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abdul.azeem
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Assalaamuaalaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakaathuhu!

Below is the approximate translation of the membership form the Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind is distributing
(25 rupees for 5 years) all over the country. I request
someone to translate to Arabic and present it to either
Shaikh Rabee hafidhahullah or Shaikh Ubayd hafidhahullah if this is from the Manhaj of Salaf.

The alims(so called) are encouraging people to fill this proclaiming that if you don't enroll you'll have
to answer Allah(sub'haanahu wa ta'ala) and some of them
say that if you die seperating from this jamaah you die the death of Jaahilyah and on and on.


In the name of Allah the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

                                                      Markaz E Jamiyyath Ahle
                                                  Hadees Hind, 4116,
                                                    Ahle Hadees Manzil,
                                                    Urdu Bazar, Jamia
                                                    Masjid, Delhi.

     Agreement of membership

I bear witness that there is no God except Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is
His slave and Messenger (sallallahu Alaihi wa sallam).

1.I ______ son of ___________ after having enrolled as a member of  Markaz E Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind solemnly oath , making Allah the witness that I shall
abide by the Aqueedah, Manhaj and practice of Maslak E Ahle Hadees.

2.I am in full agreement of the Aqueedah , dawah and nazbu ayn of Markaz E Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees and I shall fully agree and follow these (rules) strictly
in order to gain the Raghbah of Allah.

3.I shall abide fully by the  Markaz E Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind?s rules and regulations as per their constitution.

4.I shall strive to propogate the dawah and message of Markaz E Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind which is based on the Kitaab and Sunnah to every citizen of India and I shall not be negligent in any way towards this and I shall keep inviting them to enroll into this.

5.For the acquiring of Nasb ul Ayn and the execution of the program of Markaz E Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind in accordance with its foundational principles and guidance of Markaz I will not be hesitant for any type of sacrifice and I shall always be ready to sacrifice (my) life and property.
Whatever decision the AMEER of Jamiyyat or the authorities of Markaz take, that is maroof, for the benefit of Maslak and Jamah and the country and the community I will hold it obligatory to follow.

Jazakallahu Khairan Katheer!

Wa'assalaamuaalaikum.


Our da?wah and our ?aqeedah is more beloved to us than our own selves, our wealth and our offspring.  So we are not prepared to part with it for gold, nor silver.  We say this so that no one may have hope in buying out our da?wah, nor should he think that  it is possible for him to purchase it from us for deenaar or dirham. Since the politicians already know this about us, so they have despaired of buying it from us with granted positions or wealth..Shaikh, the Allamah, Muqbil ibn Hadee Al Waa'di'ee (Rahimahullah).


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abdul.azeem
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Assalaamuaalaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakaathuhu!

I have uploaded the clear file. I request someone to
translate the same as soon as possible.

Jazakallahu Khair.

Wa'assalaamuaalaikum.



Our da?wah and our ?aqeedah is more beloved to us than our own selves, our wealth and our offspring.  So we are not prepared to part with it for gold, nor silver.  We say this so that no one may have hope in buying out our da?wah, nor should he think that  it is possible for him to purchase it from us for deenaar or dirham. Since the politicians already know this about us, so they have despaired of buying it from us with granted positions or wealth..Shaikh, the Allamah, Muqbil ibn Hadee Al Waa'di'ee (Rahimahullah).

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Bismillahirrahmaanirraheem!

Assalaamuaalaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakaathuhu!

Al-Waleed ibn Mazyad said, "Al-Awzaa'ee was born in Ba'labakk and grew
up in al-Kark, a village in the locality of al-Buqaa', then his mother
took him to Beirut. I heard him say,
'Stick to the narrations of those who preceeded, even if the people
reject you; and beware of the opinions of men even if they make their
words seem alluring, because the affair will be made clear whilst you
are upon a straight way'
".
[Taken from 'Mountains of Knowledge, page 148, printed by Salafi Publications . Sources: Tadhkirathul Huffaaz (1 / 178-185) of
ad-Dhahabi (rahimahullah) and Siyar A'laamin-Nubalaa by the same author].

Shaykh Abdul-Azeez Ibn Baaz (rahimahullaah) was asked on the 3rd of Sha'baan in 1412H, when some names were presented to him, and he was asked to give his view about them, and his position towards them and they were, Shaykh Muhammad Amaan al-Jaamee, Shaykh Rabee' bin Haadee, Shaykh Saalih as-Suhaymee, Shaykh Saalih al-Abood, Shaykh Faalih al-Harbee, Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee, and so the Shaykh replied, "And the names that you have mentioned, then they are from the most special (khawaass) of our brothers, and they are from the Scholars of the Sunnah who are well-known with uprightness and a good path, and a good aqeedah and with calling to Allaah the Mighty and Majestic".


And Shaykh Abdul-Azeez Ibn Baaz (rahimahullaah)also said about the Scholars of Madinah on the 28th of Rajab 1412H, "And our Brothers, the well known Scholars in Madeenah, we do not have a doubt about them. They are possessors of a sound aqeedah and they are from Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah, such as Shaikh Muhammad Amaan bin Alee, Shaikh Rabee' bin Haadee, Shaikh Saalih bin Sa'd as-Suhaimee, Shaikh Faalih bin Naafi' , Shaikh Muhammad bin Haadee [al-Madkhalee] - all of them are known to us to have Istiqaamah, knowledge and sound aqeedah. We ask increase in every good for them from Allaah and success in what pleases Him. However the callers of falsehood (du?aat ul-baatil) and the people who hunt (others) in murky waters, they are the ones who cause confusion amongst the people and who speak in these matters and they say: ?The intent was this and that?, and this is not good."

"What is the correct position for the Salafi youth concerning those who revile Shaykh Faalih al-Harbee and consider him to be from amongst the mutashaddiddeen and mutasarri'een (the harsh, severe and hasty ones)?"

The Shaykh replied, "Reviling a scholar because he speaks against the Innovators, then this is actually a praise in the view of the Salaf (i.e. to speak against the Innovators). And those who make this claim by way of this thing that they consider to be a revilment (upon a person), then it is not something that is considered a revilement (i.e. refuting innovators is not a revilement upon the one who does it). And Shaykh Faalih al-Harbee is from amongst the Salafee Scholars whom we consider to be upon a great deal of good, and they themselves consider that they engaged in Jihaad against the people of hizbiyyah. Him (i.e. Shaykh Faalih) and those who are with him from the scholars, the mujaahideen in the path of Allaah. We ask Allaah that He grants us and them success." End of QA session.

The Shaykh, Ahmad bin Yahyaa an-Najmee also said, "The Shaykh Faalih al-Harbee is a noble scholar (aalim jaleel) from Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah and from amongst the adherents to the Salafi Manhaj and no one speaks about him except one who is abandoned (makhdhool)."

Shaykh Rabee' bin Haadee al-Madkhalee said, "Shaykh Faalih al-Harbee is amongst the most knowledgeable of people of the Salafee Manhaj and amongst the most knowledgeable of people concerning the secret hide-outs of the Qutubiyyah and (people of) Hizbiyyah and other than them. And he is truthful in what he narrates from them and in what he criticises them for, and no one speaks against him except the people of innovation and misguidance, and this is because he is amongst the Carriers of the flag of the Sunnah, and amongst the defenders of it, and of those who call to it, and he does not fear the blame of anyone in the path of Allaah. It is for this reason that they wage a war against him, and they war against those who are like them, as is the way of the people of misguidance and innovation of all times and places. This is not something new to us, this is something old from the likes of the Khawaarij, the Mu'tazilah, the Rawaafid!! They revile the scholars of Islaam, and they accuse them of being Hashawiyyah (worthless ones) and al-Ghuthaa (scum)... to the end. This is well-known, meaning that the enemies of the Prophets reviled the Prophets and the enemies of the Companions reviled the Companions and the enemies of Ahl ul-Hadeeth reviled Ahl ul-Hadeeth, and we inshaa'allaah, are the Inheritors of the Prophets and the Inheritors of the Companions, so we call the people to traverse upon their way and their manhaj, in opposition to those besides us, and all praise is due to Allaah, and every nation has one to inherit from them."

Al-Allaamah Shaykh Ubayd al-Jaabiree said, "And Shaykh Faalih, and all praise is due to Allaah, is thiqah (trustworthy). The Shaykh, Faalih is thiqah, and he knows what he says, and he knows what he writes, and he knows what he spreads. Shaykh Faalih is thiqah with us and all praise is due to Allaah. He is upon the manhaj of the Salaf, and he is not in need that I be asked about him and that I give tazkiyah (commendation) to him. However I was asked so I answered! Shaykh Faalih, and all praise is due to Allaah, is thiqah from the angle of aqeedah, and manhaj, and knowledge, and all praise is due to Allaah." (Cassette on Questions Concerning the Issue of Maghraawee)

By the grace of Allah (sub'haanahu wa ta'ala) I was able to attend a lecture of Shaikh Falih (hafidhahullah) at masjid Rahmah in Newark, New Jersey few months from now. I asked a question about the declaration form
distributed by Jamiyyah Ahlil Hadeeth Hind which was answered by the Shaikh (hafidhahullah), may Allah preserve him. Below is the transciption of what Abu Uwais had translated into english , may Allah reward him and continue to make him a source of benefit for the people in the west.
This distribution was spearheaded by all the so called alims of Ahlil Hadeeth Hind, Jamiyah Salafiyah Banaras, Ahya hizbees, the current elected heads of Jamiyyah and I do not know of any exception.

Abu Uwais: Shaikh Falih was answering a question about a group called Jamiyyah Ahlil Hadees in India distributed a declaration form for people to sign and declare that they will be loyal to the Jamaah, its
principles and dawah and strive to propogate it; it also contains an oath in the name of Allah and they claim that they are minorities in India. They say that they adopted this way[when the salafees of Bangalore asked them to show if this is from the manhaj of salaf] because we are minorities in India.

So what do you( Shaikh Falih ) say?


Shaikh Falih said(As translated by Abu Uwais): The reason behind this is ignorance because in Islam there are no agreements between muslims that bind them like this and agreements and commitments like this other than the agreement of Islam and other than the call of islam .This ummah is one ummah .And that's the Ayah he (Shaikh Falih) brought earlier

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh (i.e. this Qur'ân), and be not divided among yourselves[], and remember Allâh's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islâmic Faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allâh makes His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.,) clear to you, that you may be guided."

[Surah Al-Imran, Ayah 103].

So it is Islam that gathered the people and it is principle of Islam that they gather so it is one group, upon Islam and it is to be connected to Islam for Islam is the haqq and is the truth and is the right way.
And this is one gathering and only agreement that is necessary and these ways that they bring about brings about seperation and it is
against the ayah

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh...."

This brings about seperation and these he said are the subul , the paths that seperate the muslims ; its the path that takes away . It is
an ignorant and Jahili concept like halaf, confideracy.
And the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) has said that there is no confideracy in Islam.
That a particular group of muslims gather at the expence of seperation from other muslims upon some type of agreement.
That which is based upon, help your brother whether he is being wronged or he himself is the one who is doing the wrong or when he is doing the injustice or he himself is unjust or he is the one who is oppressed.
And this is the understanding that the jaahili had , the people in jaahilyah but islam does not have the same logic. When Islam said help your brother when he is wronged or he is being wronged , he said that when he is doing wrong then prevent him from doing wrong and if he is being wronged then help him in that case.
He said that there is no confideracy in islam and he said that this is a very dangerous concept and everybody must be warned of this because a lot of these groups who claim to be or claiming to be , attributing themselves to be working in dawah and deen and Islamic groups, in propogating Islam they play in this manner with these issues and they say because we are minorities we can do this. We can come up with
special agreements and special covenants and special matters and programmes that connect us at the expense of other muslims. He said that this is incorrect and this is jaahileeyah, this is not something that the muslims should be involved in but the Ummah is one ummah and Islam is one Islam as we have taken in the lecture.


This is the reality of this jamiyyah; so beware of them once the knowledge has reached you and do not turn away . May Allah have mercy upon the Indian masses who are blinded in the name of following the Quran and the Sunnah by this Jamiyyah and its wings. While as the Shaikh (hafidhahullah) mentioned in his response that this way is the way of the innovators (Tareeqatu Mub'tadi'aa). This is just the beginning that you see which was hidden, and thus a scholar guides people with the light of Allah. We praise Allah for making it easy for us to reach the Ulema as far as we could..

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Our da?wah and our ?aqeedah is more beloved to us than our own selves, our wealth and our offspring.  So we are not prepared to part with it for gold, nor silver.  We say this so that no one may have hope in buying out our da?wah, nor should he think that  it is possible for him to purchase it from us for deenaar or dirham. Since the politicians already know this about us, so they have despaired of buying it from us with granted positions or wealth..Shaikh, the Allamah, Muqbil ibn Hadee Al Waa'di'ee (Rahimahullah).

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Bismillaah ar rahman ar raheem

Alhamdulillah As-Salatu Wa-Assalaamu Alaa Rasoolillah.



Shaykh Faalih al-Harbee on the Baatil Oath of the Jam?iyyah Ahl ul-Hadeeth, Hind

Refer:-

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=3391

Our da?wah and our ?aqeedah is more beloved to us than our own selves, our wealth and our offspring.  So we are not prepared to part with it for gold, nor silver.  We say this so that no one may have hope in buying out our da?wah, nor should he think that  it is possible for him to purchase it from us for deenaar or dirham. Since the politicians already know this about us, so they have despaired of buying it from us with granted positions or wealth..Shaikh, the Allamah, Muqbil ibn Hadee Al Waa'di'ee (Rahimahullah).






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