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 abu.abdurrahman
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Asalamu Alaykum wa Ramatullahee wa Barakatuhu
I begin with the Name of Allah the Most Exalted, the Most High,
The scholars have differed throughout the ages concerning the topic of Isbaal, as you will see from this short treatise?
There are many Hadeeth, which revolve around this topic, and I think it is best if I mention them so that you can see how I will reach to my final nateejah (end result).
<Tirmidthi> 1784- Chapter 8: Abdullah b. Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, said that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah exalt his mention, said: 'Allah will not look on the Day of Resurrection at him who drags his garment (thobe) out of arrogance.' <Hasan Saheeh> (Also in Muslim # 2085)
<Abu Dawood> 4080- Abu Hurairah, may Allah be pleased with him, said: 'As a person was praying, while he was Musbil (i.e. he was doing Isbaal) the Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, said: 'Go make your wudhu!' He then went and made his Wudhu. A man then said, 'O Messenger of Allah! Why did you order him to repeat his wudhu?' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah exalt his mention, said: 'He was praying while he was doing Isbaal with his garment, and indeed Allah, the Exalted, does not accept the prayer of him who is doing Isbaal.'
<Abu Dawood> 4081- Abu Dharr, may Allah be pleased with him, said that the Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, said: 'three people whom Allah will not talk to, nor look at them, nor purify them, and indeed for them is a severe punishment.' I said, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah? Indeed they are the losers, the Messenger then repeated this three times. I said, 'Who are they O Messenger of Allah? Indeed they are the losers!' He (the Prophet) then said: 'The one who does Isbaal, the Man'naan...'
4083- Abu Ad-Dardaa', may Allah be pleased with him, asked one of the companions of the Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, (He was called Ibn Handthaliyah) give us a few words, which will benefit us and not harm you! He said (i.e. Ibn Handthaliyah) the Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, said: 'What a good man Khuraim Al-Asadi is except for him lengthening his collar and doing Isbaal.' This news then reached Khuraim, who immediately took a blade and cut off the long part of his collar, such that it reached his ears, and he raised his thobe till it reached the middle of his leg?'
<Muslim> 2085/44- Ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, said that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah exalt his mention, said: 'Whoever drags his garment out of arrogance, Allah will not look at him on the Day of Resurrection.'
<Muslim> 2086/ 47- Ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, said: 'I passed by the Messenger of Allah, may Allah exalt his mention, while my garment was a bit loose, He then said: 'O Abdullah, raise your garment!' Ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, said, 'I continuously there afterwards took care of that. Some people then said: To where (did you raise it?)? He said, 'to the middle of my leg.'
<Bukhari> 5784: 'Whoever drags his garment out of arrogance, Allah will not look at him on the Day of Resurrection' Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, said: 'O Messenger of Allah! One of the sides of my garment is loose, and it falls below my ankle, except if I take care of it.' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah exalt his mention, said: 'You are not of those who do it out of arrogance!'
<Bukhari> 5787: Abu Hurairah, may Allah be pleased with him, said that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah exalt his mention, said: 'Whatever is below the ankles from the garment would be in the Fire.'
In another Hadeeth, 'O Ibn Umar, whatever touches the ground from the garment is in the Fire.'
In another Hadeeth: 'The believer's garment is to the half of his leg, there is no sin in keeping the garment between that level to his ankles, and whatever is below that would be in the Fire.'
In the Hadeeth of Ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, 'Whatever surpasses the ankles from the garment would be in the Fire.' (The above Hadeeth from # 5787 till this Hadeeth are all taken from the Fath al-Baari <explanation of Saheeh al-Bukhari>
The above Hadeeth point clearly to the fact that Isbaal is HARAM, and the meaning of dragging the clothing or garment is as it is clear from the word 'drag' to let it touch the ground, this is clear as in the above stated Hadeeth: 'Whatever is below the ankles is in the Fire.'
It may seem that the prohibition in the above Hadeeth is for both the male and female, but there is a hadeeth which excludes the women from this ruling, as in the Hadeeth of Umm Salamah, may Allah be pleased with her, in which the Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, legalized for the women to let their garments hang below the ankles for an arm span.
It may appear to some that the one who drags his clothes not out of arrogance, whether pants or thobes, that it is lawful to do so. This is unacceptable as is clarified by Ibn al-Arabi, may Allah have mercy on him.(not the sufi) He said: 'It is not lawful for the man to lengthen his garment below his ankle'. If the person says, 'I don't do it due to arrogance!' (it still is unlawful) since the prohibition has encompassed him linguistically, and whoever his case is as such, it is not lawful for him to do that which conflicts with the linguistic meaning of the Hadeeth, for indeed the one who lengthens his Thobe (garment-pants and the like) it would point to his arrogance?'
This is true, as you can see what greater arrogance is there if a person after hearing the words of the Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, says, 'This Hadeeth doesn't apply to me!' A'oodthubillah! Secondly there are Hadeeth, of which I have mentioned above, which are general as in the Hadeeth of Abu Dawood, Nasa'ee, and Tirmidthi <Saheeh> 'Raise your thobe to the half mark of your leg, if you do not wish to do so, then (above) your ankles, and beware of the Isbaal! For it indeed is from the arrogance, and Allah does not like the arrogance.'
As for the words of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah exalt his mention, to Abu Bakr in which he said, 'You are not of them?' and which is used by many people to justify what they are doing?it holds no proof for them, for the following reason:
1. If you look at the Hadeeth, Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, did not intentionally, and initially place the garment (thobe) below his ankle, rather it was above his ankle and would slide down below his ankle, and he would then raise it once more?this is not the case today! People today intentionally lower the garment below their ankles and put a belt on to keep it below their ankles?for if the pants happens to go above it, it would make the person look stupid (as some people say)!
You have to look at the quick response of the Companions, may Allah be pleased with them all, when they knew the ruling concerning the Isbaal, they immediately changed that and followed the Sunnah, look at the Hadeeth of Khuraim! Abu Hatim said that there is no problem in taking this Hadeeth.
Imam Ash-Shokani, may Allah have mercy on him, said that some of the scholars, openly declared that all forms of Isbaal as Haram, and there proofs are quite clear if you look at the above mentioned Hadeeth, for there are some which are general, and have no tie, whereas the other Hadeeth point out to the fact that it is Haram for him who wears his garment below his ankle out of arrogance?the Hadeeth have pointed to two cases, conditions, thus both take the same ruling.
Imam Ash-Shokani, may Allah have mercy on him, said: 'From the Hadeeth it is clear that the Isbaal is one of the greatest sins!'
Finally, you have to exclude one case from the above prohibition, that is the case where the person is in a dire need, for example lets say a person rushes out of his house, to catch the prayers in Jama'ah, and doesn't notice that his thobe or pants is below his ankles?
There is a Hadeeth, which states the above, and clarifies that it is not included in the prohibition.
Secondly during the time of war, it is lawful to cast fear in the hearts of the enemy, by doing certain things?
I hope the above is clear?Inshallah, mind you I haven't mentioned the scholars opinions in this topic?If I were to do so this email would come out double its size?!
Inshallah.
As for about folding your garments, Al-Hafidth b. Hajr, mentioned in his explanation of Saheeh al-Bukhari, Fath al-Bari, on pg. 316, the words of al-Ismaili: 'From this Hadeeth it is taken that folding the clothes is prohibited during the prayer in places other than the bottom of the clothing, or it may be that this took place during a travel, during which it is (lawful) to fold?'
The Hadeeth which is referred to in the above is the Hadeeth of Umar, in which: 'The Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, came out, and it was as though I was looking at the whiteness of his legs.'
I hope in the above is a clarification on this somewhat misunderstood issue
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| mujaahidirlande
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Ibn Hajr stated that Isma'ili did not have mushammir(to turn up)in his narration but related it as and the Prophet came out and I can almost see the glistening of his shanks.
Is this statement mushammir established?
To my knowledge the Prophet's usual garment was an izar, having worn an izar for a number of years the only way one could 'tuck' it up would be to stitch it, would that then still constitute the tucking up that is forbidden?
verily the cure for all ignorance is to question.
This message was edited by mujaahidirlande on 11-17-02 @ 12:57 AM
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| roshdy.majdoub
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Wa 'alaykum sallaam,
Could you clarify one point akhee? So do we take it that praying while being a Musbil invalidates wudhu? Do you have a sharh of that hadeeth from abu dawood??
wa jazakallahulkhayr,
Wa sallaamu'alaykum
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| Moosaa
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The hadeeth in question:
<Abu Dawood> 4080- Abu Hurairah, may Allah be pleased with him, said: 'As a person was praying, while he was Musbil (i.e. he was doing Isbaal) the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam, said: 'Go make wudhu!' He then went and made Wudhu. A man then said, 'O Messenger of Allah! Why did you order him to repeat his wudhu?' The Messenger of Allah, sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam, said: 'He was praying while he was doing Isbaal with his garment, and indeed Allah, the Exalted, does not accept the prayer of one who is doing Isbaal.'
Al-Albaanee declared the hadeeth to be dha'eef in Dha'eef Sunan Abee Daawood #638 and #4086.
He said in Mishkaat Al-Masaabeeh (#761), "Its chain is dha'eef, Aboo Ja'far is in it, and Yahyaa ibn Abee Katheer narrates from him, and he is Al-Ansaaree, Al-Madanee, the mu'ath-thin. He is unknown as Ibn Al-Qattaan said. It is mentioned in At-Taqreeb that he is layyin al-hadeeth (weak). So I say: Whoever believes the chain to be authentic has surely erred."
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This message was edited by Moosaa on 11-18-02 @ 7:19 PM
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16-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM
16-11-2002 @ 12:00 AM