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This is the text of the translation of the statement made by Shaykh Ubayd al-Jaabiree concerning an ijtihaad made by Shaykh Faalih (may Allaah preserve them both). There have been two translations that we have seen by some people and they are not free from mistakes in the translation (such as translating "hattaa as-saaah" as "until the Final Hour", "until the Hour" which is a serious mistake to make, or for example translating "dhimmah" as "acquaintance"), as well as making exaggerations in the choice of words in English that do not correctly convey the import of the Shaykh's speech in certain places, and this is a result of quickly rushing to Hans Wehr to pick out words, without actually comprehending the meaning and concept of what is being said.
Also for the record, having already anticipated the reaction of the Hizbiyyeen to this event, we were actually waiting for them to eagerly translate and spread this statement as well as bring about their shubuhaat, before we posted this statement. The translation was translated a few days ago, and we were just waiting for the Hizbees to spread their shubuhaat, which they have, exactly as expected. Hence, no one was hiding this statement at all, and we call Allaah as a witness to that.
And Alhamdulillaah, this statement of Shaykh Ubayd is just another proof for the correctness of the Salafee manhaj, and every Salafee should rejoice with it, and with what it contains of lessons and benefits and of the fruits of the Salafee manhaj. Here are the words of Shaykh Ubayd. |
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A Testimonial of Truth and an Exoneration from [Any] Liability
All praise is due to Allaah, the Lord of the Worlds, and may Allaah send prayers and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon his family and good and pure companions. To proceed:
It has reached us with a connected authentic chain (of narration) that our brother, Shaykh Faalih, may Allaah pardon us and him, has blamed all of the following with innovation: Shaykh Abdur-Razzaaq bin Abdul-Muhsin al-Abbaad al-Badr, Shaykh Alee bin Ghaazee at-Tuwaijuree, Shaykh Ibraaheem bin Aamir ar-Ruhaylee, Shaykh Sulaymaan bin Saleemullaah ar-Ruhaylee, Shaykh Abdullaah bin Abdur-Raheem bin Husayn al-Bukhaaree. And from what has reached us from him, he previously said concerning Shaykh Tarheeb bin Rabee'aan ad-Dawsaree that he is more astray than his household's donkey. And that was on account of a statement that was spread from Shaykh Tarheeb in some of the newspapers or forums.
And that which I testify to regarding those brothers up until this hour is that they are from Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaaah and their striving in spreading the Sunnah and aiding it is known, [it is] thanked for, and blessed. And what our brother Shaykh Faalih has said about them, that they are Mubtadi'ah, and not from Ahl us-Sunnah, then it is false and rejected upon him. And whoever spread it from him via the Internet is amongst the fattaaneen (fitnah-makers), those who stir in the murkey waters. So it is obligatory that he beware[1].
And I wrote these lines to exonerate [myself] of any liability, and to testify with the truth, so that it may not be said that I remained quite over this in agreement with Shaykh Faalih regarding what he said concerning those noble brothers. And my success is by (none) except Allaah, and may Allaah send prayers and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family and his companions.
Written by Ubayd bin Abdullaah bin Sulaymaan al-Jaabiree on the 21st of Shawwaal 1424H, in al-Madinah an-Nabawiyyah
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[1] This maybe in reference to the person who actually took this speech and spread it, causing fitnah by way of it, as it may have just been said to that person in a private sitting, or to a group of people, and not actually intended for public consumption.
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1. This is an evidence that Ahl us-Sunnah do not show ta'assub to specific scholars, and that they implement the usool of the Salafee manhaj as it relates to treating the ikhtilaafaat and ijtihaadaat of the Ulamaa. For Ahl us-Sunnah did not accept the defence and praise for the Innovator Abul-Hasan al-Ma'ribee by Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin on account of his ijtihaad in the affair, rather they took the truth from where it was found, from those who proclaimed it, and they left what opposed the truth, without showing taassub to those who praised and defended and nor those who refuted and warned, but acknowledging that the truth is with some and not others.
2. The speech of Shaykh Ubayd is also a testimony that our Scholars are indeed upon the haqq, and that the Salafee manhaj they are upon is the truth, for they mutually advise and correct each other. And it is possible for the Scholars of Ahl us-Sunnah to make mistakes, even mistakes in aqeedah, such as the mistake of Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen on the issue of the maiyyah of Allaah, about which he was refuted openly by Shaykh Hamood at-Tuwaijuree (in the book "Ithbaat Uluwwillaah wa Mubaayanatihi li Khalqihee", with an introduction by Shaykh Ibn Baaz), and likewise the erroneous position of Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin regarding Abul-Hasan al-Ikhwaanee that was spoken about by Shaykh Rabee and Shaykh Faalih and Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee and others. And this is how it is with Ahl us-Sunnah, and their mistakes made by ijtihaadaat do not detract from their status.
3. In recent times many factions of the Innovators tried to belittle Shaykh Faalih, from the Qutbiyyah, Surooriyyah, Ma'ribiyyah, Arooriyyah and others, because he exposed and refuted them, but the Scholars defended him and established his position and his aid for the Sunnah.
http://spubs.com/r.cfm?ID=MSC060019
Al-Allaamah Shaykh Ubayd al-Jaabiree said | quote: |
| "And Shaykh Faalih, and all praise is due to Allaah, is thiqah (trustworthy). The Shaykh, Faalih is thiqah, and he knows what he says, and he knows what he writes, and he knows what he spreads. Shaykh Faalih is thiqah with us and all praise is due to Allaah. He is upon the manhaj of the Salaf, and he is not in need that I be asked about him and that I give tazkiyah (commendation) to him. However I was asked so I answered! Shaykh Faalih, and all praise is due to Allaah, is thiqah from the angle of aqeedah, and manhaj, and knowledge, and all praise is due to Allaah." (Cassette on Questions Concerning the Issue of Maghraawee) |
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Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee said, | quote: |
| Shaykh Faalih is amongst the most knowledgeable of people of the Sunan and the Book and amongst the most knowledgeable of people of the Sunnah and the most knowledgeable of people of Ahl ul-Bid'ah in this time - according to what we have known of him, and entered upon him (i.e. to visit him) and sat with him, and been contemporaries with him, and heard from him. And he is amongst the most knowledgeable of people in al-Madinah an-Nabawiyyah, of the ways and paths of innovation, and the contemporary (innovated) methodologies, which oppose what the Salaf of the Ummah were upon, may Allaah the Most High be pleased with them. And anyone who says anything other than this is only one of two men. Either a Jaahil (ignorant) or an envious Kadhhaab (liar). And we seek refuge in Allaah from both of them. And the one who reviles Shaykh Faalih in this matter which he speaks about, and about his Salafiyyah, then in reality he is the one who is reviled in our view". |
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Alongside this, he as a person, just like the rest from people of knowledge, is not infallible and not free from error, even though he was the first to warn from many amongst the hidden Innovators, and even though he was correct about everyone he has spoken about, from those whose affairs have since become clear. And likewise Shaykh Rabee is not infallible, however because of his great patience and expanded heart, and the chances he gives to the mukhaalifeen, and his long patience with them, he has been granted success in being correct in all of those he spoke about and those whom he speaks about, as has been said about him by the likes of Shaykh Muqbil (rahimahullaah), because he only speaks after the avenues have been closed and the person choosing deviation has made clear his path, after being given every available chance over a significant period of time.
So there is nothing in this for Ahl ul-Ahwaa, neither from near nor from far.
4. And as for the shubuhaat that are being spread by the vultures whose only job is to sit and wait until they find something to start causing confusion, then amongst these shubuhaat is that how come the speech of Shaykh Faalih is rejected merely because of the speech of Shaykh Ubayd, whereas Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin's speech was not accepted when he rejected the jarh of Shaykh Rabee upon Abul-Ikhwaan al-Misree. And the answer is firstly, that this is the nature of the hearts that have no attachment or understanding of the Salafee manhaj, and have no desire to implement in their lives, in their positions, in their behaviour, because these hearts are doubtful, confused by their nature, the shubuhaat grow out of them quite easily, and they are blinded in reality. They have not had the success to give importance to what required the giving importance in the mass confusion that clouded Ahl us-Sunnah in the many years gone by. Secondly, there was a jarh mufassar upon Abul-Hasan al-Ikhwaanee with evidence that was as clear as the midday sun, that was established by 30 or so scholars, and which was extremely weighty, overwhelming and which could not possibly be overturned or disputed. Thus, it was not correct to turn to the saying of anyone else, no matter what their status or rank, and for this reason the saying of Shaykh Abdul-Muhsin was not taken, though he is from the greatest of the Scholars of Ahl us-Sunnah, and that was a mistaken ijtihaad. Thirdly, we have not come across any jarh mufassar from Shaykh Faalih, and nor are we aware of any details pertaining to that, such that it can be said, you have rejected the jarh mufassar. However, we continue to adhere to the principle, the jarh mufassar takes precedence over the ta'deel. Fourthly, those being spoken about (those Shaykhs of Madinah) are a world apart from Abul-Hasan al-Ikhwaanee, and if there is established to be something of error, it is an ijtihaad that can be pardoned, and it is not like an actual manhaj that is adhered to, or false usool that are invented and persisted upon, as was the case of Abul-Ikhwaan, and there has been nothing to indicate that this is the case, within the limits of our knowledge or what has reached us.
5. Finally, this is all there is to the matter, its simple and clear. So we advise the Salafees to pay no attention to the hidden hizbees. People like them just sit and wait for opportunities like these, and it is only in situations like this where you see any real zeal or activity on their behalf, because what is always on their mind is "..what can we use against them next...." and "...aah we got them now...".
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And just to think...there are some out there who say we use double standards!
Dawud Adib
وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية :" الراد على أهل البدع مجاهد"
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al-Hamdu-Lillaahi Rabbil-'Aalameen was-Salaatu was-Salaamu 'alaa Ashrafil-Anbiyaa'e wal-Mursaleen, wa ba'd:
Assalam-o-Alayqum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakatahu
May Allaah preserve our Shayookh and correct both our affairs and theirs where (He (subhanahu wa ta'ala deems) necessary. And may Allaah guide the ones who's only intent is to cause fitnah and fasaad amongst the people of Salafeeyah or expose them and break their backs, ameen.
Is in not beautiful that the people, who truly follow the haqq, do not hide the truth or hold back information about a situation unnecessarily until a time when they can make maximum gains from it by splitting the salafees instead of trying to unite them upon the haqq.
May Allaah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) keep the salafees firm and united in the face of any fitnah these miskeen try to spread, ameen.
Subhaanak Allahumma wa bi Hamdika, Ash Shahadu an Laa ilaaha ilaa anta, Astaghfiruka wa atooboo ilayka
Wassalam-o-Alayqum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakatahuh
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Al-Hamdulillahi Ta'Ala wa salatu wa salamu 'ala Rasulullah
Amma Ba'd;
Salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah;
"ONE GROUP FROM MY UMMAH WILL ALWAYS HOLD FAST TO THE TRUTH AND IT WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE ASSISTANCE OF ALLAH {MANSOORAH}. NO ONE WHO DISSOCIATES FROM IT WILL BE ABLE TO DO HARM TO IT UP TO THE DAYS OF JUDGEMENT." {Bukhari}
May Allah Ta'Ala continue to bless this Group and allow us to be amongst those who "hold fast to the Haqq." And not amongst those who sit and wait for error nor of The People of Desire, desiring position and/or recognition. Ameen
Abu Na'imah Shamsuddin
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25 Shawwal 1424
This mistake in translation was noticed and mentioned to Sheikh Obayd al Jaabri today and he said it is not befitting for someone to translate his speech unless they are known for their competence in Arabic and he also said if the kallam of Sheikh Faalih did not reach the people then there is no need to translate it.
It shows that the translator has hastily translated it without considering the affair of maslaha and mafsada.
The hizbiyoon try to argue and say why didn't we accept the kallam of Sheikh AbdulMuhsin hafidhahullaah on Abu Hasan (the fitnah maker) and you have rightly said as is known from the books on Jarh was Ta'daeel such as 'Nukhbat al Fikr' of Ibnu Hajr where there is a section there on the detailed refutation taking precedence over the general ta'deel. This way following the daleel and principles of Ahlu sunnah without belittling our beloved sheikh AbdulMuhsin due to respecting knowledge and its people. On the other hand the rabble rousers show CLEAR BELITTLEMENT of Sheikh Rabee', Sheikh Faalih, Sheikh Ahmed Yahyah Najmi...
To the extent that those in Luton tried to stop a speech by Sheikh Rabee' in Manchester some months back where they caused so much fitnah in the masjid there to stop the speech happening.
Oh one who wishes to head-butt the mountain to destroy it
Have mercy on your head not on the mountain
What will they have to say now that in his latest tapes Abul Hasan the fitnah maker is disgustingly accusing our beloved sheikh Rabee' of Takfeer and saying his methodology is misguided???
Will they still defend this man who has only harmed himself and those with him???@*!!
May Allaah reward you for this clarification.
قال تعالى:{إنا نحن نزلنا الذكر وإنا له لحافظون}
قال الشيخ السعدي - رحمه الله - في تفسيره (3/31): " فلا يحرف محرف معنى من معانيه( القرآن ) إلا وقيض الله له من يبين الحق المبين وهذا من أعظم آيات الله ونعمه على عباده المؤمنين".
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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Look at the wisdom of shaykh 'Ubayd hafidhahullaah,
"if the kallam of Shaikh Faalih did not reach the people then there is no need to translate it."
Why is it then that these brothers who adamantly state that, "we always refer everything back to the 'ulema" - are the very same ones who are rushing to translate and distribute! why didn't they refer back to shaykh 'Ubayd regarding whether they should translate and distribute his kalaam, when they are found to be practically in his backgarden, Madeenah!
May Allaah the most high reward the noble brothers at SPubs for clarifying the truth once again, lillaahil-hamd! and may HE enable them to keep doing so!
aboo 'Ubayd al-Athari as-Salafi
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The kalaam of shaykh Faalih hadn't reached the UK, but shaykh 'Ubayds kalaam was translated and did, placing doubts in the hearts, wAllaahul musta'aan!
aboo 'Ubayd al-Athari as-Salafi
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Assalam u alaikum
we just felt the need to thank our brothers at salafi pubs. who, by the grace of Allah, have given the translation its proper justice. this is said because recently, some who do not have the ability to translate, and do not understand different statements used by the scholars, have placed themselves in a position to translate the statement of shiekh Ubaid and have made horrible mistakes in the translation.
an example of that is sheikh Ubaid's famous statement, until this hour, they translated this statement as, until the day of judgement!!
this was mentioned to the sheikh this past week and he commented stating in short: no one should translate until they have a strong understanding of both languages, they should also be known for their trustworthness and piety. they should be known amngost the people for this and have the firm ability to translate so that the correct meanings are understood...! (this statement was made in the shiekh's house this past thursday after salatul asr)
May Allah preserve the shiekh and the other shuyook of dawatus salafiyah! May Allah also guide those who put themselves in a position that they are not able to treat correctly with justice. verily if one holds correct sence, he would know that the shiekh would not mention a tazkiyah for the above mentioned shuyook that would be held until the day of judgement! it is from the aqeedah of ahlus sunnah wal jamah, that the Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) himself does not know the unseen and that which would take place in the future. if this being the case with the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) then what would be the case with an individual 1400 years after the death of the Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) . those who translated the shiekhs statement incorrectly should fear Allah within themselves. they should take hold of the shiekhs advice to those who translate. they should understand the seriousness of the affair and leave translating to those who have a firm grasp in it, like the brothers at spubs, troid, darul hadeeth (philly) and others.
this was just an advice acting to the statement of the Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) : the religion is pure advice!
Barak Allah u lakum.
assalam u alaikum
abu ismael mustafa george
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wa 'alaykumus-salaamu wa rahmatullaahi
jazaakum Allaahu khayran - mustafaa - na'am since the chain is from the Deen and the translator is in the chain of transmission! But since these irresponsible ones only work anonymously and in a hidden way, and this is their main mode of operation, they just get a different screen name and go on translating/slandering/speaking without knowledge/etc... to them its a great benefit that they get from turning away from the ulamaa's advice about being clear and displaying their real names on their posts, they can just get another screen name every time they put their foot in their mouth!
Have we not learned the seriousness of knowing who we are taking from? Have we remembered the advice of Shaykh 'Ubayd himself who told us that we are to give weight to people's kalaam based on who they are and what level of knowledge they are upon?
Its seems to be an appropriate time for us to revisit the advice of our Shaykh Ubayd once again, and take some more lessons from it with what has transpired recently:
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=1485
Moosaa Richardson
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أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
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What follows is an important clarification by Shaykh 'Ubayd himself:
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.php?threadid=300030
In it he states how the reasons for the fitnah which followed his bayaan are "...blind bigotry towards individuals and ignorance of the principles of jarh and t'adeel." Perhaps one of the brothers can fully translate and post this.
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أبو عبد العزيز المصري
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This statement was made by the Shaykh yesterday after maghrib, and was broadcast on Paltalk.[Note: some parts were not clear from the audio]
A questioner from france asks those who make ta'an upon Shaykh Falih and they depend upon the statement of Shayhk Ubayd, meaning by this the statement (of Shaykh Ubayd) that appeared before a while, and he says that this has caused some fitnah between us in France.
Shaykh Ubayd: If the matter is like you have said... you are the narrator and I do not know you and I do not know your condition ... such that I am able to pass a judgement upon you (as regard what you have narrated), however I say that if the matter is like you have mentioned and it has caused fitnah, then this is from blind ta'assub (partisanship) towards men, which I warn you from, just as Shaykh Faalih has warned you, he warned (you of this) before me, Shaykh Faalih (hafidhahullaah), he warned you from hizbiyyah before myself, he preceded me in this. And you have fleed from hizbiyyah to another hizbiyyah, and this is what has allowed the enemies of the Sunnah to come over you.
The second reason is your ignorance of the rules of al-jarh wat-ta'deel. SoI, when I replied to what Shaykh Faalih (hafidhahullaah) said, when he said about [those that I mentioned] that they are Innovators ...[unclear]... I refuted his statement, but this does not mean that I disparage Shaykh Faalih, and nor do put down his station, rank. Rather, he is still upon what he was upon in our view, in aiding the Sunnah and defending and its people, however he erred and I rebutted him (for that) only. So understand that. Understand that, and acquaint those who are around you and ...[unclear]... from the Muslims.
May Allaah grant all success in what He loves and is pleased with, and may
the prayers and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad, and upon his family and all his companions...
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Assalam u alaikum
to further add to that which shiekh Ubaid mentioned yesturday (before salat al magrib), shiekh Muhammed bin Hadee mentioned the same statement about two weeks ago on a thursday, in the presence of many of the students from the west. from amnogst those students were, abu idress (birmingham), Uwais (London), and others. from that which the shiekh mentioned is that no one should understand through the correction stated about sheikh Faleh that this is speaking ill of him, no, let no one understand this, in fact, he still holds his position with us. there is great difference between refuting and individual and correcting a mistake. let this be understood! (summery of the sheikh's statement).
we just thought to bring to the public this mention of sheikh Muhammed bin Hadee on the issue. we would also like to request from those who incorrectly translated the statement by shiekh Ubaid, for them to correct their translating errors and to also post the above mentioned information given by shiekh Ubaid and shiekh Muhammed bin Hadee. this is a just request in order for the muslim communities to understand the issue correctly and to not be troubled by it. there is also a great advice that can be deducted from the recent statement of sheikh Ubaid al Jabiree, and that is. it is upon the muslims to understand there deen correctly and firmly so that they are not troubled by such an affair. it is also upon them to leave the ways of hizbiyyah and at ta'asab totally and for good. may Allah make us of those who are purified from these two diseases!
barakAllahu feekum
abu ismael mustafa george
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bissmillahi ar rahmaani ar rahim
assalam alaykoum
jazakoum Allahou khairan for this great nasseeha which is extremly naafi'ah.
Beeing from France, it is not suprising to know this caused fitnah amongst the salafi bros, as we always rush to the "hottest news", not referring back to the kibaar 1st, in order to know how to act as srtict followers of the salafi manhaj, wa Allahoul mousta'an.
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such as the mistake of Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen on the issue of the maiyyah of Allaah,
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what is the "MAIYYAH" of Allah?
jazakoum Allahou khairan.
" al haqqou min rabbika" (Ali 'Imran).
Amina Le Joncour al-firanssiyyah as-salafiyyah.
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Ma'iyyah refers to Allaah's being 'with' (ma'a) the creation, as mentioned in the following verse:
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هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى عَلَى الْعَرْشِ يَعْلَمُ مَا يَلِجُ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَمَا يَخْرُجُ مِنْهَا وَمَا يَنزِلُ مِنَ السَّمَاء وَمَا يَعْرُجُ فِيهَا وَهُوَ مَعَكُمْ أَيْنَ مَا كُنتُمْ وَاللَّهُ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ بَصِيرٌ He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then Istawâ (rose over) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be. And Allâh is the All-Seer of what you do. |
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إِنَّ اللّهَ مَعَ الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ وَّالَّذِينَ هُم مُّحْسِنُونَ Truly, Allâh is with those who fear Him (keep their duty unto Him), and those who are Muhsinûn (good-doers, - see the footnote of V.9:120). |
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And there are several other ayaat which indicate the ma'iyyah of Allaah.
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Abu 'Abdil-'Azeez al-Misree
أبو عبد العزيز المصري
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buy EXEMPLARY FOUNDATIONS by Ibn Uthaymeen published by TROID as there is an appendix in it explaining MA'IYYAH and clarifying Ibn 'Uthaymeen's correction of his old statement.
http://www.troid.org/store/books/namesandattributes.htm
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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
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Assalaamu alaykum warahmatullaahi wabarakaatuhu
All Praise is due to Allah. Indeed, the rejoicing of the people of evil suspicion and understanding is always short-lived.
This issue about Sheikh Ubaid's statement is yet another test for the hidden hizbees within the salafis. The evil ones have been waiting for this opportunity to twist and then justify their rejection of Sheikh Faleh.
Here in Manchester (Uk), we know there are some hidden enemies in our masjid who are critical about sheikh faleh, but they do not dare show it openly. We have been eagerly waiting for this clarification of sheikh Ubaid inorder to repel the hidden hizbees from the mimbar. We have some of their statements from amongst themselves which manifests their evil suspicions towards sheikh Faleh.
Walhamdulil-lah, the people of evil suspicion(i.e.those who are always quick to derive the worst of interpretations from the statements of the ulema) have been exposed again.
Therefore, Darul Hadith Mananchester alongside our brothers at SP, Troid, M.Athariyyah, Darul Hadith (Phi) are well aware of the hidden evil plotters who inwardly hide ta'an upon some of our Scholars, and wish that the maraakiz of salafiyyah are brought down along with those same scholars.
So let all the salafis come even closer upon bir and Taqwah. Indeed, this greatly frustrates the people of Tamyi.
Dar ul-Hadith Manchester
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