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12-02-2009 @ 11:37 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Hanaa' Mohsin ibn Babar Ali (Bradford, UK)
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Assalaamu Alaikum

Pardon my ignorance but i am a little confused with the post. It would be much appreciated if you can clariy the following.

When you have refered to saying 'Ya Allah' as a bidah, is this in respect to saying in a continuous manner - for example in the same manner as you would make dhikr of Allah by saying SubhanAllah on a continous basis of do you mean that when one is supplicating to Allah - for example saying, 'Ya Allah grant me success...' that is a bidah and instead one should say,'Allahuma grant me success...'

Please clarify

JazakAllah Khair
Wasalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah

Abu Hanaa'

19-02-2009 @ 2:36 PM    Notify Admin about this post
unspecified ساجد (Mumbai (India))
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We do use the supplication "Yaa Hayyu yaa Qayyum bi rahmatika astageeth". To the best of my knowledge this is an authentic supplication in which we are using Allaah's names of Al Hayy and Al Qayyum and also using "Yaa".

20-02-2009 @ 8:06 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Abul-'Abbaas Moosaa ibn John Richardson (Jeddah, Saudi Arabia)
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But as for the statement "Ya Allaah", then what is the meaning of it? There's no meaning to it unless you add [a need] to it, like "Oh Allaah forgive me." [Or] "Oh Allaah, have mercy upon me." And like I say [right now], "Oh Allaah, let the questions come to an end."

He said here that saying "Ya Allaah" is OK when you use with a supplication.

As a note for proper pronunciation: Yaa Allaah would be pronounced together as: Yallaah (saying the yaa' and going right to the laam), since the hamza in Allaah's name is hamzat al-wasl, however saying "Allaahumma" instead is the usage found in the Qur'aan and the Sunnah.  And Allaah knows best.

Moosaa ibn John Richardson

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