Topic: new book adnaan aroer

dadelboom    -- 27-06-2009 @ 9:17 PM
  salamu alaikum


abuhudhayfa.ger    -- 27-06-2009 @ 10:18 PM
  salam alykom wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh,

it is known to the salafis that sayyid qutb is on a way astray. and the scholars have refuted him. there are several articles about sayyid.

please check this link:

here in germany, the same arguments about adnan arur are very wide spread, since many years, and they are nothing but lies. his supporters here even claim, "adnan is good because he has not done what _people_ said about him". and this shows their disrespect towards the scholars, because his means, they say the scholars tell lies about him. and they confimed this, by saying "not the scholars lied but their students lied about adnan". he is also refuted by, shaykh al-fawzan, shaykh ubayd al jabiree, and many others.

there has been equal claims about a tauba by his supporters in the year 2000, when adnan went to toronto. the brothers called shaykh rabee and asked him for advice and this was his answer:


Abu Hudhayfa

UmarTheFloridian    -- 28-06-2009 @ 2:19 PM
  Walaykumus salaam,

Do not be confused, akhee.  Shaykh Rabee' has never praised Sayyid Qutb nor has he softened his stance on him.  This is something that is known here; were your brother-in-law to bring this to Sayyid Qutb's followers and supporters, then even they would find this statement confusing.  Shaykh Rabee's stance on this is well known.

Now, as for your brother-in-law.  He has one of two conditions:

1. He knows that Shaykh Rabee' refutes Sayyid Qutb for his gross deviance but he knowingly claims otherwise; or
2. He does not actually know the truth about the stance of Shaykhunaa and the rest of the 'ulamaa on this deviant man.

Either case does not look very good, however if he has the second condition then da'wah to him may be easier in sha Allaah.  He will likely not take from you alone, as you are a laymen like him and like me and like the rest of us; finding an imaam at one of the masaajid of Ahlus Sunnah in Holland may help as people are more likely to listen to authority figures.

Please keep us updated on da'wah to him and your family's situation.  May Allaahu ta'aala protect and preserve you and your family upon the Sunnah.

abdul.azeem    -- 28-06-2009 @ 4:01 PM
Radd Of Shaykh Abdul Muhsin On Adnaan Aroor

>> Click Here To Listen Shaykhs Kalaam <<

This tape also highlights the great level of Shaykh Saleh al-Fawzaan hafidhahullah whom Shaykh Abdul Muhsin regards from the Ulamaa al-Muhaqqiqeen besides mentioning Shaykh Bin Baaz & Ibn Uthaymeen rahimahumaa Allah.

dadelboom    -- 28-06-2009 @ 4:45 PM
  barakallahufeek this is what i needed

dadelboom    -- 28-06-2009 @ 4:52 PM
  he knows adnaar aroor was refuted by the ulama but he believed this deviant website who claims he is on the manhaj becuz he did tawba.

i can not bring him to a imaam here becuz the only imaam here who is known as a salafi is hated by most dutch muslim brothers and sisters. his name is boushta.

many made fals claims about him and now its hard to give proofs from boushta to my brother in law. i already sended that tape to him by rabee madkhaly i hope he listen inshallah

may allah guide him and us ameen

sajid_chauhan_81    -- 29-06-2009 @ 12:26 AM
  As salaamu 'alaykum warahmatullah,

Sister "dadelboom", we pray to Allah that your brother-in-law is guided to the correct manhaj and leaves that of Adnaan Aroor. This Adnaan Aroor has been refuted by various Mashaykh like Ibn Uthaymeen, Fawzaan, al-Abbaad, al-Madkhalee and others.

JameelFinch    -- 01-07-2009 @ 12:43 AM


If it is the first case, then Allaahu a'lam but it looks like your sister has married a Qutubiyy.  

Firstly, I'm reminding myself firstly and my brothers and sisters secondly that we should be extremely careful about commenting on a person's' marriage specifically. There is a difference between warning from mistakes and commenting on a marriage.

Secondly, every summer in Taif, even though a significant number of The Committee of Major Scholars (The Mufti, Salih al-Fawzaan, Abdullah Ghudayaan, and more) have offices set up there, someone has still seen it fit to provide an office especially for marital affairs.

Also, those who have been blessed to visit The Haram in Makkah during the summer know that there is a class by one of the Major Scholars almost every evening after Maghrib. Thereafter, there is always a questions and answers session. Although sometimes marital questions are answered, often these questions are referred to Ta'if so that all details can be discussed by both parties involved.

I only mentioned these things to show the caution that is taken by our scholars with regards to marital affairs.

Finally, two hadeeth to ponder on before we speak or type, inshaa Allah:

[1] - The Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, "Hastiness is from the Shaytaan"
"Ibn Hajr mentioned that, "At-Tirmithee said,' This hadeeth is hasan'." [Buloogh al-Maraam #1043]

[2] - When asked about will people be punished for what comes out of their mouths, The Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, " Are not people drug into the hellfire on their faces, or their nostrils, because of what comes out of their mouths?"

[Authenticated by al-Albaanee / Sunan at-Tirmithee #2616]

And Allah knows best.

Jameel Finch

UmarTheFloridian    -- 01-07-2009 @ 8:24 PM
  Brother Jameel, there is nothing within your post I can find to disagree with.  It would be correct for me to state that the forwardness I displayed in my above post is not a mannerism I have witnessed or taken from any of the scholars.

With that being said, I must retract from a number of the statements I made in the above post which upon revision appear to be tabdee'.  There were other remarks as well that I made without knowing the individual in question and without being properly grounded to be so forward.

It is my intention now to edit my old post and remove that which I should not have said, both because it is unjust to the person in question and because it may have a negative effect on others reading.  Hasty speech should not be left in the open where it can spread to others.

I would request that this post of mine is left, however, to note an open tawbah from some of my earlier remarks.  My editing is not to hide what I did but just to remove any potential fitnah from the path of others.

I thank Allaah for making advice available through good brothers.  In sha Allaah I will be more cautious with such matters in the future.

SunnahPublishing.Net    -- 12-07-2009 @ 3:54 AM

The book in question, in the original post, is Manhajul-I'tidaal fee Qadaayal-Eemaan wa-Tabdee' wat-Takfeer wa Naqdil-Jamaa'aat war-Rijaal wa Turuqit-Taghyeer, of 'Adnaan 'Ar'oor. It is not a book of tawbah.  Rather, it is a book in which he defends the issues for which he was criticized by the Scholars and goes onto claim that he has been oppressed and that those who have criticized him are guilty of attributing to him that of which he is innocent.

Additionally, this book has been taken as an evidence in favour of 'Adnaan by the followers of 'Alee al-Halabee - and this begs the question: If you - O followers of Halabee, Ma`ribee, Maghraawee, Huwaynee and Hassaan - claim that this book proclaims the tawbah (repentance) of 'Ar'oor from the issues for which he was criticized, then you have admitted that it was upon 'Adnaan to make tawbah, then why was your Shaykh 'Alee al-Halabee praising him and proclaiming his Salafiyyah all along?!  Even though 'Adnaan had with him innovations for which he needed to repent!

Refer necessarily - O Salafees - to the refutations against 'Ar'oor by the likes of Shaykhs: Muhammad Ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen (d.1421H), Saalih Ibn Fawzaan al-Fawzaan, Ahmad Ibn Yahyaa an-Najmee (d.1429H), Rabee' Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee, 'Abdullaah Ibn Saalih al-Ghudayyaan, 'Ubayd Ibn 'Abdullaah al-Jaabiree, Zayd Ibn Muhammad al-Mdkhalee and others.

zejd.peqin    -- 29-01-2010 @ 3:25 PM

How does a person who falls into innovation or hizbiyyah (partisanship) make repentance?

ANSWER by Shaykh Rabee' ibn Haadee Al-Madkhalee, well-known scholar and retired professor from the Islaamic University of Al-Madeenah

He admits to the deed(s) that he fell into, or the innovation(s) that he fell into. He must also clarify the falsity of his action, as Allaah, the Blessed and Exalted has said [1]:

( Except for those who repent, make amends, and clarify (their affair) )

So he must mention the innovation that he fell into, clarify its falsity, proclaim his regret for falling into it, announce his abandonment of that action along with his firm intention to never return to it.

These are the conditions of (his) repentance: a true feeling of remorse, abandoning (the innovation), and a firm resolution to never return to his innovation.

And if he had harmed the people, may Allaah bless you, and his innovation had spread amongst them, then he must openly clarify its falsity and spread the evidences that prove the futility of that thing.

There are people who say that they have repented, then it becomes apparent from their actions and positions that they were not really truthful in that. There is no sign of remorse or shame.

I have seen some people saying, "I have repented," and then they continue on in the very thing that they claim to have repented from! This is like the case of the disbeliever who accepts Islaam, but then continues to wield his sword against the Muslims. He says, "I have repented (from disbelief), but my sword is still unsheathed today..." This is obviously a proof that he has not been truthful, and that he has not really repented.


[1] the meaning of Soorah Al-Baqarah (2):160


This was translated exclusively for from a cassette recording with the knowledge and permission of the shaykh, file no. AARM010, dated 1423/9/3.

zejd.peqin    -- 29-01-2010 @ 3:41 PM
  Shaykh Zayd al-madkhalee was recently asked:

Ya shaykh how do we deal with those who left Hizbiyyah recently, and currently attach themselves to salafiyyah, specifically those who have something of knowledge, shall we put him forward to teach the people immediately?

The shaykh replied "akkidoo [confirm], establish what he is upon of the correct aqeedah and the correct manhaj"

zejd.peqin    -- 29-01-2010 @ 3:46 PM
  Shaikh al Anjaree on the one who returns from bidah

And so the Shaikh went on to mention that regarding the person who repents and returns from his bidah and even after he repents and returns from his bidah he is not pushed to the forefront , he is not pushed to the forefront of our dawah where goes and he is someone who is speaking and giving lectures and things like this. He is not pushed to the forefront of the dawah rather he needs to sit in the back and it needs to be clarified and established that he has truly repented from his bidah. So a person doesnt become hasty and pushes him to the forefront and say that he repented yesterday and today we push him to the forefront, no, the Shaikh said this is not the way of ahlul sunnah and so he says what affirms this meaning is what the ulamaa like Shaikh al Islaam ibn Tamiyyah (raheemahullaah) and others have said regarding the issue of Abul Hasan al Asharee (raheemahullaah) in his book al-ibaanah, how he repented from his  bidah, returned from his opinion but the ulama never pushed him to the forefront. He wrote his book al-ibaabah and he died, he repented and that was it, he was never pushed to the front of this dawah.


Muslima346    -- 30-01-2010 @ 5:09 PM
  Djazakum Allah alf Khair.

zejd.peqin    -- 06-10-2010 @ 4:40 PM
  Statements of the Scholars on Adnaan 'Ar'oor

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