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Topic: Important Advice from Shaykh Rabee' to the West
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Masjid.Rahmah
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Abu Awais (After a recent sitting with Shaykh Rabee')
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I wanted some time to collect my thoughts and then present what Sheikh Rabee? had entrusted me to relay of his words in a more uniformed fashion. But it appears that assumptions, whispers, and suspicions about what the sheikh might have said or even may have meant leaves me no choice but to mention it in a summarized form. Those matters I recall what the sheikh said since it was not recorded. The sheikh basically stressed the harms of Salafees being hard upon one another and having little gentleness and mercy among themselves and that this matter of harshness is the tool that is being used to destroy the Salafees from the inside. He gave an example to show the absence of mercy as a man having gasoline poured on him, and rather than removing it, his brother would ignite it. Another example he gave was a man needing an operation, rather than help him to the hospital; one inflicts more pain on him. And he expressed the fact that medicine through fire (cauterization) is the last means of cure. There are many times our brothers will have confusion or doubt about the issues they will have a need to be taken to the hospital of knowledge; rather than the harshness we tend to treat them. And he brought many of the ayaat of Qur?an and the ahadeeth referring to gentleness and its beauty and harshness and how ugly it is, and he ordered the brothers to have harmony and togetherness and he often went into talking about Ahlul-bid?ah and particularly Abul-Hasan al Mar?abee and that the stance toward Ahlul-bid?ah and the people of hizbiyyah should be harsh because of their bid?ah. He then was questioned about the followers of Mar?abee, how they should be dealt with. He said they should be communicated with (given da?wah) gently until such time as you see obstinacy for the man, then they should be left alone. Then he has a special request for the brothers using the term Dar-ul Hadeeth and those who use the term similar to it, for the centers and the like. That they should not use this term or its equivalent, since it is understood that the usage of this term historically has been used for the institutions of learning of great scholars. And that the usage of this term without being a center of learning for scholars is a joke, that allows those from Ahlul-bid?ah who have knowledge of the reality to laugh at us. And the sheikh stressed this clearly and stayed upon this point for several minutes stressing it and asking that it be made clear to the brothers. And the sheikh also said some people are writing ?Salafi and Atharee?etc.? at the end of names?he said this is not proper. Sheikh al-Albaanee, Sheikh bin Baz or himself never did this. This is a summarized version of what I recall the sheikh saying. We hope that all the brothers and sisters would benefit from his advice and begin to include gentleness in dealing with one another and avoid harshness. And we ask Allaah to grant Sheikh Rabee? a long life full of good health and acts of obedience and that he continue to be a benefit for the Ummah.
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This message was edited by Masjid.Rahmah on 5-5-04 @ 6:53 AM
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aboo.sufyaan.M
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Aboo Sufyaan Muhammad bin 'Umar Bin Muhammad Bin 'Uthmaan
(Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
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Ameen wa Jazakallaah khayraan! Aboo Sufyaan Muhammad
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shahid393
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Aboo Husaam Shaheed ibn George Williams
(Wichita, KS USA)
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as-salaamu 'alaykum, here in kansas, we have named our musallaa dar-us-sunnah. i am of the opinion that this name should change, because we get the sunnah from the hadeeth. so if dar-ul-hadeeth is not acceptable, then i feel that dar-us-sunnah is also not acceptable. am i correct in my understanding? i don't want to make a move without clarity.
aboo husaam shaheed ibn george williams wichita, ks usa
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AbooTasneem
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Aboo Dihyah Dawud Adib
(Philadelphia, PA U.S.A.)
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I would like to add to my brother, Aboo Uways' statements of the meeting with Shaikh Rabee that lovely morning of Jumu'ah. He was also asked the question: "How do we deal with the Salafees who are with al-Ma'ribee?" The Shaikh said:
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"Those who are with Ma'ribee are not salafees"! |
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Dawud Adib the son of David C.White Sr. وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية :" الراد على أهل البدع مجاهد"
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amr.basheer
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aboo ubaidah amr bin basheer
(London and Unaizah)
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم الحمد لله والصلاة السلام على رسول الله وعلى آله وصحبه ومن اتبع هداه أما بعد: Just a point in regards to what shaikh rabee mentioned as centres of learning and their historical usage. titles were given to centres according to what was taught. For example in Damascus [dimishq], which was the capital for a long period of time, the centres were categorised as follows 1] centres for quraan studies were named ?daar ul-quraan al-kareem?? eg. daar ul-quraan al-kareem al-juzariyyah 2] centres for hadeeth studies were named ?daar ul-hadeeth?? eg. daar ul-hadeeth al-ashrafiyyah which has been headed by ibn salaah, an-nawawee, al-mizzi, as-subki, ibn katheer, daar ul-hadeeth al-humusiyyah which has been headed by al-alaa?ee and daar ul-hadeeth as-sakariyyah which has been headed by ibn taymiyyah and his forefathers, and adh-dhahabi, 3] centres for quraan and hadeeth were named ?daar ul-quraan wal-hadeeth?? 4] centres for the madhhabs were named ?al-madrasah?? eg. Al-madrasah al-atabakkiyah for the shafi?ee?s, al-madrasah al-asadiyyah for the ahnaaf, and so on for the other madhhabs as well like the hannabilah, maalikiyyah and the dhaariyyah. then there were the centres for the soofiyyah and others, mainly nothing to do with the sunnah, like ar-ribaat..., al-khaaniqah..., az-zaawiyah... at-turbah... also the masaajid were named and they were at times centres of learning eg. masjid ibn humayd, or al-jaami ar-rabwah. as for books related to centres, then the famous one is ?ad-daaris fi taarikh al-madaaris? by abd ul-qaadir an-nu?aymee ad-dimishqi [d.927]. in this book he lists all the centres of dimishq, when they were set up, how and by whom, source of funding, location and biographies of their heads. you will also find words in the books of taarikh like al-bidaayah, siyar, al-ibar? in our times in the village of dammaj, daar ul-hadeeth is the most well known centre, being headed by shaikh muqbil, rahimullaah, and now shaikh yahya al-hujuree. you can find info about it in several different books; one recent one contains many photos of its different parts. aboo ubaidah
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