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Topic: Game Over - Ibn Fulaan al-Miskeen busted!!
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Uncovering The Indignant Scandal Of 'Ibn Fulaan al-Miskeen'
[Yet another Milestone in Undressing the QSS Web of Deceit,
Treachery and Fraud]
Finally, the mystery of 'Ibn Fulaan al-Miskeen' is exposed to be another underhanded QSS plot. It has emanated from two hasty youth who volunteer with QSS, namely Ali Sabir of Detroit and Rasheed Gonzales of Toronto. Pay attention to the undisputable technical evidence, as well as the various benefits throughout the essay. In addition to showing that the hastiness of the youth at QSS, it demonstrates the obstinate fraud that QSS represents. |
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| AbuUkkaasha
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As-Salaamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakaatuhu
Can you please locate the article for us here because I have not been able to locate the article from the link you posted. If you know where the article is, could you just post it for the Salafiyoon so that we may read it? Baraka Allaahu Feek!
من خالف هذا المنهج- يعني منهج السلف-و سار على منهج آخر فانه ليس منا و لسنا منه, و لا ننتسب اليه, ولا ينتسب الينا, و لا يسمى جماعة, و انما يسمى فرقة من الفرق الضالة
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| Ahmad.Assing
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| haneef.al-canadee
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As-Salaamu 'Alaykum
Maa Shaa' Allaah. An excellent knowledge based refutation.
Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum
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| Abu.Abdullah.A
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Allaahul-Musta'aan. This is the effect of Hizbiyyah, when you don't take correct positions with the Scholars, and pick and choose just to suit the interests of your Jam'iyyah.
Piece of advice. When you are involved in da'wah, you are not involved in da'wah for the sake of the people and your public party image. You are involved in da'wah to call people to the Salafee aqeedah and manhaj that you are already supposed to have learned and understood and implemented yourself before calling others to it. These brothers neither learned nor understood the Salafee manhaj, which is why their own party-politics was more precious to them than abiding by the Salafee manhaj in the times of tribulation.
May Allah guide these brothers to leave their wrong ways and to make tawbah and to hold fast to the truth and to put right what they put wrong. Even now we still hope for and pray for good for them. But if they persist...
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وَاتْلُ عَلَيْهِمْ نَبَأَ الَّذِيَ آتَيْنَاهُ آيَاتِنَا فَانسَلَخَ مِنْهَا فَأَتْبَعَهُ الشَّيْطَانُ فَكَانَ مِنَ الْغَاوِينَ ¤ وَلَوْ شِئْنَا لَرَفَعْنَاهُ بِهَا وَلَـكِنَّهُ أَخْلَدَ إِلَى الأَرْضِ وَاتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ فَمَثَلُهُ كَمَثَلِ الْكَلْبِ إِن تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْهِ يَلْهَثْ أَوْ تَتْرُكْهُ يَلْهَث ذَّلِكَ مَثَلُ الْقَوْمِ الَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِآيَاتِنَا فَاقْصُصِ الْقَصَصَ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ ¤ And recite (O Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam)) to them the story of him to whom We gave Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), but he threw them away, so Shaitân (Satan) followed him up, and he became of those who went astray. And had We willed, We would surely have elevated him therewith but he clung to the earth and followed his own vain desire. So his description is the description of a dog: if you drive him away, he lolls his tongue out, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls his tongue out. Such is the description of the people who reject Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.). So relate the stories, perhaps they may reflect. |
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| AbooTasneem
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In light of the news that has reached us this week concerning the infamous Ibn Fulaan al-Miskeen, how now will one understand this statement that was posted some months back here on Salafitalk.net.
Please refer to Affairs of Manhaj under "Ibn Fulaan Al-Miskeen is a Deceitful Fitnah Monger so BEWARE"! posted by Moosaa Richardson.
Correction #2-
Ibn Fulan al-Miskeen said:
..."Another brother told me that while you were in Philly in the hotel lobby you recieved a phone call from a brother who said that Shaykh al-Halabi wanted to talk with you..."
I (Dawud Adib) say: This is not true or correct! Actually I was in room #2226 when I got the call from Ali Sabir. I immediately put on the speaker phone because I wanted those present to hear what was going on and could be witnesses"...
Aboo Tasneem Dawud Adib
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| Moosaa
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this is just the TIP of the iceberg...
coming soon in shaa' Allaah:
QSS's underhanded blackmail tactics...
Moosaa Richardson
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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
أستغفرك وأتوب إليك
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| Abul.HasanMalik
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
After reading this refutation from our brothers at Troid, may Allah preserve them, I wanted to thank them in working by the hadeeth on the authority of al-Ash?ath Ibn Qays that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه و سلم said: ?Whoever doesn?t thank the people then he has not thanked Allah.? [Collected by Ahmad and is authenticated by al-Muhaddith al-Albaanee in as-Saheehah (no. 416)].
Indeed from the most important of affairs in the Religion of Allaah is the uncovering of the deception of those whose goal is the spread fitnah and corruption in an attempt to harm the Salafiyyeen and to create an atmosphere of hatred and distrust for the youths of this noble da?wah. But with every diffuculty there comes ease.
Al-Muhaddith al-Albaanee spoke about the likes of this pseudonym trickery in the introduction of his tremendous book an-Naseehah, a refutation on a corrupt fabricator named Hassaan ?Abdul-Mannaan. The Shaykh says in the footnote on page 5, ?And it became evident to me that he began to circulate his books, in the end, after his reality was uncovered, and his affair exposed, under the pseudonym Aboo Suhayb al-Karamee!! Going to extremes in distortion and deception! And drowning in misguidance and lying!! Nay indeed after that he circulated books with his introductions and commentary without any name or kunyah!!?
He goes on to say at page 7: ?Indeed, I know that some from my brothers from the callers to the Sunnah or those, diligent upon it, might say to themselves, ?Is there not in this refutation a promotion of this ignorant one and making this subverter known?!!?
I say (al-Albaanee): Then what? Is it not obligatory to uncover the ingorance of the foolish to warn against it?! Is this not in itself the way of the scholars of Islaam, from the times of old, in refutation of every devient opposer and criticism of every insolent subverter?!
Then is not remaining silent about the likes of him [opening] a path for the common folk and the ragtag riffraff to be decieved?!
So an-Naseehah (sincere advice) is the foundation of the Religion, and uncovering falsehood is a defense of the clear truth ?And Allaah will help those who help Him.? even if it comes after?? [End of the Shaykh?s words]
So this in truth is a great aid to the da?wah of the people of hadeeth and I ask that Allaah reward its authors and those who circulate it. I ask Allaah to destroy the plots of the companions of deception. And they should know that before any of the people that Allaah is surely All-Knowing of all that they do, and a Watcher over all things.
Abul-Hasan Maalik Al-Akhdar
أهل الحديث هم أهل النبي وإن
لم يصحبوا نفسه أنفاسه صحبوا
This message was edited by Abul.HasanMalik on 5-7-03 @ 11:02 AM
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| MaazQureshi
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It is interesting to note that 'Ibn Fulaan al-Miskeen' is also registered on the Siraat forums - a mumayyi'ee revival of Sabeelul-Mu'mineen. The last time an organization got caught in such a scandalous e-mail fraud was when the Hisham Kabbani's organization and his right hand man Mateen Siddiqui along with Fuad al-Haddad were caught using anonymous e-mail accounts and numerous forum identities to cause problems for Ahlus-Sunnah. This happened back in 1997-1998, funny that QSS should follow in those footsteps in 2003...
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| aqeel.walker
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Ahsantum!!!
I was thinking the exact same thing Maaz, Baarakallaahu feekum. When I read this I thought about the tussles and battles that I went through with that wicked man Fuad al-Haddad and his Ash'aree foolishness. I used to debate with him often on AOL forums and he would do this foolishness of using many different screen names. So it appeared to the reader as though I was debating with about 6 different people along with about 4 or 5 others cheering them on. You could feel the same writing style from the authors of the posts and they all seemed to be "ganging up" on me as we say. However, the fool became so confident of himself that he had been forgetting to remove his infamous signature "Fuad al-Haddad, Naqshabandee Haqqani Society of America". So when looking back at the posts if one read the garbage all the way to the end, you would see at the bottom that he had signed them with his Fuad al-Haddad and society name!!!!
So really, all along I was debating the same fool and he was using different screen names to make it appear as if the whole Dunyaa was against me. Needless to say, when he was exposed he disappeared from the forum completely and was the laughing stock. I heard that he later showed up on another Internet provider's Islam forum doing the same stuff.
I hope this is a lesson well learned by the brothers who were involved and I hope to Allaah that they do not become arrogant and allow themselves to be harmed further and destroyed by the plotting of Shaytaan. I hope that they humbly repent and be grateful to those who caught them by the hands and prevented them from any further oppression and wrongdoing against the Salafiyyon.
May Allaah reward the brothers at TROID for their diligent work in bringing this to light. You brothers have Sherlock Holmes beat. LOL
was-salaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullaah
Aqeel
قال الشيخ ابن باز الطائفة المنصورة هي الفرقة الناجية هما واحدة هم أهل السنة و الجماعة و هم السلفيون
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| abu.bilal
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Ma'shallah' hows the saying go..? "U can run but you can't hide....!" That statement is from the Kufaar, but what are we doing, as Muslims thinking that we can hide our 'affairs' from Allahu Sunhana wa'tala when He informs us that He is All-Seeing, All-Knowing, and we ALL should remember that the Haqq will always prevail!
There are now possibly some brothers, perhaps even sisters that have now had their eyes 'opened' to the true reality of the Hizbee organization known as the Quraan wa'Sunnah Society.
Barakallahu feekum, for this 'informative', and much needed post. This organization - QSS, may Allah Guide to the reality of Dawah Salafeeyah, or break their backs!
Alhamdulilah, this shows that any 'organization' is only as good as it's leader! From 'poor and ignorant' leadership comes poor and ignorant followers, not to say that all the brothers at the QSS are to fall under that 'category', but to think that one would stay around under such guidance could stem from one of two reasons, 1) The brother or Sister just doesn't know any better or, 2) They are being 'duped, fooled perhaps even being lied too!
I pray that the brothers and sisters there at the QSS, who want to establish themselves on this Manhaj, see the reality of the hizb they may be clinging to, and remove themselves from that soon to be sunk ship. It would be unfortunate to see them, fall into the same situation of those already spoken of in this post concerning Ibn Fulaan al-Miskeen and other than them.
Wa'Allahu alam.
Akh Abul Hasan, barakallahu feekum for the reminder you offered in this thread...
May Allahu Subhana wa'tala continue to aid those of us who are sincere in trying to establish this Dawah.
Abu Bilal
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| Abul.HasanMalik
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I wanted to share briefly another benefit from the people of knowledge around those who hide behind these pseudonyms and pen names for the purpose of attacking the salafiyyeen.
Al-Muhaddith Al-Albaanee in the introduction of his book Adaab Az-Zafaaf [pg. 8] while commenting on an author who he had refuted previously said:
| ?And in this introduction I do not desire to turn to the refutation of his treatise once more, and declare everything that is in it from his errors, mistakes, and false claims, and at the end of it his turning to an enemy of the Sunnah, the people of Hadeeth, and the callers to Tawheed who are known, he (this enemy) is none other than Habeebur-Rahman Al-A?thamee who hid behind the pseudonym Arshad As-Salafee because of his cowardice and lack of scholarly and literary courage, he hid behind it (the pseudonym) in his book 'Al-Albaanee shudhudhuhu wa Akhtaa?uhu' (Al-Albaanee his anomalies and errors)...? |
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So these words of the Sheikh show that the true nature of those who attack the Salafiyyeen from behind these pen names [and computer screens] is cowardice and lack of backbone, and if they were men of truth and knowledge they would openly proclaim there positions and be prepared to be held accountable for that which they allege.
Abul-Hasan Malik Al-Akhdar
أهل الحديث هم أهل النبي وإن
لم يصحبوا نفسه أنفاسه صحبوا
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| jalil.meekins
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as-salaamu alaykum-
Verily this is another victory for the people of the sunnah wa hadeeth, and what is clearly evident from our religion is that Allah will expose you even in the privacy of your own homes. I congradulate ahlus-Sunnah for yet another proof filled refutation and uncovering of the hizbi shubaahat of those who rather leave the protection of the Salafys and flee twards those of bidah.
Love for Ahlus-Sunnah wa Hadeeth Aboo Zaahid
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| sajid_chauhan_81
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| Shaykh al-Albaanee said, "Indeed, I know that some from my brothers from the callers to the Sunnah or those, diligent upon it, might say to themselves, "Is there not in this refutation a promotion of this ignorant one and making this subverter known?!!" |
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I say (al-Albaanee): Then what? Is it not obligatory to uncover the ingorance of the foolish to warn against it?! Is this not in itself the way of the scholars of Islaam, from the times of old, in refutation of every deviant opposer and criticism of every insolent subverter?!
Then is not remaining silent about the likes of him [opening] a path for the common folk and the ragtag riffraff to be deceived?!
So an-Naseehah (sincere advice) is the foundation of the Religion, and uncovering falsehood is a defense of the clear truth "And Allaah will help those who help Him." even if it comes after" [End of the Shaykhs words] |
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Translated by Br. Abul Hasan Malik in his post above.
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