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26-01-2004 @ 11:46 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Bismillaah Alhamdulillaah Wa salaatu wa salaamu 'alaa Rasoolillaah

As-salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh

Can anyone give me some detailed info on Zaid Shakir?

I know that he is a sufi but I need a more detailed refutation of him.

He is the translator of the book:


He also wrote the intro to the book in which he states
"Like all of the scholars of his era, Ibn Rajab was well-versed in the science of Tasawwuf, that is, Sufism ... Despite his manifest sufi tendencies, in todays highly polarized and overly polemical Muslim world Ibn Rajab would more likely be categorized as a salafi."

I would like to know what is the status of the original book by Ibn Rajab.
Also, what should we do with this translation.

Jazaakumallaahu khair.  Was-salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh

Abu Aasiyah Amir ibn Omar Al-Belizee
and Umm Aasiyah Inshirah bint Umar Al-Amrikiyyah

27-01-2004 @ 1:30 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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AFWAN....WRONG .....TOPIC........


'Umar ibn 'Abdul-'Azeez said:((There is no excuse for anyone, after the Sunnah, to be misguided upon error which he thought was guidance)).
'as-Sunnah (no.95) of al-Marwazee'

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27-01-2004 @ 3:35 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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الحمد لله رب العالمين، والصلاة والسلام على نبينا وسيدنا محمد الأمين، وعلى آله وصحابته أجمعين

All I know of him now is his being a full time instructor at Al Majnoon institute in California which is run by Hamza Useless As Soofi.

Quoted Jamaal bin Fareehaan al-Haarithee the following narrations, under the chapter heading, "The Salaf Would Make A Judgement of an Invididual By His Companionship", in "Lumm ad-Durr al-Manthoor", checked, and revised by Shaikh Saalih al-Fawzaan.

However, as for the one who ascribes himself to the Salafus-Saalih collectively - then he ascribes himself to that which is protected from mistakes. Imaam Al Albani, rahimahullaah
27-01-2004 @ 8:03 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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As salaamu alakum wa rahmatullah.

Do we really need a more detailed refutation of one who openly alligns himself with the Sufi's?!!

Time is precious, and sometimes a sentence or even a word or two is sufficient as a warning against some people.

However for the sake of benefit and clarity...

I know this Zaid Shaakir, and he is a very dangerous person. Such that he can look to a persons style of dress and then formulate his approach to your questions about his methodology.

It is enough for me that he, with much energy and vigor is translating and teaching the works of Abul Haarith Al-Muhaasibi. I was there years ago when in his little "Deen Intensive" program he down played the scholars' (namely Imam Ahmad) refutations of him.

Another subtle point comes to my mind.

Sh. Saalih Al-Fawzaan (hafidhahullah) mentioned this issue in Al-Ajwibaat al Mufeedah that was being expounded upon by Br. Abdul Rahman Al-Afrikee (jaza Allahu kheira).

The Shaykh said it was true and well known at his time that Abul Haarith was (bahoorul Ilm) ; an ocean of knowledge. However, he was largely abandoned by the Sunni community of his time.  Recall Sh. Saalih Al Ashaykh?s (May Allah lengthen his life and raise his status) lecture [From the Fountains of Imam Ahmad]. The speech of Imam Ahmad after eavesdropping on one of Abul Haarith's sittings:

" I have never heard the like of such speech in my life. However, do not sit with him anymore."

The fact that someone is knowledgeable does not bar them from being abandoned. In fact they are more deserving of such as they can easily make truth look like falsehood and vice-versa. ? It?s a lesson.

At any rate, this Shaakir is involved and has background in about every deviation known today, from modernism to takfir, from Sufism to Shiaism. Most of which is (unfortunately) caught on tape.

However, it is his alliance with Hamza Yusuf and their rockstar-like behavior with the Muslims is most laughable.

See Hamza Yusuf & Zaid Shaakir,  LIVE AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN!  
W/opening act Siraaj Wahhaj!

Allahul Musta'aan.

Abul Hasan Yusuf Al-Nebraski


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27-01-2004 @ 8:10 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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As-salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh

Na'am akh is enough to know someone aligns themselves with the soofees to be sure of his deviation.  Jazaakallaahu khair for the extra will be helpful to us when explaining his specific deviations.

If anyone can answer the remaining questions it would be very beneficial, Insha'Allaah.

We would like to know what is the status of the original book by Ibn Rajab?

What should we do with this translation?

Jazaakumallaahu khair.  Was-salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh

Abu Aasiyah Amir ibn Omar Al-Belizee
and Umm Aasiyah Inshirah bint Umar Al-Amrikiyyah

28-01-2004 @ 1:47 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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"Al-Muhaasibee was a soofee ascetic from Baghdaad. Even though he was firm in some issues that were in accordance with the way of the Salaf, like how he made takfeer of his own father because he withheld from saying that the Qur'aan is not a created thing, the scholars still warned against him and his books. Aboo Zur'ah Ar-Raazee said, "Be warned about these books! They are books of innovation and misguidance!" Refer to Siyaru A'laam An-Nubalaa' (12/110-112)."

Moosaa Richardson

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28-01-2004 @ 7:01 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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What can be recognized about Zaid Shaakir is that he is not one that is known for his stability on any one way.

According to those who were close to him, he used to strongly defend the Shia during and after the Iranian Revolution.

I heard him with my own ears speaking in public against the Muslim rulers of Saudi Arabia in order to rile the people up against them. Implying that they are slaves to the Taghoot (USA), that they prevent Qurans from being sent to African Nations like the Sudan, that they sent millions in gifts to the french-backed leaders who squelshed the Islamic revolution of the FIS in Algeria, and that we should be "unified in our rejection of this regime."
Video lecture: The New World Order; circa 1990 (around Gulf war time)

He tried acting salafi for a while but it didn't work out I guess.

Then he moved to Syria and surrounded himself with the Sufis at Abu Nur Islamic Institute and elsewhere. Claiming that now his Jihad is to bring mercy and reconciliation back between the Muslims. Which as everyone should know by now equals: Unity amongst all deviants against the Salafi's.

It seems that the only thing he is setteled and steadfast on is deviation.

And Allah knows best.

I ask Allah for good condition and saftey, and that He guide me and all the Muslims to Islam and the Sunnah.

wa salaam,

Abul Hasan Yusuf Al-Nebraski

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