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Topic: what is the ruling on sitting with ahlul bid'ah to learn Qur'an
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 Umm.Khadeejah
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Umm Muhammed ibn Yassir Maria bint Jose
(New Jersey, USA)
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assalamu alaykum wa rahamtuAllah wa barikatu
Is it allowed for a salafi or salafiyyah to sit amongst a group of people who are ahlul-bid'ah/ahlul-hawaa to memorize the qur'an or tajweed, etc.?
Jazakum Allahu khayrun
Umm Muhammed
This message was edited by Umm.Khadeejah on 3-7-04 @ 6:34 PM
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| ibrahim.bukhari
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Wa Alaikumus Salaam Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh
Insha'Allaah this post will be answered (with proofs and evidences) by someone more knowledgeable than myself.
However, from personal experience I would caution against taking knowledge (especially the words of Allaah) from the people of innovations. Some (not all) of the people of bid'ah are fond of changing the "meaning" of the verses and in some cases, even changing the verse itself. For example, some of them change the following verse to read as if Musa spoke to Allaah only and that Allaah did not speak to Musa:
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Likewise, it is well known that the people of Jamaa'at Tableegh (and other than them) have misinterpreted the Ayah concerning "going out in the Path of Allaah".
At the very least, I would recommend using extreme caution when dealing with the various groups and individuals of innovation, especially when it comes to taking knowledge from them.
And Allaah Knows Best
Aboo Khaleel "Ibraheem" Bukharee Ibn Abdullaah
Michigan - USA
This message was edited by ibrahim.bukhari on 3-8-04 @ 3:12 PM
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