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The Noble and Esteemed Shaykh Faalih Al Harbee was asked: |
Shaykh, what do you say about a famous da?ee (i.e. Abu Usaamah) who lectures the people on paltalk and says to them that the problem with Abul Hasan al Ma?ribee is not clear and I (i.e. Abu Usaamah) do not accept the speech of Shaykh Rabee? because I saw some things in him and I am with the scholars of Al Madinah and their statements that they want for him good, so what do we say to this one; do we refute him?
(Some of these statements were made on paltalk while others were made via email.)
The Shaykh (haafidhahullah) answered:
This one is to be refuted; who is this person !? This person seeks to advise with what is false. Shaykh Rabee? is the most knowledgeable of the people regarding him (i.e. Abul Hasan al Ma?ribee). He was the one who knew of his mistakes and clarified them to him before we knew of his mistakes. Before it was open to us for us to speak about the corruption in his Manhaj and the corruption in his Aqeedah and the corruption in his deductions of the Usool, and the corruption which is in his Walaa and Baraa (love and hatred) and the corruption of that which he?s upon. Shaykh Rabee? was advising him and Shaykh Rabee? was from the most knowledgeable of the people regarding him. He is a scholar from the scholars of the Muslims and from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah, and he is upon knowledge and fiqh of the book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu Alaihi wassallam) and upon the Manhaj of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah. (He has) complete knowledge of that which the people of Bid?ah oppose the Manhaj of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah in! So if there is anyone whose speech is to be taken regarding Abul Hasan, it is Shaykh Rabee? (haafidhahullaah) ?(words unclear) ? because of the knowledge he has regarding him and his knowledge regarding the scales of Haqq (the truth) in Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah. So no one speaks about Shaykh Rabee? or refutes sheikh Rabee? except that he is one who wants falsehood. He is not upon truth because he wants to put doubts in the peoples? minds and trick the people. Shaykh Rabee? wanted to advise Abul Hasan before anyone knew that he had these affairs with him that which Shaykh Rabee? clarified with knowledge, and I spoke about Abul Hasan before Shaykh Rabee?. All of the people of knowledge from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah spoke about this man and it is not just Rabee?, but Shaykh Rabee? is from the most knowledge of the people regarding him and the most knowledge people of the Manhaj and of the Haqq, and he is considered to be from the Imaams of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah in this time. His life is dedicated to helping the Manhaj of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah and in clarifying the deviation of the people Bid?ah and the politics of the al-Ikhawaanul Muslimeen and other than them and also those people who have corrupted Usool with them and this Abul Hasan, he is from them, and from those who establish the Usool upon Hizbiyyah (partisanship), Harakeyeen (groups of different movements) and the people of Bid?ah.
When Shaykh Rabee? exposed him, these people want to aid the people of falsehood! This type of speech is not looked at as being strange from them. Also, they do not put any doubts in the chests of the Mashaykh. The Mashaykh do not have any disagreement with Shaykh Rabee? and they do not disagree with us, and Ahlus Sunnah, they do not differ with each other upon the people of deviation like Abul Hasan al Ma?ribee. As for the Mashaykh, may Allaah reward them with good, they wanted for him good, but he did not accept that and now he is worse than before, because from the shuyookh are those who believed in him. In that which he admitted and signed, that there are mistakes and that he returned from them, and now he is worse than he was before. Also, the door was wide open for him to repent but he did not do it. He spreads speech regarding those that he believes to be upon al-Haddaadiyah and Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah ? (words unclear) ? them, and during the debate he established that ugly Madhhab. What he uses as an example for Ahlus-Sunnah wal Jama?ah the belief of Haddaadiyah, he is like them, he comes with the Daleel upon these lies and oppression. They said either he comes with the Daleel or we are going to refute and expose him and now he is not able to. Firstly, how does he make a foundation without Daleel. How does a person accuse the people and connect them to these grave affairs, in the manner that this man has accused the people of truth and he is the first one with these (descriptions) because he himself is from this Jama?ah of al Haddaadiyah, those people who are from Jama?ah Takfeer wal Hijrah. He stopped in the clarification of Jama?ah Takfeer wal Hijrah and then when the shoyookh threw him out, he said he will come with Daleel, so he came with ?Daleel? and he established it upon an innovated foundation, ?(words unclear)? without proof and without Daleel and without basis. Then he desires to restrict the Shuyookh and tries to put us in error because he is ...(word unclear)? believing that he is going to come with evidence, how is he making these principles in the first place and he doesn?t have any Daleel and now he seeks Daleel!! This is the way of the people of Bida?h. The way of Ahlul Bid?ah is that they make principles firstly, then they look for Daleel but the proofs are not in agreement with them, and verily they are people who are excessive in it and bring doubtful matters to people ?(unclear word)? so they put forth these actions of that which they are upon from falsehood. This man Abul Hasan, also Al-Maghraawee, and other than him, the Shuyookh left the door open for him to repent from his mistakes but he did not do so. Is this a mockery of Abul Hasan or is it a proof for those people. Rather Shaykh Rabee is not defaming him, but he his confirming that indeed these affairs are a reality and true and indeed he himself admits that he fell into this falsehood. How is he (i.e. Da?ee) using as proof that the speech of the Shuyookh (of Madeenah) is taken and the speech of Shaykh Rabee? is not?(unclear)?and they do not understand the proofs and he does not know! Verily he is the one upon falsehood who wants to help the people of falsehood and he goes to this affair. Shaykh Rabee? is an Imaam in disgracing the people of Bid?ah and in the knowledge of the Manhaj of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama?ah and the people of falsehood they say that Shaykh Rabee?s speech regarding Abul Hasan should not be taken as if he is his contemporary. He is like the children of Shaykh Rabee when it comes to his age. In his age he is younger than the children (of Shaykh Rabee); it is possible that from the children of Shaykh Rabee is one who is older than him. Shaykh Muhammad ibn Rabee is older than him. Shaykh Rabee? is older than him in age so how is it said that they are contemporaries. Shaykh Rabee is not to be equaled (to him); not in age firstly, and not in knowledge, and not in virtues, and not in Jihaad in helping the Sunnah and defending it and this Manhaj of the Messenger (sallaallaahu Alaihi Wassallam) and the Sahaabah, and Manhaj regarding the first three noble generations those who the Prophet (sallaallaahu Alaihi Wassallam) regarding them as the best generation as he said ?The best of the people are my generation then those who come after them then those who come after them (the hadeeth) those who are the believers in which Allah says ?And whoever contradicts and opposes the messenger after the right path has beeen shown clearly to him and he follows other than the believers way, We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell what an evil destination. (Suratun- nisa: 115) like this the people of falsehood they always divert the faces of the people away from the people of the truth and they believe in false claims and affairs which are (unclear) which removes from itself that which is beneficial.
And shaykh, we also have this famous Da?ee who says that we blindly follow Shaykh Rabee in his statements and as though the one who doesn?t agree with him, then he is not Salafee.
The Salafis do not blindly follow each other, unless if this following is upon truth, because it is not prevented in totality, for a person who is a scholar, and someone follows him upon his knowledge, and he is responsible for this knowledge, he worships upon that which he knows from the Shar?eeah, it is not permissible for him to hide that and Allaah says: Verily those who conceal the clear proofs, evidences and the guidance, which we have sent down, after we have made clear for the people in the book, they are the ones cursed by Allah and cursed by the cursers. (Suratul-baqarah: 159) and the Messenger speaks about the one who has knowledge but he hides it. So they return to the scholars and they ask them and this is not blind following but it is following (with proofs and evidences] and this is what is mandatory upon them Allaah says: Allaah puts no burden on any person beyond what he has given him (Suratut-talaaq: 7) The one who is not a scholar, he is like a blind man, he is in need of one who guides him, and the scholar is the guide, so if he returns to the scholar, then who says this is Taqleed (blind following) and it is not permissible, because this is following, Allaah ordered with it, of that which is in the book Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger. And the Salafiyoon do not follow someone without Daleel (evidence), except that if he is not a scholar and the other is a scholar. No one says this except the one who is grieved from amongst the people of politics, Hizbiyeen, and Ahlul-Bida?h. As for Ahlus- Sunnah wal Jamaah then this type of speech is imposed. For this from Tashweeh (mutilation), of the actual affair, Talbees (trickery) upon the people the truth.