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abdul.basir
16-02-2009 @ 9:02 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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As Salaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullaah,
What is the ruling on entering the saff while in Ruku.  Meaning, the Imaam is in ruku and you make takbir ul haraam, go to ruku and walk in that manner until you join the saff. Is this from the sunnah or not?  I really hope that I can get some answers because it is very disappointing not to have a response to an inquiry, especially pertaining to ibaadah.  So lets see if some of the Tulaab can help us out on this one.
As Salaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullaah
Abu Mujaahid Abdul Basir

sajid_chauhan_81
17-02-2009 @ 7:34 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Hadeeth No. 751 - Narrated Abu Bakra:

I reached the Prophet in the mosque while he was bowing in prayer and I too bowed before joining the row. mentioned it to the Prophet and he said to me, "May Allah increase your love for the good. But do not repeat it again (i.e. bowing in that way)."

http://sahihalbukhari.com/sps/sbk/sahihalbukhari.cfm?scn=dspbookfull&BookID=12





AbuAbdir-Razzaq
19-02-2009 @ 6:28 AM    Notify Admin about this post
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Bismillah wal Hamdulillaah was Salaatu was Salaam ala nabiyinna Muhammad [sallAllahu alaihi was Sallam] wa la aalihi was sahbihi wa man wala

amma ba'd

AsSalaamu alaikam wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu
  

BarakAllahu Feekum for the naseehah
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Abu Abdir Razzaq Amjad ibn Ayub







Abdullah b.Umar May Allah be pleased with them both said:
'Every bidah(religious innovation) is misguidance, even if people think it is good.'
Al-Lalikaii in Sharh Usıl Iıtiqıd Ahl Al-Sunnah wa Al-Jama'ah Vol 1. P134, no.111

abdul.basir
21-02-2009 @ 12:18 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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As Salaamu alaikum,
I had reposted that I found the information that it is from the sunnah but for some reason the post didn't show.  The proof can be found on this site in a post from 2003. It is taken from GEMS FROM THE SILSILAH.  Then upon further research, if you want to call it that, I found out that there are many different hadeeth on this issue.  One of the problems is the translation from Arabic to English.  It seems that the prohibition is on hasting to the salah not the act of making ruku prior to joining the saff.  Please check it out and reply.
Jazaakumullaahu khairan
As Salaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullaah
Abdul Basir

abu.naasir
22-02-2009 @ 7:13 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Please refer to the following link for a detailed discussion of this topic:


http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=2161

These are issues related to the deen and worship, and we must all be very careful about making rulings based on the apparent wordings of ahadeeth.

Ahadeeth cannot always be taken in isolation especially when other ahadeeth (or the actions of the Salaf)
clarify their meanings.


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Abul-Irbaad
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sajid_chauhan_81
22-02-2009 @ 10:43 PM    Notify Admin about this post
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Jazaakumullaahu khayra akhee Abaa Irbaad for the link and the naseeha.






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