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24-04-2005 @ 10:42 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Ash-Shaykh Al-Allaamah Al-Fawzaan Destroys
A Principle Of Faaleh Al-Harbee

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته...

وفقتم وهديتم

أحسن الله إليكم صاحب الفضيلة هذا سائل يقول هناك من يقول أن العالم أو طالب العلم غير ملزم بذكر الدليل إذا
بدع أحد من أهل السنة ويجب على العوام أن يقلدوه فى تبديعه لهذا المبدع فهل هذا القول صحيح ؟

May Allaah be benevolent to you. Your eminence, this questioner

says: There is one who says that the 'Aalim or the student of

knowledge is not bound to make mention of the evidence when he

declares someone from Ahlus-Sunnah to be an innovator. And it is

obligatory upon the general people to make taqleed in his making

tabdee' (i.e. declaration of someone as an innovator) of this

person. Is this statement correct?

أجاب الشيخ الفوزان حفظه الله ورعاه وسدد خطاه

لا يقبل قول أحد إلا بدليل لا يقبل قول أحد إلا بدليل لا سيما فى الأمور الخطيرة وهى تبديع أحد من أهل السنة كيف

يكون من أهل السنة ويكون يبدع لا يكون من أهل السنة إلا أنسان سليم من البدع

ولا يجوز هذا الكلام ابدا هذا كلاما باطل

ومن بدع أحدا فلابد من ذكر الدليل الدال على بدعته حتى يرى هل هو مبتدع واله لا نعم .

أحسن الله إليكم أنتهى يا شيخ

والله تعالى أعلم وصلى الله على نبينا محمد وسلم

The Shaykh Al-Fawzaan, hafidhahullaah, answered: The speech of

anyone is not accepted except with evidence, the speech of anyone

is not accepted except with evidence - especially in the dangerous

affairs and (from) which is making tabdee' of someone from Ahlus

-Sunnah. How can he be from Ahlus-Sunnah when tabdee' has been

made of him. Noone can be from Ahlus-Sunnah except a person who is

safe (i.e. free) from innovations. And this speech is not at all

permissible, this speech is baatil (falsehood). And he who makes

tabdee' of someone then certainly he must make mention of the

evidence which indicates his innovation - so that it can be seen

whether he is an innovator or not.


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"فنحن لا نرضى لأحد أن يمدحنا أو يرفعنا فوق منزلتنا"

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Shaikh Rabee Bin Haadee Al Madkhalee (hafidha-hullaah) also stated:

(Not) everyone who falls into bidah is declared an innovator; because if we
were to adopt this principle, we would make Tabdee of the majority of the
Imaams of Islaam.  Shaikhul Islaam Ibnu Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said:

'Indeed many of the Salaf and the Khalaf fell into innovation without
being aware of (it); either (due to) acting on a weak hadeeth or
understanding the text (in a manner) other than what Allaah and His
Messenger intended, or (due to) Ijtihaad.'

At present we have Imaams of Ijtihaad; and his/their Ijtihaad (can) lead
him/them to mistakes or innovation.  So, if we know (him) to be of a
sound Manhaj and sound intent, being far removed from desires and being
eager for the truth; if we know this about him and he falls into
innovation, he is not declared an innovator.
But if we know him to be upon desires and evil intent, and we know of
affairs about him showing that he desires innovation, he is declared an
innovator.  You find them (Salaf) passing the judgement of Tabdee on many
people due to this.

And many people fell into bidah but were not called innovators; because
they (Salaf) were acquainted with their sound and good intents, their
eagerness for the truth and the soundness of the Manhaj they traversed.

[Quoted by Shaikh Ahmad Baazmool in 'Siyaanatus Salafi Min Waswasati Wa
Talbeesaat Ali Al-Halabi': page: 165]

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