" is from Allaah's Names, and that we do not have any proof to affirm "as-Saatir" or "as-Sattaar" as His Names. However, we have no proof to negate either of them as Names either, as Allaah has Names that He has not informed us of. This requires a delicate understanding.
7. We can refer to Allaah by any of His Names, Attributes, or Actions in our oaths as well, like saying, "I swear by the One in whose Hand is my soul..."
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Abu Shereen Rasheed bin Fred Abdullah
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6. We say that "as-Sitteer" is from Allaah's Names, and that we do not have any proof to affirm "as-Saatir" or "as-Sattaar" as His Names. However, we have no proof to negate either of them as Names either, as Allaah has Names that He has not informed us of. This requires a delicate understanding.
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Is it that we neither affirm nor negate such a name, but at the same time we don't call upon Allah by it? Insha Allah you can explain this a little further? Barakallahu feek.
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11-02-2009 @ 9:40 PM