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Hamdi
30-01-2009 @ 7:23 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Asalamu alykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu

There is this website that some of the youth use and it has some very confusing posts on it, a claim the sh. ibn uthaymeen (rahimullah) warned against a group "the salafi group"..while at the same time they (www.**********.com) claim to be upon the manhaj..it's just really confusing as it does not have a refrence as to when ibn uthaymeen said it (plus i doubt it, or it would be taken out of context!).
Many of the youth email /forward this article..all claiming to be from ibn uthaymeen (rahimullah).
Jazakallah khair

Umm yahya bint muhammed

(I just noticed that my title is abit misleading,i dnt know how to change it afwan).

sajid_chauhan_81
01-02-2009 @ 4:37 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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This is a very old doubt. It was refuted by Abu Iyaad Amjad Rafeeq hafidhahullah. You can listen to it on the troid website.

http://www.troid.org/media/audio/trolessons.mp3

This particular question comes at time 1:21:35. This entire tape entitled "Lessons in Manhaj" is very beneficial indeed.

Hamdi
03-02-2009 @ 3:37 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Jazakallah khair

Umm yahya bint muhammed

sajid_chauhan_81
18-05-2009 @ 5:28 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Some other threads which refute those who claim that Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen opposed the ascription to Salafiyyah.

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=6237&srow=41&erow=60&sortby=asc

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7982

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=5433&CFID=7085569&CFTOKEN=66684426

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=11&Topic=6704

Muhammad ibn Saalih Al-Uthaymeen...Ahlus Sunnah Are the Salafiyoon, and the Salafees Are not a Hizb - Arabic audio

sajid_chauhan_81
27-12-2009 @ 6:25 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Isaam bin Abdullaah as-Sinaanee, writes in the introduction to his book (pp. 26-27, second edition):


Then when I had completed this [book] "al-Baraa'ah" in its current form, and desired to release it, I requested his excellence(Shaykh Uthaymeen) to verify his fatwas that were in it, so he took it (the script) from me, and after two days, he phoned me (hafidhahullaah) saying, "I have finished it, your words are good, and the words of Shaykh Saalih [al-Fawzaan] are good, good".

Then I took them from the hand of his excellence, on 25/2/1421H, and on every page in which there was a fatwa of his, he placed his signature, along with some minor modifications in some expressions, and he showed me his comment at the end (of the book) recommending that the [section] on the Salafi Manhaj should precede the [section] on the Qutbi Manhaj, in its order. So I explained to him the reason for my placing the [section] on the Qutbi Manhaj, and he remained silent. So I acted upon what he alluded to (by his silence), hafidhahullaah, and on my behalf and that of the Muslims, [I ask] Allaah to reward him with the best reward and recompense.


Below are some points that are noted in the aticle 'Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-Uthaymeen Distinguishes Between The Salafi Manhaj and The Qutbi Manhaj'

   1. Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen read the book and agreed with it, showed acceptance of it, checked it and checked over his own fatwas in the book.

   2. Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen corroborates the existence of a "Qutbi Manhaj", that it is a world apart from the "Salafi Manhaj", in the sense that between them both is the distance between the East and the West, and this is because the author, Isaam bin Abdullaah as-Sinaanee, introduced the section with the title, "Two Ways That do Not Meet, How Different They Are, Between the East and the West", and then he titled "The Qutbi Manhaj" and then "The Salafi Manhaj", so Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen corroborated all of that.

   3. What he included under the section "The Salafi Manhaj" were clarifications from each of Imaam Ibn Baaz, Imaam al-Albaani and Imaam Ibn Uthaymeen, all of them clearing the lies against them regarding alleged advices they were supposed to have given to the people of Algeria in the fitnah there in the 90s, and they clarified that their advice was and is that they call to Allaah beginning with Tawheed, and not to fight against the authorities, and that to establish Islaam, they have to establish it in the people first, in reality. And those people who made these false allegations about them were the Qutbiyyah of Saudi Arabia - and that is the subject of another article.

   4. What the author included under the section "The Qutubi Manhaj" is the Takfir of Sayyid Qutb of all Muslim societies, and his claim of the obligation of a worldwide revolution in toppling all authorities as a form of jihaad and to replace them with an Islamic government, and his call for every one in every country to this goal.

   5. And it is clear from all of this that Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen corroborates the existence of "the Qutbiyyah" and "the Qutbee Manhaj" and this is not from the invention of the so called "Madkhalis". As we said, the hatred of these people is for all of the Scholars, its not about [url=http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=5527&srow=21&erow=40]Shaykh Rabee' al-Madkhali[/url], but the word "Madkhali" they use as a derogatory term is simply a veil through which they desire to attack the manhaj that all the Salafi Shaykhs were and are upon. That's what their real problem is.

For screenshots of the book plz. click the article link above.

Finally please refer the videos regarding [url=http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=8790]"Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen on ascription to as-Salafiyyah"[/url].

sajid_chauhan_81
07-01-2010 @ 1:40 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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The following link gives more explanation of what the Shaykh meant by "Salafiyyah is not a hizb"

http://www.TheMadkhalis.com/md/articles/ebhen-shaykh-ibn-uthaymin-on-shaykh-rabi-al-madkhali.cfm

Salafi-Markaz.Manch.
07-01-2010 @ 11:15 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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A Reply to the Doubts of Qutubiyyah on Ascription to the Sunnah and Salafiyyah
Author: SalafiPublications.Com

http://spubs.com/sps/downloads/pdf/SLF010004.pdf

This is a long article but it will give an excellent grounding in the affair of calling yourself Salafi.
It also refutes these doubts.


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