Topic: Is Nutmeg haram?


OumSalamah    -- 12-24-2008 @ 6:39 PM
  Bismillaahi arRahmaani arRaheem,

Assalamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullah,

Could someone please confirm whether NUTMEG (the spice) is indeed Haram for I understand it is of an intoxicating nature when/if taken in large quantities. This was mentioned to me some time ago so I am left in doubt (not using it any longer) but still, wondering if I am not just blind following!

Jazakum Allaahu Khayran

Wa Salaamu Alaykum

PS: Note that this spice is used a lot in some communities so insha'Allah this info could benefit many, and Allaah Knows Best.

Umm Salamah


Moosaa    -- 12-25-2008 @ 12:21 PM
  wa 'alaykumus-salaamu wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.

Nutmeg is widely known to have intoxicating properties.

quote:
...Nutmeg's intoxicating properties have long been known in Europe... it has been a substitute for other substances that for one reason or another were unavailable or unaffordable. Thus prisoners, soldiers, seamen and struggling musicians were among its users... In 1946, before his conversion to Islam, Malcolm X used nutmeg whilst in jail when his supplies of marijuana ran out. In his autobiography he wrote: 'I first got high in Charlestown [prison] on nutmeg. My cellmate was among at least a hundred nutmeg men who, for money or cigarettes, bought from kitchen worker inmates penny matchboxes full of stolen nutmeg. I grabbed a box as though it were a pound of heavy drugs. Stirred into a glass of cold water, a penny matchbox full of nutmeg had the kick of three or four reefers.' When the authorities became aware of such uses of nutmeg it was removed from many prison kitchens.

From: http://www.moodfoods.com/nutmeg/index.html


Shaykh Ahmad ibn Hajr al-Haytamee (d.974), the soofee ash'aree, however an authority on the fiqh math-hab of ash-Shaafi'ee according to the later followers of the math-hab, seems to have the most detailed information on the topic.  Thus, his words and research on the matter are important and our scholars have quoted them.

He (may Allaah forgive him and have Mercy on him) mentioned that nutmeg is haraam according to the four math-habs, due to its intoxicating nature.  He mentioned how the scholars have used nutmeg as a yardstick by which to judge other substances, like qaat, which leads one to understand that it was understood clearly to be an ideal example of an intoxicant.  He further considered its use to be from the major sins, as it is "the use of an intoxicant".  All of this under "Major Sin #170" of his book "Az-Zawaajir" (2/417-422 of the Nazzaar Mustafaa Baaz printing)

His research was quoted by Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem (may Allaah have Mercy on him), and the Permanent Committee further quoted Shaykh Muhammad (quoting al-Haytamee) in their Fataawee (v.22/pp.162-168), signed by Shaykh Ibn Baaz (president), Shaykh 'Abdur-Razzaaq 'Afeefee (vice-president), and others, and dated 4/11/1376.

For the last 11 years I have not seen nutmeg (as an individual spice) for sale in Saudi Arabia, and I used to look for it in the spice section (before knowing its ruling).  People have mentioned that it is not allowed in the country, except as a minor ingredient in another food product.  However, I am not able to confirm that right now.  Based on what is available in the marketplace, it seems to be true.

And Allaah knows best.

Moosaa ibn John Richardson

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Moosaa    -- 12-25-2008 @ 12:39 PM
  BTW - its called "jawzatut-teeb" ( ıııı ııııı ) in Arabic.

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OumSalamah    -- 12-26-2008 @ 2:13 PM
  Assalaamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmaatullah,

Jazak Allaahu Khayr for this comprehensive and clear reply.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullah

Umm Salamah


AbooTasneem    -- 12-26-2008 @ 7:12 PM
  And when some of the brother's wives used to look for in the market places in the Kingdom [of Saudi Arabia] during my stay there they could not find it.

We asked our mashaayikh - Muhammad Amaan al-Jaamee and Umar Fallaatee may Allaah have mercy on them both - and they both informed us that it was an intoxicant. This was in 1987!

Dawud Adib the son of David C.White Sr.


BintHaider    -- 02-05-2010 @ 9:11 PM
  AssalaamoAlaikum

I would like to ask if Mace is Haram? Reason being is that it's very similar taste to Nutmeg apparently and is mostly used as a subsitute.

I think Mace is the Shell of the Nutmeg or has something to do with the Shell. Its not the actual Nutmeg.

JazakaAllah Khairan.


Amin_Abu_Nouhad    -- 02-07-2010 @ 8:34 PM
  as salamu alaykum,

the website HealthyMuslim.com has a very informative article about nutmeg:

http://www.healthymuslim.com/articles/yiits-the-spice-nutmeg-is-haraam-unlawful.cfm

salam alaykum


OumZayd    -- 04-28-2010 @ 11:11 PM
  BismiLaahi Rahmaani Rahiem
Wassallaamu 'alaykum warahmatuLaah

I would like to ask inshaaAllaah, does anyone know where I can find this information in arabic? InshaaAllaah a specefik link, cause I dont understand really arabic. BaarakAllaahu fiekoem

Wassallaamu 'alaykum warahmatuLaahi wabarakatuh!


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