Topic: Weak and Contradictory Narrations that Some People Often Build Fiqh Rulings Upon


Moosaa    -- 06-09-2003 @ 2:41 AM
  In the Name of Allaah, the Most Merciful...

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قال الإمام ابن ماجة: حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ عَنْ سُفْيَانَ عَنْ مَنْصُورٍ عَنْ مُوسَى بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ يَزِيدَ عَنْ مَوْلًى لِعَائِشَةَ عَنْ عَائِشَةَ قَالَتْ:

مَا نَظَرْتُ _ أَوْ مَا رَأَيْت _ُ فَرْجَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَطّ

Imaam Ibn Maajah said: Aboo Bakr ibn Abee Shaybah narrated to us, that Wakee' narrated from Sufyaan, on the authority of Mansoor, on the authority of Moosaa ibn 'Abdillaah ibn Yazeed, on the authority of a freed slave of 'Aa'ishah, that she said:

"I never ever looked at (or I never saw) the private parts of the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam."




The weakness is found in the mubham (unnamed) narrator, the freed slave of 'Aa'ishah.  Al-Albaanee called the hadeeth dha'eef in his checking of the Sunan of Ibn Maajah (#662).

Furthermore, see this fatwaa from Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen about spouses looking at each other naked:

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Moosaa Richardson

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سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك
أشهد أن لا إله إلا أنت
أستغفرك وأتوب إليك

This message was edited by Moosaa on 9-6-03 @ 3:00 AM


abu.naasir    -- 06-09-2003 @ 3:21 PM
  Jazaak Allaahukhiran ahk Moosaa, related to seeing the wifes awarah is the following post, I couldnt find the link so heres the original

From Silsilah Saheehah of Imaam al-Albaane

Narration No. 195, Page 351

Looking at the ?awrah of ones wife

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?When one of you has intercourse with his wife or his slave girl, then let him not look at her private parts. For verily that will cause blindness to be transferred (to the child)!?

Fabricated. Reported by ibn ul-Jawzee in ?al-Mawdoo?aat? (2/271) from the narration of Adee (44/1), from Hishaam bin Khaalid, Baqiyyah narrated to us from ibn Juraij, from Ataa, from ibn Abbaas in marfoo? form.



The Shaikh then discusses the chain.  

The Qaami? ul-Bida?aat then says,

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And a correct perspective indicates the falsity of this narration, for the prohibition of looking is with regards to intercourse and is from Tahreem al-Wassail (i.e. something being impermissible due to what it leads to), so when Allaah has permitted for the husband to have sexual intercourse with his wife, is it sensible to think that He would forbid the husband from looking at her private parts?

And this point is supported by the hadeeth of Aishah who said, ?The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahualaihi wasallam) and I used to perform ghusl together from one pot, so he used to be quicker than me, such that I would say, ?Leave some for me! Leave some for me!? ? Reported by the two Shaikhs.

So that which is apparent from the hadeeth is the permissibility of looking and this is supported by a narration from ibn Hibbaan from Sulaymaan bin Musaa that he was asked about a man looking at the private parts of his wife. So he said, ?I asked Ataa and he said, ?I asked Aishah?  and she mentioned this hadeeth, in meaning.?

Al-Haafidh said in ?al-Fath? (1/290)

?And it is text for the permissibility for a man to look at the awrah of his wife and vice versa.?

And when this is clear, then there is no difference between looking during ghusl or intercourse. So the falsity of this narration is established!
  


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Narration No. 196, Page 354

?When one of you has intercourse then let him not look at the private parts For verily that will cause blindness to be transferred (to the child), and do not speak excessively, for that will cause muteness to be transferred (to the child)?

Fabricated. Reported by ibn ul-Jawzee in ?al-Mawdoo?aat? (2/271).


Narration No. 197, Page 355

?Do not speak excessively when you have intercourse with your wives, for verily that causes muteness and a stammer (in the child).?

Daeef Jidan (very weak). Reported by ibn Asaakir (5/700).



Abul Irbaad
Abid Zargar

This message was edited by abu.naasir on 9-6-03 @ 3:32 PM


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