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AbuShu'aybSomali
10-25-2009 @ 5:21 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Bismilaahi Rahmaani Raheem

Our Noble Sheikh Saalih AlFawzaan-hafidhahulaah- was asked:

Question Number 448: What is the ruling of young men speaking to young women by way of telephone during fasting? and how about if their ones in the process of marriage?

Answer: Conversating between young men and women by way of telephone is not permissible , due to that which is in it from trial, except if the young women is one that is in the marriage proccess with the one who is speaking to her, and the conversation is for the general benefit of the proposal, but its more appropiate for him to speak to her guardian, as for conversations between youth in other than circumstances of marriage, then this is impermissible due to that which is in it from extreme fitnah and the fear of falling into to that which is impermissible, and if this is in the time in which one is fasting then this will affect the siyaam by decreasement, for that which is requested is preserving and protecting ones siyaam from those things that can bring decreasement to it. And how many times has these telephone conversations ended in immoral disasters and social crime, that which is incumbent upon the guardians of young women is preventing and monitoring them from this danger.

AlMuntaqaa Min Fataawaa page 365



ummmusa88
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PS - I found the same fatwa with different wording:

Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan said, in his answer on the ruling about young men speaking to young women on the telephone: ıIt is not permissible for young men to speak to young women because of the fitnah involved, unless the girl is engaged to the man who is talking to her, and they talk only about matters pertaining to their engagement; but it is preferable and safer for him to speak to her guardian about that.ı (al-Muntaqa min Fataawa al-Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, 3/163, 164).

there is a big difference between saying two people are engaged vs two people "in the marriage process", as it could imply different stages. please make sure the translations are in cue with the arabic, how many times have erroneous mistranslations led people astray...

barakAllahu feekum,

also, with regards to speaking on the phone with ones fiance, please refer to this fatwa:

quote:

Questioner: Assalamu alaykum

Shaykh Muhammad Naasir ad-Deen Al-Albaanee: Wa Alaykum Assalamu wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakaatuhu

Questioner: If you don't mind is the noble Shaykh al-Albaani there?

Shaykh: He's with you.

Questioner: Good, if you would allow me, O Shaykh, I have some questions to ask.

Shaykh: Go ahead.

Questioner: Is it permissible to talk to my fiancee over the phone?

Shaykh: Have you contracted the marriage yet or not?

Questioner: Not yet.

Shaykh: It's not permissible.

Questioner: Not permissible?

Shaykh: Not allowed.

Questioner: Even if it's for advice?

Shaykh: It's not permissible.

Questioner: Okay. Is it permissible for me to visit her and sit with her if the Mahram is present?

Shaykh: With a Mahram being present and she comes in front of you wearing a jilbaab in hijab, like when she goes out, then it's allowed, otherwise no.

Questioner: Is it possible for her to uncover her face?

Shaykh: It's possible, if it's only the face.[1]

Questioner: Only the face?

Shaykh: She shouldn't wear a beautified dress and a short dress, etc.

Questioner: Okay. Regarding sitting with her, what is permissible for me to talk to her about?

Shaykh: Do not talk to her except about that which you would talk with other than her.

Questioner: Okay. If she asks me for my picture, is it okay to give it to her or not?

Shaykh: Just like if you asked her for her picture.

Questioner: Yes?

Shaykh: I said just like if you asked her for her picture.

Questioner: Yes.

Shaykh: Is it permissible?

Questioner: No.

Shaykh: And my answer is also no.

Questioner: Your answer is no?

Shaykh: No, definitely no.

Questioner: About what?

Shaykh: About what? For the same thing that you said, that you cannot ask her for her picture.[2]

Questioner: Yes.

Shaykh: Understand?

Questioner: Yes, yes.

Shaykh: If you understand then stick to it.

Questioner: But, O Shaykh, sometimes a person is forced to phone her, is this permissible?

Shaykh: I don't think there is a need, you want to marry her don't you?

Questioner: For example, is it permissible to phone her for the possibility that I can visit her, at such and such time?

Shaykh: Why do you want to visit her?! What's the difference between her and any other woman?

Questioner: Do you mean it's not allowed to visit her?

Shaykh: O my brother, I say to you what's the difference between her and any other woman? Why do you want to visit her? You want to marry her; you marry her by requesting it from her guardian.

Questioner: If her guardian is present?

Shaykh: You want to marry her, you marry her by requesting her guardian, if there is an original agreement then you can visit her if the guardian is present, to see her and she sees you, as for visiting her then no!

Questioner: It's still not allowed to visit even after the engagement?

Shaykh: After the engagement?

Questioner: Yeah.

Shaykh: She remains to be a stranger to you, O brother, until you perform the marriage contract.

Questioner: Thank you, may Allaah reward you O Shaykh.

Shaykh: And you.

Questioner: May Allaah be generous to you.

Shaykh: May Allaah protect you. Sallamu alayk.

Questioner: Assalamu alaykum

Shaykh: Wa Alaykum Assalamu wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakaatuhu


Taken from: Silsilah Al-Huda wa An-Noor, #269 at 10:03

[1] The Shaykh didn't consider the face to be awrah.
[2] The Shaykh didn't consider photography to be permissible at all.




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