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Topic: Refutation of Ihya Uloom ideen in English needed!
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 abu.abdurrahman
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Asalamu Alaykum,
I need a refutation of Ihya Uloom ideen in english. I know that there was a book published warning against it but I don't have it and need something quite soon, Beeithneellah Ta'ala. There is a brother who is a roomate with another brother next door to me and has left Sufiyyah and is accepting Salafiyyah by the will of ALLAH Azza wa jall. He just gave me the honors of doing away with his deviated set of books "Ihya uloom ideen", He requested something that was written against to further convince him. Please pass on what you can of what the Ulumaa have said in this regard.
Jazakumullahu Khayran
Was Salaam
Akhook Fil Islaame
Abu Abdurrahman as salafee al kanadi
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| abu.buthaina
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as-salam alaykum
I found this on troid if this is of any help:
Ibn al-Jawzee (d.597H) said in al-Muntazim (9/169-170):
"He began to write the book al-Ihyaa in al-Quds and finished it in Damascus, however, he wrote it upon the way of the Sufis and did away with the rules of Fiqh... Verily, the reason for his turning away from the requirements of Fiqh in that which he quotes is that he accompanied the Sufis and regarded their condition to be the goal... He mentioned in his book al-Ihyaa a lot of fabricated and weak hadeeth, and that was due to his insufficient knowledge of narrations, so would that he had submitted them for examination to those who knew, but rather he reported them like one who gathers wood at night."
Ibn al-Jawzee also said in Minhaaj al-Qaasideen (p.3 of the abridgement):
"Know that in the book al-Ihyaa are dangerous things only known to the scholars, and the least of them are the baseless and fabricated ahaadeeth and those which only trace back to the Companions which he relates as being from the Messenger sallallahu ?alayhi wa sallam himself, and indeed he merely reported them as he found them, not that he invented them; and it is not allowed to worship using a fabricated hadeeth, nor to be taken in by a made up wording. How can it be sanctioned for you to pray prayers of the day and night and the Messenger of Allah sallallahu ?alayhi wa sallam never said a single word about them? How can you allow your hearing to be invaded by the talk of the Sufis which he gathered and encouraged that it be acted upon, so much as can not be counted."
Adh-Dhahabee said in Siyar A?lam an-Nubalaa (19/339):
"As for al-Ihyaa, it contains a large number of baseless hadeeth. There is much good in it if only it did not have in it the manners, ways and asceticism of the philosophers and misguided Sufis."
also:
Shaykh al-Islam [Ibn Taymiyah] was asked about this book, and he replied as follows:
?With regard to the books Qoot al-Quloob and the similar book al-Ihya?, which speak of the actions of the heart such as patience, gratitude, love, trust in Allaah, Tawheed (belief in Allah alone) and so on, Abu Taalib [the author of Qoot al-Quloob] has more knowledge of hadeeth, reports and the views of scholars who spoke of spiritual matters among the Sufis and others than Abu Haamid al-Ghazzaali, and his words are more correct, more precise and further removed from bid?ah (innovation). But nevertheless Qoot al-Quloob includes da?eef (weak) and mawdoo? (fabricated) ahaadeeth, and many unacceptable things. With regard to what is said in al-Ihya? about things that may doom a person to Hell, such as pride, self-admiration, showing off, malicious envy, etc., most of it is taken from al-Haarith al-Muhaasibi in al-Ri?aayah; some of it is acceptable and some of it is to be rejected, and some of it is controversial. There is a great deal of good in al-Ihya? but it also contains some blameworthy material and some corrupt material such as the words of the philosophers on Tawheed, Prophethood and the Resurrection. When he deals with Sufi topics it is like one who has taken an enemy of the Muslims and dressed him in Muslim garb. The leaders of Islam denounced Abu Haamid for this feature of his books, and they said that he was made sick by al-Shifa?, meaning Shifa? Ibn Seena, which is about philosophy. [Shifa? literally means ?healing? in Arabic].
Al-Ihya? contains da?eef (weak) ahaadeeth and reports, and even many mawdoo? (fabricated) reports.
It contains many of the errors and myths of the Sufis.
Nevertheless it also contains some of the words of Sufi shaykhs who correctly understand the actions of the heart in accordance with the Qur?aan and Sunnah, and it speaks of acts of worship and etiquette in accordance with the Qur?aan and Sunnah; such material outweighs the material that is to be rejected. This is why people differed and disputed concerning it.? (Majmoo? al-Fataawa, vol 10, p. 551).
Hence our advice is that people should not read it, especially since there other books in the same field which mean that there is no need for it, such as Haadi al-Arwaah, al-Fawaa?id, Zaad al-Ma?aad by Ibn al-Qayyim; al-?Uboodiyyah and al-Eemaan by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah; Lataa?if al-Ma?aarif, and Risaalat al-Khushoo? fi?l-Salaah, by Ibn Rajab. There is also a summary of Ihya? ?Uloom al-Deen from which one may benefit, such as Mukhtasar Manhaaj al-Qaasideen by Ibn Qudaamah. In the case of a student (taalib al-?ilm) who has a strong foundation of knowledge, there is nothing wrong with him reading it if he is able to distinguish between what is saheeh (sound) and what is da?eef (weak), what is true and what is false.
Hope this is of a little help
wa salaam alaykum
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| AbooTasneem
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If you contact brother Shiraz Mohammedali at: shiraz@slt.lk he might be able to help you in this issue.
Back in September of 1999 he sent out something called:
"Warning Against the Book "Ihyaa Uloom Ud-Deen, in the Scale of the Scholars and Historians".
The brother lives in Sri Lanka and I hope that this email address is correct because he might have changed it since then.
As a side note, I remember hearing Shaikh al-Albaanee say that one of the best sources (if not the best) for weak and forged hadeeths is 'Ihyaa Uloomid Deen' !
كن مستفيدا أو مفيدا
أو اسكت بحلم
This message was edited by AbooTasneem on 11-16-02 @ 12:43 PM
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| abu.talhah.a
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Yes, this email address is correct and is still functioning. I tried searching for this article but I don't seem to have it. So best would be to contact the brother directly.
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| UmmAbdAziz
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Bismillah
Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah,
You can find the booklet "The Book ?Ihyaa ?Uloomud-Deen? in The Scale of the Scholars and Historians" on www.troid.org. It is in the MANHAJ section, "Leaving innovation and it's people".
Was Salaamu Alaikum
Ibn Umar (d. 84H) said: "Every innovation is misguidance, even if the people see it as something good." (Reported by Abu Shaamah no. 39)
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