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Tanweer
10-05-2009 @ 9:43 AM    Notify Admin about this post
Umm Laina unspecified (Canada)
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Assalaamu Alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,


For the women, do they have to replace the fasts that they have missed during the month of Ramadan before they fast the 6 sunnah in the month of Shawwal or can they fast their 6 sunnah and replace the missing fard ones before the next Ramadan starts?
Jazzakum Allahu Khairan

Jazaak Allah Khayr
Umm Laina

Moosaa
10-08-2009 @ 10:38 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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wa 'alaykumus-salaamu wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.  

The hadeeth that encourages us to fast six days in Shawwaal mentions specifically fasting the month of Ramadhaan and then following that with six days in Shawwaal.  Our scholars point out that this is only accomplished by completing the missed days of Ramadhaan and then fasting 6 optionally in Shawwaal, otherwise the person would not be "following" the fast of Ramadhaan with 6 days of Shawwaal, since the fast of Ramadhaan has not yet been completed.

Also, the general principle is to give priority to obligations over recommended deeds.  This supports what is above even further.  Aboo Bakr as-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him) said, "Verily Allaah does not accept an optional deed until the obligatory one is offered."

Shaykh al-Albaanee mentioned that the one who dies while fasting an optional fast, and he had obligatory fasts to make up but he delayed them, dies in a state of disobedience!

And there is no distinction between men and women in this case.  And Allaah knows best.

Here is a nice resource in Arabic quoting a number of fatwaas of the scholars, all in agreement with the above:
http://www.sahab.net/forums/showthread.php?t=371830

Moosaa ibn John Richardson

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farhan90
10-08-2009 @ 1:49 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Umar Farhan bin Hasmady (doha, qatar)
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assalamualaykum brother moosaa,

regarding fasting the 6 days of syawwaal, is there a ijmaa' among the ulamaa that one must fast the missed days of ramadhan n then only he can start with the 6 of syawwal, or is there another opinion? bcoz i know somebody who has finish the 6 days of syawaal n she is now fasting the days that she missed in ramadhan.

jazakallahu khair

::FaRhaN ibN HaSMaDy::

Abu.Lubaynah
10-08-2009 @ 5:16 PM    Notify Admin about this post
Abu Lubaynah Abdul Ghanee ibn Michael Goodchild Al-Guyaanee (Birmingham, UK)
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Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh


Making up for missed Days comes first


Whoever has to make up for days of fasting from Ramadhan, and he desires to fast the six days from Shawwal, and he wants to fast them before making up from what is due on him.  He wants to do this due to the consideration that the days of Ramadhan can be made up for at any time, but the six days of Shawwal are only in the month of Shawwal.  I hope from some benefit from you, and may Allah reward you.

What is is legislated is that a person begins with making up for the fast before fasting the six days.  This is because the Messenger (sallalahu alayhi wa salem) said, "Whoever fasts Ramadhan, and then follows it up with six (days of fasting) from Shawwalı." 1.

If he fasts it before making up for the fasts, he has not achieved following up Ramadhan with it.  Rather, he has fasted he has fasted it before the other part of it (i.e. completing Ramadhan). This is also because the obligation is more important and it has more tight to be given precedence.

Ash-Shaykh ibn 'Uthaimin



First fast whatever Fasting that you have to make up for



Is it permissible to fast six days of Shawwal before fasting to make for missed days of Ramadhan?  Is it permissible to fast Monday during the month of Shawwal with the intention of making up for the fast of Ramadhan and with the intent of gaining the reward of fasting on Monday?

The reward of fasting six days during the month of Shawwal cannot be achieved unless the person completed the fasting on the month of Ramadhan.  Therefore, whoever has fasting to make up for from Ramadhan, he does not fast six days of Shawwal until after he makes up for the fasting Ramadhan.  This is because the Prophet (sallalahu alayhi wa salem) said, "Whoever fasts Ramadhan, and then follows it up with six (days of fasting) from Shawwalı." 1.

Based upon this we say to whoever has to make up for fasting: "First fast what you have to make up for, then fast the six days of Shawwal." If it happens that fasting these six days coincides with Monday and Thursday, then the person gets the reward of both if he has the intention for getting the reward of the six daysand the intention for reward of Monday or Thursday.  This is due to the Prophet's (sallalahu alayhi wa salem) statement, "Actions are only with intentions, and every person will only get what he intend." 2.

Ash-Shaykh ibn Uthaiman




References
Fataawa Islamiyyah Islamic Verdicts

1.     Muslim 1164
2.     Al-Bukhari 1   Muslim 1907


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