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Hamzah.Mullick
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Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakhatuhu

Akhee with regards to Shaikh Meraj Rabbani then I have personally met him in my house, when I was in Birmingham and can say that he has a very filthy tongue when he gives talks and I asked Shaikh Wassiullah about him and he said that he has been advised on a few occassions. He gives alot of his dawah efforts to refuting the Deobandies and other various deviant Indo/Pak groups and debating with them. He resides here in Saudi Arabia.

About Shaikh Zafar ul-Hassan Madni then I also met him in Sharjah in Jan 2002 and I saw from him that he attacked the salafees. There is a nice post on this forum about him but I am not sure where it is but I will try and locate it for you.

A good place to check would be with Salafi Publications as I am sure they could put you through to someone who could advise you better and in more detail inshAllah.

" This is the knowledge of the Religion, so look from who you take your Religion" the saying of the tabi'ee Muhammed ibn Seereen. Muslim 2/278

" Do not accept hadeeth except from those whose witness you would accept" Reported as Marfoo' hadeeth by ar-Raamaahurmuzee in al-Muhaddithul-Faadil. (pg 411)

Waalaikum As Salam

Abu Dawood Humza

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Akhee Hasan,  I found this post in General Discussion. InshAllah it should clarify things further.JazakhAllahu Khair to Abdul Aziz for this!!


Akhee I found this post in General Discussion.

Assalaamuaalaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakaathuhu!

All praises and thanks be to Allah ](sub'haana hu wa ta'ala) , the Rabb of Aalameen.May peace and blessings of Allah (sub'haana hu wa ta'ala) be upon the noble Messenger Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam ), his family , his companions (ridhwaanullahi alaihim ajmaa'een), and all those who follow him till the Day of Ressurrection.

Jazakallahu Khair for asking about this person ya abaa Bilal.

I wanted to respond earlier but I was waiting to see if anyone else who
knows this man better than me would do. Sub'haan Allah I wanted to mention
few things about this person which is very important not only for those in the UK but aswell as in India.

Meraj Rabbani is one of the most popular speakers of Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind whose effect upon the common masses is very huge especially his speeches against Tableeghees and Barelwees. He is very well known in India as a speaker from Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind.

He is a member of the shura of Dal Ul Iftah wal Irshad here in Bangalore , where fatwas are issued to common people.As he himself states in one of his tape that we have in our possession( Islam and grave worshipping) that he has reverted from Barelwiyyah.We have met him couple of times here in Bangalore when he was present during Ramadhan in 2000.But at that time we were ourselves not aware of the manhaj us salaf.After we understood there hasn't been any contact with Meraj Rabbani.I also know his teacher who visits Bangalore during Ramadhan.

We do not recall a single instance where he has pointed out or even hinted us the issues of manhaj nor has he ever spoken about Dawah Salafiyyah and most importantly I do not know any of his tapes criticizing the hizb Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind and their errors in manhaj.

He never ever introduced us to Dawah Salafiyyah. So we say, we do not know him except to be a speaker of this hizb Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind.

Hence as our brother Abu Mu'awiya mentions in one of his posts, that the salafees are clear wheresoever they are, we say we do not know if he is upon the manhaj and a caller to Dawah Salafiyyah and we only view him to be a speaker for Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind.This is my personal opinion.

He has a bookstore where audios/videos are sold, run by his brother.He was adviced on several occasions not to sell the books of Jamaluddin Zorobozo, Salih Al Munajjid, tapes of Bilal Philips but he has never taken our advice inspite of me showing him the statements of Shaikh Ubayd (hafidhahullah) regarding Bilal Philips. We don't know if Meraj Rabbani is
aware of this.

Meraj Rabbani speaks against deobandees, barelwees and I have also heard
his tapes against Shias and Jamiath Islami but not a single tape on the
issues of manhaj us salaf nor on DawatusSalafiyyah.

If anyone can approach him and speak to him then his present condition will
be known Insha Allah.

Another popular speaker for the hizb Jamiyyath Ahle Hadees Hind, is Zafar Ul Hasan Madani who was here in December. His speech was exclusively  against the salafees(those who have turned to the way of the salaf) in Bangalore and this person visits India from U.A.E. I have translated his speech which was in Urdu which will be posted soon Insha Allah.

Anything good is from Allah and all mistakes are most assuredly mine,
its a praisworthy quality to remind your brother of his mistakes for
verily, reminder profits the believers and Insha Allah I will be open
to correct myself.

Jazakallahu Khair.


Wa'assalaamuaalaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakaathuhu!



Our da?wah and our ?aqeedah is more beloved to us than our own selves, our wealth and our offspring.  So we are not prepared to part with it for gold, nor silver.  We say this so that no one may have hope in buying out our da?wah, nor should he think that  it is possible for him to purchase it from us for deenaar or dirham. Since the politicians already know this about us, so they have despaired of buying it from us with granted positions or wealth..Shaikh, the Allamah, Muqbil ibn Hadee Al Waa'di'ee (Rahimahullah).

This message was edited by abdul.azeem on 1-6-03 @ 1:03 PM




Our da?wah and our ?aqeedah is more beloved to us than our own selves, our wealth and our offspring.  So we are not prepared to part with it for gold, nor silver.  We say this so that no one may have hope in buying out our da?wah, nor should he think that  it is possible for him to purchase it from us for deenaar or dirham. Since the politicians already know this about us, so they have despaired of buying it from us with granted positions or wealth..Shaikh, the Allamah, Muqbil ibn Hadee Al Waa'di'ee (Rahimahullah).

This message was edited by abdul.azeem on 1-6-03 @ 1:03 PM

This message was edited by Hamzah.Mullick on 9-15-03 @ 3:09 PM

aboo.bilal
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al-Hamdu-Lillaahi Rabbil-'Aalameen was-Salaatu was-Salaamu 'alaa Ashrafil-Anbiyaa'e wal-Mursaleen, wa ba'd:

It is worth checking out how many of these people are linked to Markazi Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadees and go to the following link to find out what has been posted about them and their dawah especially in the UK.

Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadees

Another good place to start is at the tapes of Shaykh Badee Uddin Shah (rahimahullaah) and see who the Shaykh mentions most of them may have passed away by now (Allaahu Aalim) but atleast you maybe able to find out some names so that may have a list of names to look out for when buying books or a "rare" tape

Speak to Shaykh Rabee' al-Madkhalee and ask him if he recommends any one to take from in Pakistan (I believe that he has mentioned some names in the past) check to make sure.  And also Shaykh Wasee Ullaah Abbaas who is familiar with many of the people from Pakistan and India.

I believe that these sources of reference would be a good start in your search to find the people of knowledge in Pakistan, and remember Just because the label on the bottle says one thing it does not mean that the content is what is claimed.  Just because they claim to be ahl-e-hadeeth does not mean that they are anything like the known Ulema of Pakistan such as Shaykh Badee Uddin Shah (rahimahullaah).

Aboo Bilal Nahim

Hasan.Salafee
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Assalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmathullaahi wa Barakathuhu


Iam aware that Dr Zakir Naik is a well known Hizbee through his assocation with well known hizbee organisations, who mainly delivers lectures on comparative religion (very much like Ahmed Deedat) at any Ikwaanee/Qutubi/Suroori Masjid that invites him. He is also President of the Islamic Research Foundation in Mumbai.

The website of the Islamic Research Foundation is not even remotly close the the way of Ahlul-Hadeeth/Salafiyyah!

On a link entitled "International Orators," It has pictures of many of the speakers (like something out of one of those High school year books!), the man himself, Ahmed Deedat, Israr Ahmed, Bilal Philips, Siraj Wahaj, Jamal Badawi, Yusuf Islam, M. Maghraoui, Shabbir Ali, Yusuf Estes, A. Rahim Green, Abdul Hakim Quick,

Under the link "Other International Orators," Ahmed Sakar, Abdul Karim Parekh, Ghulam Malik Murtaza, Gary Miller, Jeffery Lang, Ahmed Von Denffer, Jafar Sheikh Idris, Abdallah Idris Ali, Ali Tamimi, Tareq Al Suwaidan, Hamza Abdul Malik, Muhammed Adly, Muneer El Kassem, Ahsan Zafrullah Abdus Samie,  Aminah Assilmi, S. M. Darsh, Farhat Ali Barni, Ayesha Lemu, H. Morsi, Hasnuddin Ahmed, Murad Hoffmann, Fathi Osman, Hassan Hathout, Khurram Murad, Maher Hathout, Kurshid Ahmed,
Mekaeel Maknoon, Mohammed Makki, Muhammed Hanini, Muhammed Saiffie,
Usman Matata, Yusuf Buckus, Farhat Hashmi.

Moving on Swiftly from one Happy family to another!

This is a list of his "I.R.F Orators," Dr. Shuaib Sayyad, Ashraf Mohammedi, Nisar Nadiadwala, Suhail Bagdadi, Ather Mohammad, Manzoor Shaikh, Dr. R. K. Noor, Rafique Madni, Faizur Rehman Nadvi, Shamim Ahmed Alfauzi, Sanaullah Shabbir, Aslam Ansari, Imtiaz Ahmed, Farhat Naik, Naila Noorani, Nikhat Shaikh, Qudsiya Rizwani, Shaheen Parkar, Naseem Momin, Muzna Kapdi, and on and on..........

"I wonder if thay are all upon Salafiyyah?" (NOTE: Danger! Danger! Sarcasm at 100% and Rising!)

Now we all know that He and His organisation cannot possibly be upon the way of Ahlul Hadeeth!

Rather it looks clear to a common Salafi like me that He and His organisation (Islamic Research Foundation ) is a interesting looking "Gaspacho Soup" of Qutubi,Suroori,Sufi,Ikhwaani and any other form of Hizbiyyah!

It seems to me that any well known speaker who can speak Urdu and is of Indo/Pakistani ethinicity automatically becomes a "Ahlee Hadeesee?!" SubhanAllah!

Please read the following Article:

Judging A Claimant to Salafiyyah By His Companionship
One of important principles that adds to the clarity and distinction of the da'wah of Ahl us-Sunnah from the da'wahs of the straying Innovators, their friends, allies and those deluded by them.
http://www.spubs.com/sps/sp.cfm?subsecID=SLF02&articleID=SLF020005&articlePages=1


Posted By Hasan as-Salafee


Imaam al-Awzaa'ee said, "Patiently restrict yourselves to the sunnah, stop where the people stopped, say what they said, avoid what they avoided. Take to the path of the salaf, for indeed what was sufficient for them was sufficient for you."

This message was edited by Hasan.Salafee on 9-22-03 @ 12:41 AM

Hasan.Salafee
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Assalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmathullaahi wa Barakathuhu


Jazakallah Khair to all the Brothers posts. But so far from all the names listed above (from the original post) i have gathered that the true well known Urdu Scholars are al-Allaamah Badeeuddin Shah as-Sindee Rahimahullah and Shaykh Waseeullah Abbaas Hafithahullah.

Our Brother Moosa Richardson has posted some background information on Shaykh Waseeullah Abbaas, which you can find on the following link;
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=2491

I was wondering if it would be possible for any of the brothers who are in contact with the either Shaykh Rabee' Ibn Haadee and/or Shaykh Waseeullah that if they could present this list to either of them and get it broken down for us, Insha'Allah.

Posted By Hasan as-Salafee

Imaam al-Awzaa'ee said, "Patiently restrict yourselves to the sunnah, stop where the people stopped, say what they said, avoid what they avoided. Take to the path of the salaf, for indeed what was sufficient for them was sufficient for you."

This message was edited by Hasan.Salafee on 1-2-04 @ 6:49 PM

Hasan.Salafee
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Assalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Alhamdullillah, there are some eye raising expositions on these decievers of the
Da'wah of Salafiyyah and Ahlul-Hadeeth, all here on SalafiTalk!


Markaj Jamiyyat Ahle Hadees Hind
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=712


Makthaba Darussalafiah Mumbai Exposes its Manhaj
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=2641


Zafar Ul Hasan Exposes his Manhaj - Part 1.
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=1208


Zakir Naik Exposes His Manhaj - Part 1
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=2538


The Response of Shaikh Faalih to the Juhhaal of India.
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=1769


Shaykh Faalih al-Harbee on the Baatil Oath of the
Jam?iyyah Ahl ul-Hadeeth, Hind

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=3391


A Clarification Of The Truth Concerning The Deception Of
?Markaz Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadees UK? ? Their Speakers and Khateebs

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=14&Topic=553


Shaikh Faalih Al Harbee exposes the deviation of
Jami'at Ahl ul Hadeeth, (India-Pakistan-Bangladesh )

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?forum=9&topic=3039


Sh. Khaalid Ar-Raddaadee Refutes "Jam'iyyah Ahlul-Hadeeth
Birmingham" & Orders Unity With The Salafis In Their Masjid!

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?forum=9&topic=3384


Posted by Hasan as-Salafee

Imaam al-Awzaa'ee said, "Patiently restrict yourselves to the sunnah, stop where the people stopped, say what they said, avoid what they avoided. Take to the path of the salaf, for indeed what was sufficient for them was sufficient for you."

This message was edited by Hasan.Salafee on 7-20-04 @ 3:38 PM






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