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03-06-2003 @ 6:08 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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aslaam alaykum brothers,

i need some desperate help, and i was hoping that u could help me
insha-allah, i have recently been talking to a brailwi, who broughtforward
to me a hadith allegedly collected by imam bukhari, in his book al-tarikh
al-kabir, i dont have the hadith wording, but i have the source references
below, this hadtih is used by brailwis to prove the point about seeking
intercession, in their duas through the prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) and saints etc, a
waseelah. could u please verify the authenticity of this hadith for me, or
even explain its true meanings, etc. i would be really grateful. may allah
reward your efforts.


This hadith was recorded was recorded by Bukhari in his "al-Tarikh
al-kabir", Ahmad (4:138 #17246-17247), Tirmidhi (hasan sahih gharib --
Da`awat Ch. 119), Nasa'i (`Amal al-yawm wa al-laylat p. 417-418 #658-660),
al-Hakim (1:313, 1:526), Tabarani in al-Kabir, and rigorously authenticated
as sound (sahih) by nearly fifteen hadith masters including Ibn Hajar,
Dhahabi, Shawkani, and Ibn Taymiyya.] by Ibn Majah in his Sunan (Book of
Iqamat al-salat wa al-sunnat, Ch. on Salat al-hajat #1385), where he said it
was rigorously authenticated (SAHIH), by Nasa'i in "Amal al-yawm wa
al-layla", by Abu Nu'aym in "Ma'rifa al-Sahaba", by Baihaqi in "Dala'il
al-nubuwwa", by Mundhiri in "al-Targhib wa al-tahrib", by Haythami in
"Majma' al zawa'id wa manba' al-fawa'id", by Tabarani in "al-Mu'jam
al-kabir", by Ibn Khuzayma in his "Sahih", and by others. Nearly 15 hadith
masters have conformed that this hadith is Sahih.

07-07-2003 @ 7:40 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Assalaamuaalaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakathuhu!

Jazakallahu khair for your post. I would recommend you a book by Shaikh Nasiruddeen Albanee (rahimahullah) called 'Waseelah' which is translated into English. I advice you to learn aqueedah and all the issues of belief yourself first, practice it and then call people towards it for this is the correct methodology.

Refer to 'The intermediates between Allah and His servants' by Shaikh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah).
'Ziyarath al Quboor Wal Isthinjathu bil Maqboor ' by Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah).
Also refer to Fath-hul-Majeed sharh kitab at Tauheed, Usool us Thalaathah with the explanation of Shaikh Uthaimeen (rahimahullah) and Kitab at Tauheed by Shaikh Saleh al Fauzaan (hafidhahullah).
There is audio of Shaikh Obaid (hafidhahullah) on Usool us Thalaathah made available by

If you are in the United States, contact the brothers at Masjid Rahmah to get 33 tapes on Usool us Thalathah by Abu Uwais.

I seek forgivness of Allah for myself and you and may Allah give us sound creed and ability to practice the deen upon the methodology of Salaf us Saalih. May Allah help us in gathering with the scholars and learning from them as the salaf gathered around the ulemaa.

Wa'assalaamuaalaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakathuhu!

Our da?wah and our ?aqeedah is more beloved to us than our own selves, our wealth and our offspring.  So we are not prepared to part with it for gold, nor silver.  We say this so that no one may have hope in buying out our da?wah, nor should he think that  it is possible for him to purchase it from us for deenaar or dirham. Since the politicians already know this about us, so they have despaired of buying it from us with granted positions or wealth..Shaikh, the Allamah, Muqbil ibn Hadee Al Waa'di'ee (Rahimahullah).

This message was edited by abdul.azeem on 7-7-03 @ 7:54 AM

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