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ilyas.abu.ameenah
16-02-2003 @ 12:00 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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As selam aleykum,
can anybody help me in this issue. Here in Germany they deal with the issue about Ahlu-Bidah and Mubtadiī  very general. They donīt say Names like Salman and Safar are from Ahlu-Bidah and so on. They say only everybody who oppose the way of the Salaf is not on the Dawa us-Salafiyyah. And when we ask them, ok, who is then today a Mubtadi or Ahlu-Bidah. They say then:? Brother donīt waste your time only for this part  ? or ? that is not our job to say so and so is Mubtadi or Ahlu-Bidah. Learn your Deen properly and that is enough. Take Scholars like Ibn Taymiya, Abdul Wahhab, Ibn Baz and so on.?
But when we donīt know who is a Mubtadi or from Ahlu-Bidah, then perhaps we take knowledge from them and then we mix the pure Dawah us-Salafiyyah with Baatil. And besides this, that is not from the Manhaj of the Salaf, that we mix with the Ahlu-Bidah.
But the argument that they take is, that we here in Germany are so few, and when we say Names like you say, then we split the Dawah us-Salafiyyah here in Germany. And today we are so few, after this (say so and so is Mubtadi or Ahlu-Bidah) we are then decrease.
So my request is: Can anybody give me a list about who is today from the Ahlu-Bidah, from were the Scholars warned against. I have much articles about this from .spubs.com, but this articles are to extensive to translate.
What I need is, like this:

Salman al-Awdah is a Mubtadi because in so and so cassette he said, and so and so book he wrote. And so and so Scholars had warned against him because. With source.

It must be short but a strong statement.

I have also the Manhaj in Pictures, but the problem by this picture is, that they donīt say there, where these Ahlu-Bidah say this, therefore without the source, but I need this sources, to make my statement strong. And also I need the sources where the Scholars make the statement, that this People are from Ahlu-Bidah, and why are they warned against.

Insallah I will translate this and spread this to these brothers here in Germany. To keep the Dawah clean.

Please help me in this matter.

The Names that are famous is this regard are: Salam al-Awdah, Safar al-Hawali, Adann Aīroor, Muhammed Suroor, Maghraawi, Abul Hasan al-Misri, Usamah al-Qoosee, Muhammed Musa Nasr, Abdurrahman Abdul Khaliq and so on.

Barakallhu Fiqhum.



ilyas.abu.ameenah
19-02-2003 @ 12:00 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Please can anybody from the Talib ul-Ilm help me in this matter. Because I donīt know who I can ask here in Germany regarding this issue.
I need clarification in this matter, because that some brother donīt go in dalaala.
Iīm calling brothers like Abu Khadeejah, Hassan as-Somali, Abu Talha or somebody like them.
Jazakhallahu khairan






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